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I see the boss of Jet2 is blaming Brexit for the current shortage of workers. The reality is that the industry needs to fully accept that the hordes of EU workers who worked for peanuts are history and fair wages will be the only way forward....
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Even with ‘fair wages’ how do you fill vacancies where you have more positions than people available without reversing Brexit and/or shrinking the economy?
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AirportPlanner1 would be the first to blame Brexit if unemployment was high as he is about blaming Brexit because unemployment is low. I don’t see low unemployment as being a bad thing at the airport if it means bad employers have to pay staff more and there are plenty of those here at Luton.
Luton was a Brexit town so if there was a vote tomorrow to reverse that position so bringing in fresh overseas workers to undercut existing staff wage rates again, there would be little support.
The main issue is not Brexit, as that is last years news but Covid where people were sacked or laid off and now don’t want to come back to 24/7 shift pattens. We are now on day 2 of a Jubilee 4 day weekend but it might as well be just a normal day as airport workers don’t get any time off or overtime if their existing shift patterns don’t line up.
Keeping cheap new foreign labour out means passengers using Luton will have to pay fares that reflect that staff are not being exploited by being offered zero hour contracts or wages that are impossible to live on. Actually the new pay rates are still impossible to live on so expect further rises in air fares. If that means less people can afford to travel then so be it.
Luton was a Brexit town so if there was a vote tomorrow to reverse that position so bringing in fresh overseas workers to undercut existing staff wage rates again, there would be little support.
The main issue is not Brexit, as that is last years news but Covid where people were sacked or laid off and now don’t want to come back to 24/7 shift pattens. We are now on day 2 of a Jubilee 4 day weekend but it might as well be just a normal day as airport workers don’t get any time off or overtime if their existing shift patterns don’t line up.
Keeping cheap new foreign labour out means passengers using Luton will have to pay fares that reflect that staff are not being exploited by being offered zero hour contracts or wages that are impossible to live on. Actually the new pay rates are still impossible to live on so expect further rises in air fares. If that means less people can afford to travel then so be it.
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Long but completely illiterate response there from Spanish Eyes.
Thankfully the days of the ‘Luton’ model for Brexit are as numbered as Johnson is. We’ve had one brave Conservative leadership contender speak the obvious and another one who realises such truths are fatal has disagreed but promised a better deal than the current one. Even if Johnson clings on the Northern Irish issue and the Americans means the unicorn Luton La La land utopia meets reality in a stand off only one side will win. Spoiler - it’s not Luton.
Thankfully the days of the ‘Luton’ model for Brexit are as numbered as Johnson is. We’ve had one brave Conservative leadership contender speak the obvious and another one who realises such truths are fatal has disagreed but promised a better deal than the current one. Even if Johnson clings on the Northern Irish issue and the Americans means the unicorn Luton La La land utopia meets reality in a stand off only one side will win. Spoiler - it’s not Luton.
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I fail to see what AirportPlanner1 is adding to this thread when his comments have nothing to do with Luton or even airports in general, as they would be more appropriate on the Brexit moaners thread on JetBlast, which will run forever. Best to get over it, as there is no going back.
Work starts this month on the Dart forecourt at Parkway, which will take 12 weeks to complete. Goodbye summer season with a second summer lost. Even if the Dart was finished for the summer the airport seems to have little confidence in the Dart running smoothly in the opening weeks, as it was the intention to open the Dart off season regardless of the Dart’s completion date.
Work starts this month on the Dart forecourt at Parkway, which will take 12 weeks to complete. Goodbye summer season with a second summer lost. Even if the Dart was finished for the summer the airport seems to have little confidence in the Dart running smoothly in the opening weeks, as it was the intention to open the Dart off season regardless of the Dart’s completion date.
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So let's look forward to the DART for 2023.
I predict Egypt will be a new destination for WZZ soon. Was always strong for TUI before they reduced everything at Luton, EZY out on their own currently and Egyptair have increased capacity at LHR due to demand.
Maybe Egyptair & WZZ new from Luton?
Don't know who Blue Air are leasing their LHR slots from but at some point I assume they will have to give them back, where does that leave them?
Next batch of slot applications will be interesting reading.
Fast runway exit points and new stands required for next year please!
I predict Egypt will be a new destination for WZZ soon. Was always strong for TUI before they reduced everything at Luton, EZY out on their own currently and Egyptair have increased capacity at LHR due to demand.
Maybe Egyptair & WZZ new from Luton?
Don't know who Blue Air are leasing their LHR slots from but at some point I assume they will have to give them back, where does that leave them?
Next batch of slot applications will be interesting reading.
Fast runway exit points and new stands required for next year please!
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Eastern did well today bringing in a replacement aircraft for one which arrived earlier and I think went Tech. Looks like IOM TT charter work.
