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Old 5th Nov 2023, 20:07
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
YHZ YYZ and RUH
Interesting (good that Calgary is returning after a successful NS23)
When will the report be published and publicly available?
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Rumours about Saudia starting BHX-JED were circling a long while before they started. I for one was sceptical about these rumours but it happened and the service is performing very well although I have no idea how much traffic is for Saudi itself or for onward connections. And cargo is a factor too

Saudi Arabia has huge ambition to become a major tourist destination on the global stage and is stopping at nothing to do so. So I'd be highly surprised if Saudia don't add another UK route or if Riyadh Air join the party. With Saudia now serving LGW, LHR, BHX and MAN it makes sense their next foray into the UK market will be Scotland and I'd put my money on EDI.

​​Having said that, Saudia did put ACL slot applications in for BHX so if as stated there aren't any in for EDI, then perhaps it's not happening - for now.

I personally doubt that NCL will see a service to Saudi Arabia ahead of EDI just because Saudia sponsor NUFC.
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Old 5th Nov 2023, 20:20
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Air Transat to Toronto I would guess? 🇨🇦
Halifax was an Air Canada route out of PIK/GLA but not for decades.
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VY EDI-BCN still not showing as available for Summer 2024 as of yet! Is it showing in the slot report for the summer?
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Old 6th Nov 2023, 08:09
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Air Transat to Toronto I would guess? 🇨🇦
Halifax was an Air Canada route out of PIK/GLA but not for decades.
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Westjet it would appear, as per tweet below. ​​They operated Halifax-GLA for a few years prior to COVID. Will be interesting to see if, if it happens, it's in addition to or instead of Calgary.


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Old 6th Nov 2023, 17:55
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Delta S24

Delta extending operating season for Atlanta route in S24. Expected to operate similar schedule to JFK and Boston. All routes currently available to book up to and including 2nd October 2024.
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Old 6th Nov 2023, 20:58
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
Delta S24

Delta extending operating season for Atlanta route in S24. Expected to operate similar schedule to JFK and Boston. All routes currently available to book up to and including 2nd October 2024.
Not surprised by that at all. It appeared to be a huge success this year.
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Old 7th Nov 2023, 11:26
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Originally Posted by A350Saltire
Not surprised by that at all. It appeared to be a huge success this year.
Are they starting earlier or just extending the season. JFK restarts April?
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Old 7th Nov 2023, 11:57
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam
Are they starting earlier or just extending the season. JFK restarts April?
First rotation is 24th May 2024 from ATL. Will they bring forward? Highly possible.
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depends on US school holidays

as Wiki says:- " In the United States, depending on the region, summer break is approximately two to three months, with students typically finishing the school year in late-May or early-June and starting the new year in mid-late August or early-September."
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Old 11th Nov 2023, 17:44
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Originally Posted by A350Saltire
Not surprised by that at all. It appeared to be a huge success this year.
Now that the September CAA stats are out the final average load factor for ATL is confirmed at 93.09%.

For those wondering this has been calculated by adding up all the CAA stats for the route from May through September to get 43,566 pax and then dividing it by the seats available figure from ACL Start of Season Report which was 46,800.
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Old 14th Nov 2023, 20:10
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No formal announcement yet, but Westjet's website is showing daily YYZ (dropping to 4pw in Sept), 3x weekly YHZ peak summer only, plus YYC increasing to 4x weekly.

https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/flights/direct-flights
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Originally Posted by GoEDI
No formal announcement yet, but Westjet's website is showing daily YYZ (dropping to 4pw in Sept), 3x weekly YHZ peak summer only, plus YYC increasing to 4x weekly.

https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/flights/direct-flights
That is an impressive expansion tbf.
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Old 14th Nov 2023, 20:49
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Originally Posted by A350Saltire
That is an impressive expansion tbf.
Excellent news. Look forward to the official confirmation. It is a substantial expansion and quite a u-turn from Westjet. A very welcome change of strategy. Direct, daily competition with AC on the Toronto route. Will they use a 78M again or go with a 789?

New route to Halifax, presumably on a 78M. A certain Glasgow forum will be livid. How dare EDI pinch our former route 😂.

