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Old 22nd Nov 2023, 14:19
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Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels
How many weekly flights did Qatar have in 2019?



I know at least 1 airline was looking at plans to launch EDI flights and shelved them due to market uncertainty, amongst other issues specific to EDI.

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QR operated up to 10 x weekly in 2019.

What other “specific” issues exist at EDI? Are the issues solely or unique to EDI?
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Old 22nd Nov 2023, 14:27
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
What other “specific” issues exist at EDI? Are the issues solely or unique to EDI?
I think it would likely be stand availability at times they'd want to operate. I think we all know that's a fair challenge given the recent chaos. Delays can really knock on and cost money.
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Old 22nd Nov 2023, 14:58
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Originally Posted by A350Saltire
I’m not sure what I think about EK returning tbh. Part of me wants to see QR continue to go from strength to strength. DOH is a much better airport to transit through than DXB.

Having said that the new Terminal A at AUH looks great too so perhaps EY returning at some point given they want to grow again would be better for EDI.
I don’t disagree about transiting, however I come from a personal perspective of needing to work in Dubai itself, it would be great to have the direct flight back.😉
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Old 22nd Nov 2023, 15:32
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Originally Posted by Planeraz
QR operated up to 10 x weekly in 2019.

What other “specific” issues exist at EDI? Are the issues solely or unique to EDI?
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I think it would likely be stand availability at times they'd want to operate. I think we all know that's a fair challenge given the recent chaos. Delays can really knock on and cost money.
This was the biggest one mentioned as they were looking to operate at one of the busiest periods of the day. The other issue mentioned was alternative direct options from EDI.

They haven't ruled out any service to EDI, and as I say it is still "under consideration"

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Old 22nd Nov 2023, 15:49
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Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels

Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
I think it would likely be stand availability at times they'd want to operate. I think we all know that's a fair challenge given the recent chaos. Delays can really knock on and cost money.
This was the biggest one mentioned as they were looking to operate at one of the busiest periods of the day. The other issue mentioned was alternative direct options from EDI.

They haven't ruled out any service to EDI, and as I say it is still "under consideration"
One can understand why lack of stand availability would be an issue for Icelandair (presuming that's the airline in question). Their GLA service is scheduled to be on the ground there from 0955 to 1245 to fit in with the arrival and departure banks at KEF and occupying a stand for almost three hours at that time of day in the summer at EDI would exacerbate the issues experienced this summer.
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Old 22nd Nov 2023, 16:39
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Originally Posted by tartan 201
One can understand why lack of stand availability would be an issue for Icelandair (presuming that's the airline in question). Their GLA service is scheduled to be on the ground there from 0955 to 1245 to fit in with the arrival and departure banks at KEF and occupying a stand for almost three hours at that time of day in the summer at EDI would exacerbate the issues experienced this summer.
….I guess similar to how Hainan did this summer with Beijing flight twice a week (which looks like it may not be back for this S24)
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Old 22nd Nov 2023, 17:53
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Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam
….I guess similar to how Hainan did this summer with Beijing flight twice a week (which looks like it may not be back for this S24)
That was a pain point in stand blocking. EDI's lack of remote parking meant no ability to push off stand for a few hours, maybe even cater on a remote while one of the US flights used the gate before towing back on for the departure.There's pretty much no contingency in summer now, so you have long haulers being late back to their base due to holding on taxiways in Scotland for a gate. Now for the margins of a LHR/FRA/CDG that's unavoidable, for Scotland, there's probably a few similar airports competing for the aircraft that can get it home on time. That's my worry.
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Old 26th Nov 2023, 15:15
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Originally Posted by NorthSouth
Well maybe. But AC have also reacted by just cancelling Toronto flights. We were booked for early April and now told only option is via Frankfurt.

