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[Planeraz]

KLM W23 & S24 - subject to change as always.

Reducing from 4 to 3 x daily from 10th January to 29th February 2024. Increasing to 4 x daily from 1st March then 5 x daily from 6th July.

[Asturias56]

as people start to travel to see the bulb fields no doubt.................

The Netherlands in Jan/Feb is not a pleasant spot!

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by Asturias56

as people start to travel to see the bulb fields no doubt.................

The Netherlands in Jan/Feb is not a pleasant spot!

We were in Zuid Limburg last February, weather was lovely!

[inOban]

How many PAX use KLM to fly to AMS rather than f,ying longhaul via AMS?
I had assumed that Easyjet had the short-haul business.

[Asturias56]

Originally Posted by ATNotts

We were in Zuid Limburg last February, weather was lovely!

yes well - and I've looked like Captain Scott in his last moments after walking less than a km from a restaurant back to my hotel in C Amsterdam

[GeorgeNTravels]

Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels

Frequencies based on week commencing 8 JUL 24. Some routes currently set to commence in June have flights loaded for the last week in March. Due to terminal capacity restrictions in APRIL and MAY that is the likely reason for some reductions and cuts in those months. ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE

ALC - 7 weekly
BCN - 10 weekly
BRI - 2 weekly
BFS - 13 weekly
BER - 8 weekly
BZR - 2 weekly (currently set to commence in JUNE)
BLL - 3 weekly in APRIL and MAY rise to 4 weekly in JUNE
BLQ - 3 weekly
BOD - 4 weekly
BOH - 4 weekly
BTS - 2 weekly
CRL - 9 weekly
OTP - 2 weekly
BUD - 6 weekly APRIL and MAY, rise to 7 weekly in JUNE
CCF - NOT CURRENTLY LOADED
CPH - 9 weekly
CFU - 1 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
ORK - 10 weekly
DUB - 32 weekly
NRN - 6 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 7 weekly in JUNE
EIN - 2 weekly
FAO - 8 weekly
FUE - 2 weekly
GDN - 5 weekly
LPA - 3 weekly
GOT - 2 weekly
HAM - 5 weekly
IBZ - 2 weekly
KUN - 2 weekly
NOC - 3 weekly
KRK - 6 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 7 weekly in JUNE
ACE - 4 weekly
LIS - 3 weekly
STN - 17 weekly
MAD - 5 weekly
AGP - 6 weekly
MLA - 2 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 3 weekly in JUNE
RAK - 2 weekly
MRS - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
BGY - 6 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 7 weekly in JUNE
NTE - 2 weekly
NAP - 3 weekly
NQY - 2 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
FNI - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
PMO - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
PMI - 8 weekly
BVA - 4 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 5 weekly in JUNE
PSA - 4 weekly
PIS - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
OPO - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
POZ - 3 weekly
PRG - 5 weekly
RHO - 2 weekly
RIX - 4 weekly
CIA - 7 weekly
SDR - 2 weekly
SCQ - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
SVQ - 3 weekly
SNN - 2 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 3 weekly in JUNE
SOF - 3 weekly
TFS - 6 weekly
TIA - 3 weekly
TLS - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
TRN - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
VLC - 2 weekly
VCE - 3 weekly
VIE - 3 weekly
WMI - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED (they hold slots for EDI-WAW this winter so may transfer)
WRO - 2 weekly
ZAD - 2 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)

BRI - Now loaded 2x week for APRIL AND MAY
BLL - 3 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rise to 4 weekly in JUNE
BLQ - Loaded for full season at same frequency
BOD - Loaded for full season at same frequency
BTS - Loaded for full season at same frequency
OTP - Loaded for full season NOW 2 weekly, WAS 4 weekly
BUD - 6 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rises to 7 weekly in JUNE
CPH - Loaded for full season at same frequency
NRN - 6 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rises to 7 weekly in JUNE
EIN - Loaded for full season at same frequency
GDN - Loaded for full season at same frequency
GOT - Loaded for full season at same frequency
HAM - Loaded for full season at same frequency
KRK - 6 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 7 weekly in JUNE
LIS - Loaded for full season at same frequency
MAD - Loaded for full season at same frequency
AGP - Loaded for full season at same frequency
MLA - 2 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 3 weekly in JUNE
BGY - 6 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 7 weekly in JUNE
NTE - Loaded for full season at same frequency
NAP - Loaded for full season at same frequency
BVA - 4 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 5 weekly in JUNE
PSA - Loaded for full season at same frequency
POZ - Loaded for full season at same frequency
PRG - Loaded for full season at same frequency
RHO - Loaded for full season at same frequency
RIX - Loaded for full season at same frequency
SDR - Loaded for full season at same frequency
SVQ - Loaded for full season at same frequency
SNN - 2 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 3 weekly in JUNE
SOF - Loaded for full season at same frequency
VLC - Loaded for full season at same frequency
VCE - Loaded for full season at same frequency
VIE - Loaded for full season at same frequency
WRO - Loaded for full season at same frequency

CCF, MRS, FNI, PMO, PIS, OPO, SCQ, TLS, TRN & WMI all currently not available for booking - there is still a possibility of further changes, especially to WMI as noted in my original post.

