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I don't believe transit pax are included, only those dis/embarking through the terminal. So it should just be the 2 LAX originating pax who disembarked at EDI recorded, which they were, and nothing added to DOH figures.
Out of interest, what CAA resource is it you are using to display total rotations on a route for the month?
Wouldn't say 84% is the end of the world, UA only loaded the B764 onto the route for August at the end of May, so not very much time at all to fill the additional capacity. That said, the monthly average doesn't tell the whole story, as from what I saw, generally it's the early/mid week flights that were running a bit lighter on B75W, and the B764 was justified on the busier weekend runs.
Out of interest, what CAA resource is it you are using to display total rotations on a route for the month?
Wouldn't say 84% is the end of the world, UA only loaded the B764 onto the route for August at the end of May, so not very much time at all to fill the additional capacity. That said, the monthly average doesn't tell the whole story, as from what I saw, generally it's the early/mid week flights that were running a bit lighter on B75W, and the B764 was justified on the busier weekend runs.
If that link doesn't work (it doesn't look quite right) just copy and paste into your browser. It should open up in the year page and click on the one you want to display the individual months. Note I don't cross check many of these with FR24 but I have not found any errors.
I am using an Apple Mac and neither the PDF or CSV option open perfectly, the former is probably something to with my settings as only a tenth of the page is displayed but it allows me to scroll down to view all and the CSV has to be copied and pasted into numbers or sheets and tidied up but I am using Safari.
https://www.caa.co.uk/data-and-analy...ty-statistics/
Im sure there will be a definitive answer to transits somewhere but like you I was under the impression they only counted if they got off but I am not so sure now with my local (BHX) seemingly showing diverted pax in the individual routes where I am sure some were fuel n go but I can't be sure.
Quoting planespotters.net again the new United A21N is showing 20/180 config which I assume is "domestic" and would I be correct in thinking that there isn't any imminent plans to send them across the Atlantic.
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Yeah gotta say that’s a good one as folks were adamant that JetBlue would end up at GLA. I think this just reinforces that EDI is the much stronger market or proposition these days.
Great news!
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Report suggests the std A321Neo will be used as opposed to the LR version.
I am sure I read something with regards to these frames types when rostered in for the JetBlue Gatwick routes.
Apart from less Mint seats and more Y class; I also don’t believe the A321Neo can serve hot food. Not sure if any other differences. Can anyone confirm or clarify?
On a positive I very recently flew JetBlue internal in the US and it was a very good Economy offering.
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Good news indeed unless it leads to Delta re-evaluating there JFK route offering.
Report suggests the std A321Neo will be used as opposed to the LR version.
I am sure I read something with regards to these frames types when rostered in for the JetBlue Gatwick routes.
Apart from less Mint seats and more Y class; I also don’t believe the A321Neo can serve hot food. Not sure if any other differences. Can anyone confirm or clarify?
On a positive I very recently flew JetBlue internal in the US and it was a very good Economy offering.
Report suggests the std A321Neo will be used as opposed to the LR version.
I am sure I read something with regards to these frames types when rostered in for the JetBlue Gatwick routes.
Apart from less Mint seats and more Y class; I also don’t believe the A321Neo can serve hot food. Not sure if any other differences. Can anyone confirm or clarify?
On a positive I very recently flew JetBlue internal in the US and it was a very good Economy offering.
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For examplae.only an extra £70 quid to connect to MiA from LGW,
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Absolutely, take on board what you’re saying. Don’t disagree either. The reported launch by Jetblue is direct competition for Delta. JFK is a hub for both airlines. Would be interesting to find out the number of transfer pax currently using Delta via JFK. It surely wouldn’t be a surprise to see DL react in some way? They have scaled back operations to/from EDI in W23. Will we see a full year-round service from them in 2024? Will the lack of lounge access for premium pax work against JetBlue? All very interesting.
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EDI confirming the news and stating the service runs from May to September.
EDI confirming the news and stating the service runs from May to September.
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https://x.com/edi_airport/status/171...s3HZjZirllAO3Q
EDI confirming the news and stating the service runs from May to September.
EDI confirming the news and stating the service runs from May to September.
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I wonder if UA and DL will respond to this competition.
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https://x.com/edi_airport/status/171...s3HZjZirllAO3Q
EDI confirming the news and stating the service runs from May to September.
EDI confirming the news and stating the service runs from May to September.
Time will tell if it holds up and has the potential to go year round.
Having just been through there very busy JFK terminal they sure do have a huge potential in terms of connections.
Looks a good onboard product compared to United and Delta.
Just hope this does not come at the expense of loosing routes with them.
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JetBlue is an excellent product. Only squeeze I could see potentially at EDI is Virgin to Orlando as it's a bit of a different clientele to the mainline stuff as otherwise the numbers hold up well.
They do have a nice modern product, a very "New York" attitude as you'd expect. I suspect the chances of American returning are even lower now. That said, jetBlue will be showcasing the future of Delta/United at EDI with the A321NX.
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When JetBlue flights were put on sale earlier today, I looked at round trip EDI-JFK leaving Saturday 1st June returning Saturday 8th June 2024. Economy with checked bag included. £513.80 was the price. As of a few minutes ago, price has gone up to £928.61. Delta on same dates a whopping £1,588. United into Newark - £862. Some wild variation of prices.
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DL currently have no intention to fly narrow bodies transatlantic any time soon. They don't even have LR/XLR on order and the Neos are to replace B752s domestically. Their future direction appears to be A339/A350. Where that leaves EDI as a destination once the B763's time is up remains to be seen.
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I don't think AA can be ruled out given EDI's strength in the transatlantic market these days. Time will tell.
DL currently have no intention to fly narrow bodies transatlantic any time soon. They don't even have LR/XLR on order and the Neos are to replace B752s domestically. Their future direction appears to be A339/A350. Where that leaves EDI as a destination once the B763's time is up remains to be seen.
DL currently have no intention to fly narrow bodies transatlantic any time soon. They don't even have LR/XLR on order and the Neos are to replace B752s domestically. Their future direction appears to be A339/A350. Where that leaves EDI as a destination once the B763's time is up remains to be seen.
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Unfortunately it’s not the case it’s just how Ryanair manipulate figures
We all see it as 2 flights a week but Ryanair say it’s 4 because they include the out and inbound services as 2 flights
We all see it as 2 flights a week but Ryanair say it’s 4 because they include the out and inbound services as 2 flights