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Old 3rd Oct 2023, 22:44
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I suspect the average Wizzair/Easyjet customers never read such a magazine anyhow, probably use the FBO facilities!
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Coming first without a single air bridge and a long walk in the rain to the drop off area is quite an achievement. On the other side of the coin the Dart has improved the passenger experience but then not many people use it compared with those that arrive by various forms of road transport.
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I suspect the average Wizzair/Easyjet customers never read such a magazine anyhow, probably use the FBO facilities!

Seriously? Thats very prejudice of you! Youd be surprised who flies with the airlines you mentioned plus FR! With respect, kerp your uneducated deluded comments and prejudice to yourself!
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I'm really not sure I trust this survey
Which do you think are useful?
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Seriously? Thats very prejudice of you! Youd be surprised who flies with the airlines you mentioned plus FR! With respect, kerp your uneducated deluded comments and prejudice to yourself!
If you actually read the article "Luton airport joined the top flight (is it all those private jets you’re flying in?)." so blame the author.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Which do you think are useful?
If the survey is to include the non-FBO areas of LTN, then it should not be in a magazine discussing a $135,000 balloon ride to space
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Originally Posted by pabely
Guess quite a few will be dining out on this for months- that is until the next “ Which” report comes out.
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Originally Posted by ezyBoh
Seriously? Thats very prejudice of you! Youd be surprised who flies with the airlines you mentioned plus FR! With respect, kerp your uneducated deluded comments and prejudice to yourself!

Pabely probably speaks the truth and if not is entitled to his opinion and out pops a woke who is outraged.

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Pabely probably speaks the truth and if not is entitled to his opinion and out pops a woke who is outraged.
Please remind me, what does 'woke' mean?
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adjective. /wəʊk/ /wəʊk/ (informal, often disapproving) ​aware of social and political issues, especially racism This word is often used in a disapproving way by people who think that some other people are too easily upset about these issues, or talk too much about them in a way that does not change anything.
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Originally Posted by ezyBoh
Seriously? Thats very prejudice of you! Youd be surprised who flies with the airlines you mentioned plus FR! With respect, kerp your uneducated deluded comments and prejudice to yourself!
Also if you have ever read the magazine you will enjoy Japan, Mexico, USA, Canada etc in featured articles- all easily reachable by Easyjet/ Wizzair/Ryanair! - any other Luton airline? The magazine is aimed at travellers with large amounts of disposal income and very US centric.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Pabely probably speaks the truth and if not is entitled to his opinion and out pops a woke who is outraged.

Me, woke? You couldn't be further from the truth!
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Luton knows its market and has been very successful targeting it with little thought about anything else except low cost carriers. Its basic facilities meet those requirements but its downmarket feel explains, with the exception of EL AL, why Luton has been unsuccessful in attracting any flag carriers or any full fare airlines that dabble in offering cheaper fares.

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https://www.lutontoday.co.uk/news/tr...-ahead-4358259

The Need Case has “tested” potential long-term long-haul demand and found flights to New York, Dubai, Orlando, Toronto, Chicago, Cancún and Abu Dhabi are likely to become viable. Ms Congdon said none of these are forecast to kick in until after 2037.

She added it is “prudent” to consider the potential for long-haul flights so Luton Rising does not “understate the environmental impacts” of wide-bodied aircraft.
In plain speak this means setting “green controlled growth” high enough to allow for any eventualities making it meaningless.
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The distance between Cancún (Cancún International Airport) and London (Luton Airport) is 4947 miles / 7961 kilometers / 4299 nautical miles.
Can a 777/787/330/350 get off Luton's runway such a distance?
It's a big difference from the Silverjet with limited number of seats/baggage.
Didn't TUI once go to Melbourne with 767s but with 2 stops?
Monarch did some charters with 757s down to Kenya I think and US but that is classed as narrow body and the 757 was very good with such missions, something 321XLR could do?
Starter strip required on runway 25/07?
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Starter strip required on runway 25/07?
Unlikely, as it is not part of the DCO.
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The distance between Cancún (Cancún International Airport) and London (Luton Airport) is 4947 miles / 7961 kilometers / 4299 nautical miles.
Can a 777/787/330/350 get off Luton's runway such a distance?
It's a big difference from the Silverjet with limited number of seats/baggage.
Didn't TUI once go to Melbourne with 767s but with 2 stops?
Monarch did some charters with 757s down to Kenya I think and US but that is classed as narrow body and the 757 was very good with such missions, something 321XLR could do?
Starter strip required on runway 25/07?
TUI do it from a shorter Bristol strip (although the Wx very occasionally catches them out and they have to stop at Manchester)
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Monarch did do some A330-200 direct charters from LTN to Florida in 2001 but 9/11 put an end to them. Main constraint was the end of runway turning circle due to nose gear angle limitations - at the time some white sticks were put in the grass for guidance!
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Didn't Airtours also have a DC10 at Luton for the 2001 summer season, although I'm not sure if that was used for anything over the pond?

767s used to do Orlando Sanford in the 90s and Britannia used to even do flights to Australia with the first leg being Luton - Bahrain.

Definitely technically doable. But whether there is an appetite for longer flights from Luton these days is another matter. As LTNman says, the airport is all geared towards low cost now. I think the likes of TUI would rather use other airports for long haul and they will keep moving more and more of their Luton pax onto easyJet flights, as they have been doing for the last 5-10 years.



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Thus long haul flights are not directly linked to any T2, say if Wizzair decide to go in that direction and get themselves some A330NEOs then this can be done today - subject to using an existing slot.
The only concern is the amount of CO2 of a widebody produces vs say a 320.
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