[Planeraz]

Qatar

Another 773 scheduled to operate tomorrows morning service. A 773 operated this afternoons service. Presumably it is to mop up remaining pax from Sunday cancelled 788 that went tech.

[Planeraz]

EDI

Latest management meeting and planned expenditure.

key points:-

Terminal & facilities expansion.

Latest committed expenditure shows approx £58m in next phase. A slight change in information detailed in previous reports. The current investment phase or plan is for the next 5 years with an overall phased plan running to 2028. The current expenditure is primarily for the creation of gate rooms, upgraded immigration access/ hall and expanded check-in area.

Runway Rehab

Major runway rehab. Due for completion January 2027.

US Pre-Clearance

End date or proposed start date extended to January 2026. Management continue to believe this would unleash further growth and attract new routes.

Route Development

Specific mention of JetBlue, which is already in the public domain.
Finnair plan to expand again and operate up to 7 weekly or daily in S24.
Iberia plan to run whole summer season and increase frequency. Service expected to be operated by Iberia main line according to reports.
Edelweiss increasing W23 capacity.
Confirmation of Qatar capacity increase.
United - confirmation of their intention to again run double daily to EWR in S24 following a successful S23 season.
Virgin - confirmation of their intention to resume services earlier in 2024.

September 2023 Pax Number

1,388,054

Lots of other projects ongoing according to minutes. Too many to list.

[VickersVicount]

wonder why SAS ditching Oslo?

[tictack67]

Originally Posted by VickersVicount

wonder why SAS ditching Oslo?

Perhaps it's not a.case of #Edinburhairportbad this time.
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Is there a source for this? We've seen seanm1997 on twitter saying that it's not in the booking engine, though we know not to read to much into flight searches.

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​​​​​​Besides SAS is in financial troubles (again) and on 4th Oct 95% of the share price was lost, 250,000 investors wiped out including the Swedish Govt, Norwegian Govt having previously disposed of it's shares leaving Denmark as the only one of the original founders.

Not sure if the AF/KL will save them (20% stake) not sure what skyteam can do for them that the Star Alliance couldn't

Norwegian continue daily of course, as well as SK to ARN and CPH S24

https://www.ft.com/content/35337b8b-...3-6b3af6683a4d

[Planeraz]

Jetblue

JetBlue have not received any S24 slots at AMS. Could this open the door for a service to Boston from EDI?

[willy wombat]

More likely to open a court case against the Dutch Government

[GeorgeNTravels]

I noticed on the S23 and S24 capacity declarations that despite the work being done to security capacity remains the same at 3,350 during the day with a ramp up of numbers in the morning and a decline in the evening.

Is that likely just to be for the 1st season while the equipment settles and staff/pax get used to it, or are they not actually going to save that much time?

[Planeraz]

Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels

I noticed on the S23 and S24 capacity declarations that despite the work being done to security capacity remains the same at 3,350 during the day with a ramp up of numbers in the morning and a decline in the evening.

Is that likely just to be for the 1st season while the equipment settles and staff/pax get used to it, or are they not actually going to save that much time?

In relation to potential disruption due to works etc, I wonder how the creation of gate rooms will impact the airport? Which gates will have gate rooms? I assume the gates capable of taking wide bodies will see the boxed area prior to boarding. Not much room to play with, particularly at gates 1 to 6.

[Planeraz]

The initial ACL report lists a couple of interesting potential additions and/or resumptions. Could be more good news for EDI.

[Sk1schoolsam]

Originally Posted by Planeraz

The initial ACL report lists a couple of interesting potential additions and/or resumptions. Could be more good news for EDI.

Such as…..?

[CabinCrewe]

Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam

Such as…..?

YHZ YYZ and RUH

[billyg]

Originally Posted by CabinCrewe

YHZ YYZ and RUH

NCL and GLA also in the running for RUH!

[Sotonsean]

Originally Posted by billyg

NCL and GLA also in the running for RUH!

NCL with Newcastle FC and the Saudi connection, but that doesn't necessarily mean a direct flight from Saudi Arabia.

GLA would obviously lose to EDI for obvious reasons if there is any truth in this unsubstantiated rumour.

But if several comments made elsewhere online are true, it could well be EDI.

[Flightrider]

Looking at the EDI S24 slot data, I can't see anything filed for Riyadh, nor any slots filed by either Riyadh Air or Saudia which might or might not be Riyadh. Same goes for NCL and GLA, by the way. Not sure where this rumour has started from, but I'm not seeing anything that shouts "Riyadh" here.