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When you are only prepared to pay £17k per year, no wonder there is a recruitment issues! What is the answer? Open the floodgates to fill the low wage jobs from the EU! That door thankfully has firmly bolted!
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I fail to see what AirportPlanner1 is adding to this thread when his comments have nothing to do with Luton or even airports in general, as they would be more appropriate on the Brexit moaners thread on JetBlast, which will run forever. Best to get over it, as there is no going back.
Work starts this month on the Dart forecourt at Parkway, which will take 12 weeks to complete. Goodbye summer season with a second summer lost. Even if the Dart was finished for the summer the airport seems to have little confidence in the Dart running smoothly in the opening weeks, as it was the intention to open the Dart off season regardless of the Dart’s completion date.
Work starts this month on the Dart forecourt at Parkway, which will take 12 weeks to complete. Goodbye summer season with a second summer lost. Even if the Dart was finished for the summer the airport seems to have little confidence in the Dart running smoothly in the opening weeks, as it was the intention to open the Dart off season regardless of the Dart’s completion date.
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The London Cable Car, formally known as the Emirates Air Line, that crosses the River Thames, cost £60m and was built by Doppelmayr who just happened to build the Dart. The latest estimate for the Dart by comparison is £300m.
The return fare for the Cable Car is £10 while the Dart will be around £5.
The cable car carries around 1.3m passengers a year and normally runs at a loss without sponsorship.
My expectation is that with the huge debt mountain the Dart will also run at a loss and will be sold off below cost leaving the residents paying for the Dart for a generation or more with less dividends from LRT. It will, of course, be hushed up and spun as positive news.
The return fare for the Cable Car is £10 while the Dart will be around £5.
The cable car carries around 1.3m passengers a year and normally runs at a loss without sponsorship.
My expectation is that with the huge debt mountain the Dart will also run at a loss and will be sold off below cost leaving the residents paying for the Dart for a generation or more with less dividends from LRT. It will, of course, be hushed up and spun as positive news.
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Looking at the recent delays, and due to lack of news from Luton, I thought I would look at yesterday's performance.
Between 0820 and 1720 yesterday (9 hours) there were 71 airline departures. One flight was cancelled (WZZ to LIS).
Two were delayed over 3 hours, WZZ to BUD (3:09), and T3 to IOM (3:36 due to aircraft change and replacement positioning in).
Four were delayed between 2 and 3 hours (all WZZ)
Eleven were delayed between 1 and 2 hours (WZZ, EZY, RYR DHL and XQ)
Fourteen departed within 15 minutes of scheduled time
The remaining 39 were delayed between 15 and 59 minutes.
Data from FR24
Between 0820 and 1720 yesterday (9 hours) there were 71 airline departures. One flight was cancelled (WZZ to LIS).
Two were delayed over 3 hours, WZZ to BUD (3:09), and T3 to IOM (3:36 due to aircraft change and replacement positioning in).
Four were delayed between 2 and 3 hours (all WZZ)
Eleven were delayed between 1 and 2 hours (WZZ, EZY, RYR DHL and XQ)
Fourteen departed within 15 minutes of scheduled time
The remaining 39 were delayed between 15 and 59 minutes.
Data from FR24
Looking at the recent delays, and due to lack of news from Luton, I thought I would look at yesterday's performance.
Between 0820 and 1720 yesterday (9 hours) there were 71 airline departures. One flight was cancelled (WZZ to LIS).
Two were delayed over 3 hours, WZZ to BUD (3:09), and T3 to IOM (3:36 due to aircraft change and replacement positioning in).
Four were delayed between 2 and 3 hours (all WZZ)
Eleven were delayed between 1 and 2 hours (WZZ, EZY, RYR DHL and XQ)
Fourteen departed within 15 minutes of scheduled time
The remaining 39 were delayed between 15 and 59 minutes.
Data from FR24
Between 0820 and 1720 yesterday (9 hours) there were 71 airline departures. One flight was cancelled (WZZ to LIS).
Two were delayed over 3 hours, WZZ to BUD (3:09), and T3 to IOM (3:36 due to aircraft change and replacement positioning in).
Four were delayed between 2 and 3 hours (all WZZ)
Eleven were delayed between 1 and 2 hours (WZZ, EZY, RYR DHL and XQ)
Fourteen departed within 15 minutes of scheduled time
The remaining 39 were delayed between 15 and 59 minutes.
Data from FR24
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Just a wild guess. I received a message from UK Power Networks at 7:03 that there was a local high voltage cable problem affecting local customers. As it was raining heavily maybe the standby generators for approaches had failed. The outage map covered the runway 25 end and all the approach lights.
I see several Easyjet flights are cancelled today.
I see several Easyjet flights are cancelled today.