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[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by jensdad

The millions of hard working folks who like bucket and spade hols, and who keep half the people on this forum in gainful employment, certainly do!

These comments say it all really, needs to be a bit more balance

I do chuckle at reports desperate enough to quote Jet2 and TUI increases ex Glasgow. Who cares really they are bucket and spade ops. EDI is head over heals better than GLA

Alas, as usual, we just have the typical Scottish bickering. 🫣

[Breathe]

Indeed. The airport fanboism posts are extremely cringing to read.

[highwideandugly]

So when the airport has to close for…1 maybe 2 weeks while a complete resurfacing of the runway occurs..which it will..what happens to all the traffic….asking for a friend😀 ?

[habs_fan]

Originally Posted by highwideandugly

So when the airport has to close for…1 maybe 2 weeks while a complete resurfacing of the runway occurs..which it will..what happens to all the traffic….asking for a friend😀 ?

mostly likely will be nightly runway closures from 00:30-06:00

[QEC]

Originally Posted by highwideandugly

So when the airport has to close for…1 maybe 2 weeks while a complete resurfacing of the runway occurs..which it will..what happens to all the traffic….asking for a friend😀 ?

Was the reason they (was it still BAA?) allegedly wouldn't allow the EARL to proceed was due actual underlying (literally) runway issues with uncharted mineworkings beneath the runways?

[NotanAVGeek]

It’s becoming a shambles now, I think 12 flights diverted today, a few yesterday also. 4 Jet2 diverted, that’s over 50% of their based aircraft.

Safety comes first, and always should. But the reputation and integrity of the Airport is getting damaged almost on a daily basis.

Qatar and Air Canada almost had to hold for an hour this morning on stands.

Any idea how long it would take for a full runway resurface? I’m sure I heard it’s due by 2025 latest.

[QEC]

Originally Posted by NotanAVGeek

It’s becoming a shambles now, I think 12 flights diverted today, a few yesterday also. 4 Jet2 diverted, that’s over 50% of their based aircraft.

Safety comes first, and always should. But the reputation and integrity of the Airport is getting damaged almost on a daily basis.

Qatar and Air Canada almost had to hold for an hour this morning on stands.

Any idea how long it would take for a full runway resurface? I’m sure I heard it’s due by 2025 latest.

Lots of missed connections I'd Imagine and the obvious knock on effects.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by nivsy

There is, I believe plenty of airports in Europe and further afield that have the same terminal capacity and runway/stand issues as at EDI. I do chuckle at reports desperate enough to quote Jet2 and TUI increases ex Glasgow. Who cares really they are bucket and spade ops. EDI is head over heals better than GLA (and I am originally from Glasgow and fondly remember GLA in the mid nineties being a great airport) . The two are of course are far to close to each other and the central belt has missed the opportunity of having an airport suitable for both. It would be an airport for Scotland serving Scotland. Alas, as usual, we just have the typical Scottish bickering. 🫣

I usually enjoy your posts but this has got me scrathing my head somewhat. If you fondly remember GLA in the mid 90s you weren't flying out of it. They were forced to handle heavies on a pier built for One Elevens (does this sound familiar at all?). Trying to board three wide bodies from what is now the easyJet gates was a nightmare! Check in was building site and there were canvas tunnels taking you through parts of the old/new terminal. OK there was some good traffic but GLA 1990-1996 was woefully unprepared for what it was handling. That was remedied by spending a lot of money on what was a very nice, fit for 21st century pier with 7 air bridges and capable of ultimately taking the A380. There is no such equivalent plan for EDI to make the equivalent leap in passenger experieince. It's got some decent traffic but customer experience is going to be similar to this summer for the forseeable future unless they really want to spend some serious money. GLA had it easier with the backing of an airport group with the ability to spend money strategically (BAA) and political clout supporting growth in aviation. EDI has neither alas. My best analogy is LHR T1, building add ons until the original idea vanishes beneath ugly new build parts and then ram a pint into a half pint pot every day for years.

....NOT a criticism of either airport BTW!

[tartan 201]

Originally Posted by NotanAVGeek

Any idea how long it would take for a full runway resurface? I’m sure I heard it’s due by 2025 latest.

Completion scheduled for January 2026 (source Table 2.1)

[tictack67]

Originally Posted by Mrlightgrey

What is the point your trying to make? We've got all these routes but our infrastructure can't cope!
also Marseille is served from Prestwick so maybe research before making claims

The original poster accepted my point which is all I care about, as do I about your point about Marseille.

Maybe read the whole thread before coming on and missing said point, especially if you are *new*, a rejoiner, or a new multi-personality poster to pprune

[Planeraz]

BA W23

BA have further revised W23 schedules. EDI sees another increase which I believe takes them above 2019 pre covid levels. Glasgow also sees an increase. Aberdeen takes a hit downwards.

Big caveat with BA. They continue to cancel flights regularly. What they plan to operate and what actually operates is another matter.



https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230918-banw23lhreu

[4eyed anorak]

July C.A.A. statistics are now available.

Regards 4ea

[Planeraz]

Originally Posted by 4eyed anorak

July C.A.A. statistics are now available.

Regards 4ea

I will try and do some approx LF’s.

Noticeable quick glance for certain routes.

QR - Doha Just under 31,000. Considerably more than predicted.
UA - Newark Just under 18,000
Big increase in pax number for Finnair. Atlanta and Boston also performed very strongly for Delta. Westjet and Air Canada also did well.

[Planeraz]

July 2023

Total pax - 1,528,829
This total exceeds July 2019 total of 1,506,580. EDI now back to operating and surpassing pre pandemic numbers.

Some approx LF’s on selected routes. United had some cancellations from EWR and IAD in July. Air Canada also had two cancellations.
Delta - ATL pax number exceeds published capacity by aircraft type. I assume some numbers were added from previous month.
Air Canada pax numbers compared to July 2022 down slightly. The Westjet factor/competition being the most likely reason.
Hainan operating at around 75%. Given the short lead in time for the service resuming, will they be happy?

QR - Doha 30,838 or 99%
TK - Istanbul 10,921 or 97%
WS - Calgary 8,242 or 96%
AC - Toronto 14,576 or 94%
DL - Atlanta 13,330 or 99%
DL - Boston 12,345 or 96%
DL - JFK 12,382 or 96%
VS - Orlando 5,953 or 90%
HU - Beijing 3,105 or 75%
UA - Newark 17,991 or 91%
UA - Chicago 10,333 or 96%
UA - Washington 10,743 or 97%

[SWBKCB]

Is it just me, or is the format of CAA airport stats CSV files cocked up again?

[CabinCrewe]

Perhaps, as slightly different loads posted ‘elsewhere’
Good to have things high summer fattened up for the big sell off about to be formally launched in November. Will be a good return for GIP.
Who’ll have the money to go for it and will they have anything left over to invest/expand.
Lets hope the Scottish Government don’t get any ideas..

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

AGS would be a good fit, who's with me? 😊

[CabinCrewe]

Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot

AGS would be a good fit, who's with me? 😊

Joking aside, they couldn’t even muster anything credible for the empty dinosaur that is PIK never mind investing in crumbling runways and hugely seasonal peak overcrowding if EDI.
Will be some sort of investment conglomeration which will further plump and then sell on.

[inOban]

If anyone wants to buy a UK airport it's likely to be Birmingham because the City is going to have to sell their share.

[SWBKCB]

The city council own 18.68% of Birmingham airport