Edinburgh-4

[pabely]

Originally Posted by tictack67

I believe they started Aberdeen first on a couple of routes usually very late departures in the evening.

Yet tonights arrivals were max +11 minutes late but look at the departures times. So the issue is the airport or handlings agent. Cannot run a business with poor services, time to try something else or move on.

[Planeraz]

Qatar

QR continuing to do well to/from EDI. All flights tomorrow sold out. A 773 scheduled to operate the first service of the day.

[GoEDI]

The AM EDI-DOH was cancelled today, so presume this is the reason for this sub. B788 still on the ground here, guessing it's tech.

[Planeraz]

Originally Posted by GoEDI

The AM EDI-DOH was cancelled today, so presume this is the reason for this sub. B788 still on the ground here, guessing it's tech.

Thanks for that. Still good to see both inbounds tomorrow sold out. Some weird info recorded on flight radar re the aircraft operating the cancelled QR.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a4o-di

[Sk1schoolsam]

According to a Aeroroutes


Doha – Edinburgh
eff 29OCT23 14 weekly service maintained, 787-8 operating (Previous: 787-8/-9)
eff 01DEC23 A350-900XWB operating, instead of A350-900XWB/787-9

Good to see the A350 back but means a slight drop in capacity compared to the original plan with the dropping of the 789 but still an overall daily increase from 1st December.

[Planeraz]

Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam

According to a Aeroroutes


Doha – Edinburgh
eff 29OCT23 14 weekly service maintained, 787-8 operating (Previous: 787-8/-9)
eff 01DEC23 A350-900XWB operating, instead of A350-900XWB/787-9

Good to see the A350 back but means a slight drop in capacity compared to the original plan with the dropping of the 789 but still an overall daily increase from 1st December.

It is good news. Given that QR is currently transporting 30k+ pax per month on the route (acknowledging that this total may dip a little off season), surely other ME carriers, aircraft availablity allowing and crew etc, before long will want a slice of this pie? TK also doing very well to/from EDI with transfer pax from the Indian sub continent and Pakistan bolstering their pax numbers. We all know who the other ME carriers are but is it just a case of when rather than if?

[inOban]

Just curious. The final Beijing flight leaves today but I didn't see the inbound on FlightRadar last night. Did it fly in empty?

[Planeraz]

Originally Posted by inOban

Just curious. The final Beijing flight leaves today but I didn't see the inbound on FlightRadar last night. Did it fly in empty?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/hu407

[QEC]

Originally Posted by Planeraz

It is good news. Given that QR is currently transporting 30k+ pax per month on the route (acknowledging that this total may dip a little off season), surely other ME carriers, aircraft availablity allowing and crew etc, before long will want a slice of this pie? TK also doing very well to/from EDI with transfer pax from the Indian sub continent and Pakistan bolstering their pax numbers. We all know who the other ME carriers are but is it just a case of when rather than if?

Etihad and Emirates? They both withdrew? And a Turkish Glasgow flight would dilute pax numbers on the Edinburgh flight possibly?

[Planeraz]

Originally Posted by QEC

Etihad and Emirates? They both withdrew? And a Turkish Glasgow flight would dilute pax numbers on the Edinburgh flight possibly?

Yes, Etihad and Emirates eventually withdrew. Emirates took the place of Etihad. It all happened in a very choreographed way. Emirates cancelled the EDI service due to the pandemic, officially. Other factors no doubt impacted. They had, I think it would be fair to say a mixed bag of result in terms of LF’s and pax numbers. Did very well at certain times, ie, high summer season, Easter and Xmas/NY. EK have retained slots to date but obviously haven’t resumed. TK - Glasgow is a maybe for sometime in the future. I don’t think it will impact EDI’s market share hugely. I suspect TK see Glasgow as an opportunity to tap into EK’s dominance.

[Planeraz]

United

321XLR or 787 or both. I wonder if the news re a large 787 order means we can expect to see these aircraft serving EDI in the not too distant future?

https://ukaviation.news/united-airli...787-airliners/

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Likely both given the seasonality of the service, A321 might allow increased frequency into winter.

[Planeraz]

United S24

United stating to release bits and pieces of info. ORD S24 starting one day earlier than planned! Could their be something new for S24?



https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/231009-uans24eu

[laviation]

I struggle to see where they'd add though?
I think most United expansion in S24 will be across the Pacific, and then a couple of 757 routes across the Atlantic
Certainly won't see as many new European routes as 2023 or 2022, imho

[GeorgeNTravels]

Ryanair S24

Frequencies based on week commencing 8 JUL 24. Some routes currently set to commence in June have flights loaded for the last week in March. Due to terminal capacity restrictions in APRIL and MAY that is the likely reason for some reductions and cuts in those months. ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE

ALC - 7 weekly
BCN - 10 weekly
BRI - 2 weekly (currently set to commence in JUNE)
BFS - 13 weekly
BER - 8 weekly
BZR - 2 weekly (currently set to commence in JUNE)
BLL - NOT CURRENTLY LOADED
BLQ - 3 weekly (currently set to commence in JUNE)
BOD - 4 weekly (currently set to commence in JUNE)
BOH - 4 weekly
BTS - 2 weekly (currently loaded as 1 weekly in APRIL and MAY)
CRL - 9 weekly
OTP - 4 weekly (currently set to commence in JUNE)
BUD - 7 weekly (currently loaded as 1 weekly in APRIL and MAY)
CCF - NOT CURRENTLY LOADED
CPH - 9 weekly (not currently loaded in APRIL and MAY)
CFU - 1 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
ORK - 10 weekly
DUB - 32 weekly
NRN - 7 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
EIN - 2 weekly (currently loaded as 1 weekly in APRIL and MAY)
FAO - 8 weekly
FUE - 2 weekly
GDN - 5 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
LPA - 3 weekly
GOT - 2 weekly (currently loaded as 1 weekly in APRIL and MAY)
HAM - 5 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
IBZ - 2 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
KUN - 2 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
NOC - 3 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
KRK - 7 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
ACE - 4 weekly
LIS - 3 weekly (currently loaded as 1 weekly in APRIL and MAY)
STN - 17 weekly
MAD - 5 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
AGP - 6 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
MLA - 3 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
RAK - 2 weekly
MRS - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
BGY - 7 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
NTE - 2 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
NAP - 3 weekly (currently loaded as 1 weekly in APRIL and MAY)
NQY - 2 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
FNI - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
PMO - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
PMI - 8 weekly
BVA - 5 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
PSA - 4 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
PIS - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
OPO - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
POZ - 3 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
PRG - 5 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
RHO - 2 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
RIX - 4 weekly (currently loaded as 2 weekly in APRIL and MAY)
CIA - 7 weekly
SDR - 2 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
SCQ - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
SVQ - 3 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
SNN - 3 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
SOF - 3 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
TFS - 6 weekly
TIA - 3 weekly
TLS - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
TRN - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED
VLC - 2 weekly (currently loaded as 1 weekly in APRIL and MAY)
VCE - 3 weekly (currently loaded as 1 weekly in APRIL and MAY)
VIE - 3 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
WMI - CURRENTLY NOT LOADED (they hold slots for EDI-WAW this winter so may transfer)
WRO - 2 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)
ZAD - 2 weekly (currently not loaded in APRIL and MAY)

[tartan 201]

Originally Posted by GeorgeNTravels

Frequencies based on week commencing 8 JUL 24. Some routes currently set to commence in June have flights loaded for the last week in March. Due to terminal capacity restrictions in APRIL and MAY that is the likely reason for some reductions and cuts in those months. ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE

I don't think that terminal capacity restrictions is the likely reason why some RYR flights aren't loaded in April and May. This post notes a similar pattern for RYR's flights at BFS and this one a similar pattern for their flights at BOH. Furthermore, some of those routes listed as not operating in April and May (when security capacity will be restricted) are shown as operating in October (when capacity will again be restricted). I suspect the non-availability of certain flights in April and May is therefore more likely to be a (presumably) temporary feature of RYR's system rather than some EDI-specific capacity issue.

[Planeraz]

US Pre-clearance

A couple of sources at EDI have suggested that the airport has been informed of the decision re the application. Now the waiting game as to when they will officially announce if the airport has been selected.

[Planeraz]

August 23 Pax Numbers

Aug 23 - 1,480,878 (up 24% on Aug 22 - 1,199,075)

Almost identical to Aug 19 - 1,479,855

Some approx LF’s for certain routes. UA had a few cancellations in Aug. Delta also had a couple. AC also had a cancellation. Delta best performing route in S23 was Atlanta, which also had the shortest run by far. Already on sale for S24. I wonder if they may extend into October in line with the other routes?

QR - Doha 30,822 or 99%
TK - Istanbul 11,762 or 98%
AC - Toronto 15,933 or 96%
WS - Calgary 7,901 or 84%
HU - Beijing 3,327 or 72%
VS - Orlando 4,847 or 72%
UA - Newark 18,701 or 90%
UA - Chicago 8,928 or 86%
UA - Washington 9,957 or 92%
DL - JFK 12,442 or 94%
DL - Boston 11,313 or 87%
DL - Atlanta 12,616 or 95%

[Planeraz]

Qatar S24

QR increasing capacity on EDI-DOH route. A359 now scheduled to operate double daily instead of 788. An increase of 812 seats per week.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

I think perhaps Virgin's Orlando run might make more sense on the A330-300 based on these numbers?
Tricky if the MAN-MCO rotations are doing better though, and may be better suited to the A35K?