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Quote from the fire chief“Asked if there were sprinklers in the car park, fire chief Andy Hopkinson says "not that I'm aware of".
He says the fire service would recommend to the airport that sprinklers are fitted in any redevelopment of the car park.
He also tells gathered reporters that the car park being opened from the side would have allowed the fire to spread "horizontally" before it went up through the building.”
Also suggested a diesel car was the source, this aligns with the Norwegian airport fire source.
He says the fire service would recommend to the airport that sprinklers are fitted in any redevelopment of the car park.
He also tells gathered reporters that the car park being opened from the side would have allowed the fire to spread "horizontally" before it went up through the building.”
Also suggested a diesel car was the source, this aligns with the Norwegian airport fire source.
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I know that all vehicles that enter the terminal area have to go round that car park....did they build a alternate road so say busses could acces as normal but by pass the car park road to exit....
just asking as that would get traffic ( busses ) moving to Mid Term and Long Term etc.
Hopefully the DART can reopen, assuming no water damage
just asking as that would get traffic ( busses ) moving to Mid Term and Long Term etc.
Hopefully the DART can reopen, assuming no water damage
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I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that already people on here from their cosy armchairs are being quick to criticise the emergency response. Pathetic! Thankfully nobody appears to have been killed or seriously injured! Cars and structure can be replaced, humans cannot be!
I suppose soon the compensation freaks will be at it too!
Great respect for the emergency services who must have been operating in difficult and frightening circumstances. Their efforts do seem to have prevented even more extensive damage to the airport infrastructure.
Hopefully all those who believe if they were in charge everything would be perfect all the time can just shut up for a while and let those who are trying to sort things get on with their jobs.
I suppose soon the compensation freaks will be at it too!
Great respect for the emergency services who must have been operating in difficult and frightening circumstances. Their efforts do seem to have prevented even more extensive damage to the airport infrastructure.
Hopefully all those who believe if they were in charge everything would be perfect all the time can just shut up for a while and let those who are trying to sort things get on with their jobs.
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As the fire chief is suggesting that it’s probably a diesel (as it was in a similar incident at a MSCP at Liverpool Albert Dock) should there similarly be repercussions against diesels?
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Quote from the fire chief“Asked if there were sprinklers in the car park, fire chief Andy Hopkinson says "not that I'm aware of".
He says the fire service would recommend to the airport that sprinklers are fitted in any redevelopment of the car park.
He also tells gathered reporters that the car park being opened from the side would have allowed the fire to spread "horizontally" before it went up through the building.”
Also suggested a diesel car was the source, this aligns with the Norwegian airport fire source.
He says the fire service would recommend to the airport that sprinklers are fitted in any redevelopment of the car park.
He also tells gathered reporters that the car park being opened from the side would have allowed the fire to spread "horizontally" before it went up through the building.”
Also suggested a diesel car was the source, this aligns with the Norwegian airport fire source.
As for the source of the fire, a diesel fire should not burn down a brand new multistory but there are enough EV’s around that once the fire reaches its first EV there is no going back.
However given the number of EVs on our roads now, and the infrequency of fires the cause is likely something else. I imagine forensic investigation will find the actual cause pretty quickly.
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My understanding it was an EV. If I am wrong fair enough. I have no agenda against EVs or diesels for that matter. No doubt the type of vehicle involved will be confirmed in due course.
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Looking at LTNman's photos. The whole structure will have to come down. Given, insurance, building plans etc. I'd say a re-open is at least two years away, possibly more.
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I suspect the real money earner was the drop off zone at a minimum of £5 or more per visit with its 8 exit barriers. Whatever the temporary arrangement is it will be free initially but this isn’t a 5 minute fix.
(edit, corrected to 8 barriers)
(edit, corrected to 8 barriers)
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In multi-story 1 there is a bank of EV charges between floors. I somehow think they will be moved. Also that car park is a mirror of car park 2 so has the same risks.
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Not true, LTNman. See this article from 2018 on the Liverpool MSCP fire, well before widespread EV adoption. Looks very familiar. As posted elsewhere, the main fire generator is car tires on vehicles parked very close together.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...yside-46290095
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...yside-46290095
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I’d love to read the fire risk assessment that decided a sprinkler system wasn’t required (as mitigation for an event such as this).
It seems that a diesel Range Rover (dreadful cars) may have been the source of the fire. However, once it spread to EVs, the fire would have been much less controllable.
Maybe EVs should only be allowed to park in multi story car parks with suitable protection. The cost of parking would need to be higher.
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It seems that a diesel Range Rover (dreadful cars) may have been the source of the fire. However, once it spread to EVs, the fire would have been much less controllable.
Maybe EVs should only be allowed to park in multi story car parks with suitable protection. The cost of parking would need to be higher.
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At this stage, no one knows for certain what caused the fire. In the past, Yes EVs have caught fire due to thermal runaway within a faulty battery. Diesel and petrol fuelled cars have also caught fire in the past. Most of these have liquid fuel stored in plastic fuel tanks. Once one of these tanks ruptures they will dump all their contents on the ground the fuel will flow laterally while burning and engulf any neighbouring vehicles. If you turn on water sprinklers the fuel will float on the water and spread even further! Foam suppression is the only answer.
Car parks should have a fluid bund(sump) built in so spillage can drain away rather than spread.
Car parks should have a fluid bund(sump) built in so spillage can drain away rather than spread.