Air Canada Re-start has been Pushed back to May from March due Aircraft availability shortage.
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Old 26th Nov 2023, 16:51
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Originally Posted by habs_fan
Air Canada Re-start has been Pushed back to May from March due Aircraft availability shortage.
Maybe they could plan known aircraft shortage cover like they did at MAN with the Omni 762?
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Old 26th Nov 2023, 18:03
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
Maybe they could plan known aircraft shortage cover like they did at MAN with the Omni 762?
Dont think AC will be Using Omni again was not a good experience for the Airline and passengers 🙈

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Old 27th Nov 2023, 12:37
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It's great to see Edinburgh doing so well, as it's such a popular tourist and business connection, from other parts of the world .
Wasn't there a plan to expand the airport, including a second runway and new stands , before the pandemic ?.
When foreign airlines fly to Scotland, it's Edinburgh that most people know .
So you'd think they would make it a priory to be able to accommodate new business opportunities.
Plus the talk of a rail link as well , which would still be very useful , despite the tram link.
It's Scotland's capital , and the airport infrastructure and terminal space should reflect this .
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Old 27th Nov 2023, 13:05
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I don't think the old Masterplan 2040 envisioned two runways - the 2016 ish plan reckoned a new runway might be needed in 2050

There are a lot of people who will die in the ditch to stop any expansion that affects them or their house prices................ - they're also voters
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Old 27th Nov 2023, 18:39
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Is EDI about to secure a big African carrier? With an established star alliance presence already, principally with United and Lufthansa this must put the airport in a strong position.

https://simpleflying.com/ethiopian-a...lans-revealed/
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Old 27th Nov 2023, 19:34
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
That was a pain point in stand blocking. EDI's lack of remote parking meant no ability to push off stand for a few hours, maybe even cater on a remote while one of the US flights used the gate before towing back on for the departure.There's pretty much no contingency in summer now, so you have long haulers being late back to their base due to holding on taxiways in Scotland for a gate. Now for the margins of a LHR/FRA/CDG that's unavoidable, for Scotland, there's probably a few similar airports competing for the aircraft that can get it home on time. That's my worry.
They could always go back to your ex favourite before you became an EDI fan, Glasgow?

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Old 27th Nov 2023, 20:56
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Do you mean me? What I would love to see is EDI thrive and prosper as a good advert for Scotland. Having good connections and a decent passenger experience. A terminal fit for a modern 21st century European capital.

I'm not a 14 year old fan boy and this isn't a playground. Constructive criticism not allowed?
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Old 27th Nov 2023, 21:35
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Do you mean me? What I would love to see is EDI thrive and prosper as a good advert for Scotland. Having good connections and a decent passenger experience. A terminal fit for a modern 21st century European capital.

I'm not a 14 year old fan boy and this isn't a playground. Constructive criticism not allowed?

You didn't answer my question?
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Old 27th Nov 2023, 22:12
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You didn't ask one so far as I can see. Don't drink and post fella.
If the commercial nos say EDI is the better bet then I have no skin in the game. Three lowland airports was always too many, PIK seems to have found a niche at last and GLA is being bled dry by EDI.
When GLA had a woeful customer experience in the 90s they had transformational funding at group level to build a new build pier with airbridges for most gates. That's no longer an option for EDI and their infrastructure seems likely to be relatively poor going forward as they need to force a pint into a 1/2 pint pot to make their targets.

My "ex favourite"? How OLD are you?
I grew up west coast but left tribal bs behind when I left.... I use both GLA/EDI frequently as a consumer.

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Old 28th Nov 2023, 04:41
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
You didn't ask one so far as I can see. Don't drink and post fella.
If the commercial nos say EDI is the better bet then I have no skin in the game. Three lowland airports was always too many, PIK seems to have found a niche at last and GLA is being bled dry by EDI.
When GLA had a woeful customer experience in the 90s they had transformational funding at group level to build a new build pier with airbridges for most gates. That's no longer an option for EDI and their infrastructure seems likely to be relatively poor going forward as they need to force a pint into a 1/2 pint pot to make their targets.

My "ex favourite"? How OLD are you?
I grew up west coast but left tribal bs behind when I left.... I use both GLA/EDI frequently as a consumer.
To simplify it for you basically my question was that if Edinburgh's at capacity and US flights are being unacceptably delayed thus missing connections Stateside then restart a Glasgow flight, it's just along the road isn't it.
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Old 28th Nov 2023, 05:02
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Originally Posted by habs_fan
Air Canada Re-start has been Pushed back to May from March due Aircraft availability shortage.
Na that’s almost certainly a half truth , just weaker forward bookings in March , April and early May .

The carrier has a history of pushing back and reducing seasonal shoulder services .

No disrespect.
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Na that’s almost certainly a half truth , just weaker forward bookings in March , April and early May .

The carrier has a history of pushing back and reducing seasonal shoulder services .

No disrespect.
I agree - if there are operational issues, which flights do you pull first? the weaker performers.
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