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Old 20th Sep 2023, 21:31
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Seems the terminal and CTA are cut off by floodwater. Passengers cannot get in or out. Not bad for an airport on top of a hill.

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https://www.bedfordshirelive.co.uk/n...irport-8767811
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World exclusive. The flood is where it always floods, which is the tunnel under the taxiway. Maybe around 8 years ago and after many floods the airport installed what looked like large milk crates on the fire station side of the road to act as a catchment area for flood water. It didn’t work. The ironic thing is that airport activity is adding to the problem if you believe in global warming.

https://www.sdslimited.com/wp-conten...on-Airport.pdf


https://cinmagazine.co.uk/london-lut...ater%20quality.

An additional benefit of the SuDS system has been the reduction, to a great extent, in the frequency and volume of the flooding that occurred in the neighbouring Airport Way underpass. Whilst the flooding hazard for both carriageways continues to remain categorised as ‘significant’ for a one in 100 year storm event, the severity of flooding across the access route in a 30 year event has been reduced to the category of ‘moderate’ for one carriageway whilst, for a one in ten year event, the second carriageway is deemed entirely clear.

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Looking at the live traffic view on Google maps last night, New Airport Way (A1081) to past Capability Green, Airport Way, Vauxhall Way (A505), Kimpton Road, Gypsy Lane and Percival Way were totally grid locked, which was affecting traffic that was not even going to the airport.
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It was total carnage yesterday not helped by the fact that the airport has no plan B. People were also wandering around like drowned rats and that was just getting from the aircraft to the terminal. The walk to the drop area was just as bad as the covered walkway ends halfway.
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The first emergency service which responds to flood is housed right next door, or is that not in their job description?
Was the DART affected as the CTA Station and winding machinery are down a big hole - or has runoff water added to the problem?
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Old 21st Sep 2023, 16:01
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The walk to the drop area was just as bad as the covered walkway ends halfway.
Indeed. Spotted that when it was built. They saved pennies once and now it's a problem for ever.
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Does Luton give incentives for quieter and less CO2 aircraft?
https://www.nova.ie/ryanair-pull-17-...t-hike-234732/

All Max based fleet for Luton then?
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The Council have given incentives in the past for any aircraft.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
The Council have given incentives in the past for any aircraft.
Just like almost every airport in Europe then.

But this will be swapping more 737-800s for 737-8200s, no net increase in planes thus movements due to pax / slot restritions.
Is the cost of landing charges less due to the model, I note Sun Express send alot of Max, as did Blue Air when they are around, is there a reduction in cost from the airport?
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 08:31
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Landing charges are published here https://www.london-luton.co.uk/Londo...9251a2be43.pdf

Chapter 14 aircraft are cheaper than non-Chapter 14 aircraft. I think the Chapter 14 is a noise designation, so the newer, quieter aircraft do seem to get a lower charge.
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Originally Posted by ClearLand08
Landing charges are published here https://www.london-luton.co.uk/Londo...9251a2be43.pdf

Chapter 14 aircraft are cheaper than non-Chapter 14 aircraft. I think the Chapter 14 is a noise designation, so the newer, quieter aircraft do seem to get a lower charge.
Thanks for that, does show NEO & Max aircraft attract less charges so an incentive to move to those. aka what Wizzair will be doing too.
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Except Luton has stated that the A321 NEO is noisier than what it is replacing. Not to worry, no established Luton airline will pay those published charges. It is all about passengers through the terminal door via secret deals that comes out years later.

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Originally Posted by LTNman
Except Luton has stated that the A321 NEO is noisier than what it is replacing. Not to worry, no established Luton airline will pay those published charges. It is all about passengers through the terminal door via secret deals that comes out years later.
I think they are replacing x1 320CEO and x1 321CEO with x2 321NEO so the latter should have a better cost saving. Everyone acknowledges reduced CO2 irrespective of different noise element.
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Not to worry, no established Luton airline will pay those published charges. It is all about passengers through the terminal door via secret deals that comes out years later.
Which airport publishes what their big customers are paying?
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I understand that Ryanair's Max 8200s seat 198 pax, against 189 on the 800s. Does this mean that, if they increase 8200 operations, they will need to review their slot allocation?
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Which airport publishes what their big customers are paying?
The discounts come from the Council and not the airport and are passed on by the operator.
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I understand that Ryanair's Max 8200s seat 198 pax, against 189 on the 800s. Does this mean that, if they increase 8200 operations, they will need to review their slot allocation?
I think already been x3 737-8200 ( plus x3 737-8s) based over summer and no-one said anything then. e.g. tonight based 737-8200s arrive from flights to Naples, Lublin & Athens to nightstop. If it goes to x6, time will tell whether it was smoke & mirrors for the Irish press.

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Old 23rd Sep 2023, 14:01
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A Lancaster just did a low level solo flyby that caught my interest.
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Yes, the Lanc was nice and low

Seems to be on a tour taking in various events:

• 23 September - LSH - BRADWELL BAY, Waterside Air Display, ESSEX - between 2.00 & 2.30pm
• 23 September - WALTHAM ABBEY, HERTFORDSHIRE - between 2.31 & 3.01pm
• 23 September - HEVER, KENT - between 2.34 & 3.04pm
• 23 September - L - Santa Pod Raceway, PODINGTON, NORTHAMPTONSHIRE - 3.11pm
• 23 September - SS - LEE ON SOLENT AD, HAMPSHIRE - 3.11pm
• 23 September - H - SOUTHAMPTON Boat Show, HAMPSHIRE - between 3.01 & 3.31pm
• 23 September - L - BLETCHLEY Park, BUCKINGHAMSHIRE - 3.02pm
• 23 September - L - SYWELL Pistons & Props, NORTHAMPTONSHIRE - 3.17pm
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