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Old 5th Oct 2023, 14:20
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Not an issue as LRT has excluded any pollution emitted from aircraft as part of its Green Controlled Growth strategy allowing it to potentially nearly double.

Like LRT let’s pretend it doesn’t matter.

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Old 5th Oct 2023, 19:19
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You are proposing zero growth, not green growth.
https://www.oecd.org/greengrowth/wha...evelopment.htm
If growth is not at Luton it will be somewhere else which achieves nothing, might as well embrace a controlled framework.
.....but you are only concerned about what is in your line of sight, not the big pichure.
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Old 5th Oct 2023, 21:52
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No such thing as green growth in Luton’s case but they won’t admit it but at least we will get some unseasonably warm weather this weekend, as we did last month to visit the pub garden.
Warmest September on record as 'gobsmacking' data shocks scientists
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67017021

The inspectors know it but LRT is trying to convince a bigger audience with its BS.

Anyway, it is out of our hands and will be decided by government. Expect the 19m decision within the next 7 days or even tomorrow after the party conference.

Regarding the DCO and 32m, the inspectors are asking some really awkward question with LRT asking for extra time.

Rule 17 letter

https://infrastructure.planninginspe...tober-2023.pdf


LRT had submitted over 24,000 pages in 229 documents at the start. It must be well over 30,000 pages by now, as the amended documents and additional documents submitted now equal 133. The final DCO bill will be eye watering, as I think it was already £50m. Now what could have the council have done with £50m?

Submitted docs
https://infrastructure.planninginspe...%20Library.pdf

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Old 6th Oct 2023, 11:27
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I note in the Rule 17 letter, one of the questions is "
Whether there is any bar to operating at 21.5 million passengers per annum (or a higher capacity) at the point of a consent eg, due to physical infrastructure limitations;"
Perhaps there is hope for approval of 21.5m rather than 19m approval? Slots constantly asked about which are currently governed by ACL.
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Old 6th Oct 2023, 14:04
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No, the called-in application for 19m is just that and is completely separate. Even the applicants are different.

The DCO is looking at passenger numbers increasing in 3 phases to 21.5m, 27m and 32m. Maybe the question being asked is looking at the scenario of how many passengers can Luton handle if the inspectors turn down the infrastructure of the 3 phases but allowing for expansion of numbers using an unmodified existing terminal?
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Old 6th Oct 2023, 14:54
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There is definitely scope for additional passenger numbers (and slots) provided they are at "off peak" times. The quietest period seems to be between about 9am and 11am, just after the non-based Wizzair wave has departed back to Eastern Europe and before most of the first wave based departures arrive back. Over the summer there were typically only around 12 movements during that 2 hour window.
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Old 7th Oct 2023, 16:22
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Some early morning closures coming up next month for a couple of Saturday & Sunday's.
A) EGGW
B) 23/11/11 00:00 C) 23/11/19 05:30
D) SAT SUN 0000-0530
E) AD CLOSED TO ALL ACFT MOVMENTS FOR ANNUAL MAINTENANCE - LAST DEPARTURE TO BE AIRBORNE BY 2345
Easyjet seem to be getting all flights re-timed to be back at base but Wizzair don't, yet.

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Old 9th Oct 2023, 18:53
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Old 9th Oct 2023, 19:06
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unlikely......obviously author was not around when the choice was MacAlpine or Hunting at LHR!
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Old 9th Oct 2023, 20:12
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An extra El Al first thing tomorrow morning.

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Old 9th Oct 2023, 22:37
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo
An extra El Al first thing tomorrow morning.
Not the last extra flight I suspect, will we see a 777 making an appearance?
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Old 10th Oct 2023, 10:29
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Book your slots for Euro 2028, suspect Luton & Stansted might have wavers for nightflight restrictions once fans exit games at Spurs & Wembley grounds.
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Old 10th Oct 2023, 12:23
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Originally Posted by pabely
Not the last extra flight I suspect, will we see a 777 making an appearance?
I suspect this will be a very short term peak while Brits return to Britain and Israelis return to Israel... followed by something of a lull in demand. Events of March 2020 just before Covid lockdown might be considered to be a similiar scenario
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Old 10th Oct 2023, 13:20
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I haven’t checked but apparently Wizz and Easyjet have cancelled all flights to Israel from Luton until further notice
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Old 10th Oct 2023, 13:25
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I havenít checked but apparently Wizz and Easyjet have cancelled all flights to Israel from Luton until further notice
LTN to Tel Aviv currently on sale on Easyjet app for all dates from and including Saturday 14 October
Wizzair currently selling LTN to Tel Aviv on their app on Monday 16 October
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Old 10th Oct 2023, 16:53
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Wizzair's TLV (LTN & LGW) turned back mid flight on 7th, Easyjet continued that day but nothing since.
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Old 10th Oct 2023, 20:38
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Something major is kicking off at the airport. Fire engines are piling into the airport. All access roads blocked.
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Old 10th Oct 2023, 20:39
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The airport is currently closed (2135L) There is a big fire in one of the multi storey CP's
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Old 10th Oct 2023, 20:45
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The whole of the top floor is on fire
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The whole of the top floor is on fire
Any photos ?
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