Frequency increase for Calgary also.
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Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels
BRI - Now loaded 2x week for APRIL AND MAY
BLL - 3 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rise to 4 weekly in JUNE
BLQ - Loaded for full season at same frequency
BOD - Loaded for full season at same frequency
BTS - Loaded for full season at same frequency
OTP - Loaded for full season NOW 2 weekly, WAS 4 weekly
BUD - 6 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rises to 7 weekly in JUNE
CPH - Loaded for full season at same frequency
NRN - 6 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rises to 7 weekly in JUNE
EIN - Loaded for full season at same frequency
GDN - Loaded for full season at same frequency
GOT - Loaded for full season at same frequency
HAM - Loaded for full season at same frequency
KRK - 6 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 7 weekly in JUNE
LIS - Loaded for full season at same frequency
MAD - Loaded for full season at same frequency
AGP - Loaded for full season at same frequency
MLA - 2 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 3 weekly in JUNE
BGY - 6 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 7 weekly in JUNE
NTE - Loaded for full season at same frequency
NAP - Loaded for full season at same frequency
BVA - 4 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 5 weekly in JUNE
PSA - Loaded for full season at same frequency
POZ - Loaded for full season at same frequency
PRG - Loaded for full season at same frequency
RHO - Loaded for full season at same frequency
RIX - Loaded for full season at same frequency
SDR - Loaded for full season at same frequency
SVQ - Loaded for full season at same frequency
SNN - 2 weekly in APRIL and MAY, rising to 3 weekly in JUNE
SOF - Loaded for full season at same frequency
VLC - Loaded for full season at same frequency
VCE - Loaded for full season at same frequency
VIE - Loaded for full season at same frequency
WRO - Loaded for full season at same frequency

CCF, MRS, FNI, PMO, PIS, OPO, SCQ, TLS, TRN & WMI all currently not available for booking - there is still a possibility of further changes, especially to WMI as noted in my original post.
Further to this post SeanM1997 confirmed on X that CCF, FNI, PIS, SCQ & TRN are removed.

MRS loaded at 2 weekly (will be 4, just 2 are showing as sold out currently)

OPO and TLS not currently loaded, however, Ryanair is still waiting to confirm 10% of it's summer 2024 schedules as they try to grip with ever changing MAX delays.
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Old 14th Nov 2023, 21:30
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
Excellent news. Look forward to the official confirmation. It is a substantial expansion and quite a u-turn from Westjet. A very welcome change of strategy. Direct, daily competition with AC on the Toronto route. Will they use a 78M again or go with a 789?

New route to Halifax, presumably on a 78M. A certain Glasgow forum will be livid. How dare EDI pinch our former route 😂.

Frequency increase for Calgary also.
It's a very impressive increase - especially given that Edinburgh's only Canadaian route was a 4(?) Weekly summer only Air Canada Rouge service not that long ago.
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Another number year for TATL capacity from Edinburgh. Makes me wonder how sustainable it is but let's hope it keeps up. Wonder as well where the extra rotations from YYC are coming from given WestJet don't have an extra 789 - fairly sure it was shared with Barcelona IIRC.

That Glasgow forum is entertaining - and this is coming from someone who lives out west and is disappointed at the cuts. I quite liked the reply saying that a poster would no longer have an interest in any airline which moves east from Glasgow 😅
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Originally Posted by ld0595
It's a very impressive increase - especially given that Edinburgh's only Canadaian route was a 4(?) Weekly summer only Air Canada Rouge service not that long ago.
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Another number year for TATL capacity from Edinburgh. Makes me wonder how sustainable it is but let's hope it keeps up. Wonder as well where the extra rotations from YYC are coming from given WestJet don't have an extra 789 - fairly sure it was shared with Barcelona IIRC.

That Glasgow forum is entertaining - and this is coming from someone who lives out west and is disappointed at the cuts. I quite liked the reply saying that a poster would no longer have an interest in any airline which moves east from Glasgow 😅
Has it not come from the 789 that served YYC to LGW? I believe that has been cut.
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Old 14th Nov 2023, 21:45
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[QUOTE=ld0595;11539273]It's a very impressive increase - especially given that Edinburgh's only Canadaian route was a 4(?) Weekly summer only Air Canada Rouge service not that long ago.
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Another number year for TATL capacity from Edinburgh. Makes me wonder how sustainable it is but let's hope it keeps up. Wonder as well where the extra rotations from YYC are coming from given WestJet don't have an extra 789 - fairly sure it was shared with Barcelona IIRC.

I’m pretty sure I read recently that Westjet have or is about to receive additional 789’s. They’ll certainly require them as they appear to be increasing Calgary to Tokyo and Rome to daily in S24.

Quite a challenge to AC in S24, even if WS operate YYZ on a 78M.
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Old 14th Nov 2023, 22:12
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The last 2 B789s were painted but NTU.
YYC-LGW being dropped frees up one B789.
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Makes sense - hasn't realised Gatwick had been dropped. Cheers!
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