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Old 14th Dec 2022, 21:17
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Not a good look for the airport. They really need to get on top of this.

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Old 15th Dec 2022, 08:33
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Sŗme old, same old, the trouble is an awful lot of people these days expect everything to run like clockwork 24hrs a day 365 days a year. It is winter in northern Europe, it snows we have ice etc. LCCs run a very tight ship and when things go belly up ie weather - which is not under their control - all hell breaks loose. UK airports are not really geared up for inclement weather - it costs money dear boy, we have got to think of the shareholders. Wizz do not have a very good good reputation to say the least regarding cancelled flights but surely it is up to the regulators to have word.
​​​​​Gone are the days when everybody rolled up their sleeves and tried to sort things out but it seems now it is not my problem.
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 21:11
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If this happens, book your FBO now!
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Old 18th Dec 2022, 18:41
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Luton-Sarajevo no longer showing on Wizz beyond end of March 2023
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Old 19th Dec 2022, 08:42
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I see the Doha party goers return today, must be second most popular route today excluding Geneva.
Well done to both teams, a classic football final.
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Old 20th Dec 2022, 20:57
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Had this been announced previously? https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...ed-by-wizz-air
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Old 23rd Dec 2022, 18:57
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I see a few Biz positioning flights are booked in for tomorrow, to cater for 25th no doubt. I assume FAB again closed 25th & 26th whereas BIG has limited opening on 26th.
New records for the scheduled carriers no doubt......
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Old 24th Dec 2022, 18:26
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I see a few Biz positioning flights are booked in for tomorrow, to cater for 25th no doubt. I assume FAB again closed 25th & 26th whereas BIG has limited opening on 26th.
New records for the scheduled carriers no doubt......
Around 80 departures tomorrow. Not exactly a quiet day. The poor staffÖ but thatís the aviation industry for you.
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Old 25th Dec 2022, 03:22
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Red face

People here at the airport are moaning that they have been forced to work Christmas Day. It is not only low pay why there is a recruitment crisis at airports when there are plenty of jobs around that allow for a work life balance. I would call people who fly today as being selfish and would be the first to complain if they had to work.

Bah humbug
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Old 25th Dec 2022, 06:06
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Not everybody in this world is a Christian, it is a 'normal' working day for half the world. There is even a TUI charter to Eilat today.
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Old 25th Dec 2022, 10:38
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Looks busy enough in France they are more religious than most of UK. Think you would have to work in Ireland to expect the day off.
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Old 25th Dec 2022, 18:08
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Originally Posted by Spanish eyes
People here at the airport are moaning that they have been forced to work Christmas Day. It is not only low pay why there is a recruitment crisis at airports when there are plenty of jobs around that allow for a work life balance. I would call people who fly today as being selfish and would be the first to complain if they had to work.

Bah humbug
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what a silly comment. Are people who use A&E selfish as Drs and Nurses are forced to work? How about people who rely on charities? Some people may have no other choice but to fly on Christmas Day. Doesnít make them selfish.
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Old 25th Dec 2022, 19:28
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what a silly comment. Are people who use A&E selfish as Drs and Nurses are forced to work? How about people who rely on charities? Some people may have no other choice but to fly on Christmas Day. Doesn’t make them selfish.
Was only probably 30 years ago most UK airports other than Heathrow were closed on Christmas day. Cant really compare it with emergency services, especially when you factor in all the bars,shops etc needed to support operating. An Airport shop is hardly an essential service. As to whether its unfair is personal opinion, I cant really imagine a situation where travel couldnt be put back or forward 24 Hrs, however its just part of the slow decline of Christmas nowadays . Wont be too many years before its just another standard bank holiday.
I guess if demand wasnt there the Airlines wouldnt operate
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Old 25th Dec 2022, 20:28
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It all centres around greed for big business and the slow collapse of uk values unless there is a strong trade union and everyone is a member.

I remember when supermarkets started to open on Sundays. Existing staff were promised enhanced payments while new staff would be on new contracts. So what happened? Existing staff were then encouraged to leave or sign up for flat rate pay by accepting one off payments.

We now have a situation at Luton where people are contracted to work 24/7 shift patterns including bank holidays for no extra pay. The whole situation sucks and adds to the town’s reputation for low paid jobs and in-work poverty.

When people moan that their luggage is delayed at 2 in the morning then tough. You should have paid more for your tickets because there is a staff shortage.
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Old 25th Dec 2022, 20:42
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Originally Posted by Spanish eyes
It all centres around greed for big business and the slow collapse of uk values unless there is a strong trade union and everyone is a member.

I remember when supermarkets started to open on Sundays. Existing staff were promised enhanced payments while new staff would be on new contracts. So what happened? Existing staff were then encouraged to leave or sign up for flat rate pay by accepting one off payments.

We now have a situation at Luton where people are contracted to work 24/7 shift patterns including bank holidays for no extra pay. The whole situation sucks and adds to the townís reputation for low paid jobs and in-work poverty.

When people moan that their luggage is delayed at 2 in the morning then tough. You should have paid more for your tickets because there is a staff shortage.
Thats not true though is it. Weíre not offered the choice to pay more. And often many of these companies have made more than enough profits to be able to pay their staff decently but chose not to. BA for example made huge profits precovid but paid out to shareholders while trying to cut their staff costs ever lower.

Itís also not a collapse of values. The UK is a Christian country in name only with a majority of people not following Christianity according to the 2021 Census. People should be free to work and travel on any day they want. If you want to celebrate a certain event then take leave the same as anyone else who wants to celebrate Hanukkah, Eid or their birthday.
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Old 26th Dec 2022, 11:51
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Thats not true though is it. Weíre not offered the choice to pay more. And often many of these companies have made more than enough profits to be able to pay their staff decently but chose not to. BA for example made huge profits precovid but paid out to shareholders while trying to cut their staff costs ever lower.

Itís also not a collapse of values. The UK is a Christian country in name only with a majority of people not following Christianity according to the 2021 Census. People should be free to work and travel on any day they want. If you want to celebrate a certain event then take leave the same as anyone else who wants to celebrate Hanukkah, Eid or their birthday.
Problem is if everyone wants the same annual leave its not manageable. Whilst i do agree that people should be free to travel whenever, where do you draw the line ? do we start expecting rail services to be available and local buses to get people to the airports as i imagine that will be next.
As an other point freedom to travel should be a right but does that include freedom to eat and shop at the airport. would people accept flights operating with nothing open at the airport itself
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Old 26th Dec 2022, 12:44
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Problem is if everyone wants the same annual leave its not manageable. Whilst i do agree that people should be free to travel whenever, where do you draw the line ? do we start expecting rail services to be available and local buses to get people to the airports as i imagine that will be next.
As an other point freedom to travel should be a right but does that include freedom to eat and shop at the airport. would people accept flights operating with nothing open at the airport itself
When people want the same annual leave it should be handled by existing Hr protocols. Most organisations have policies in place for how to handle requests. I know in my organisation itís done by first come first serve while my previous work place was done on a rota basis.

There is an argument for local trains and buses to run. Many people still have to get around and not everyone has a car but at least there are alternatives. I can take a cab on Christmas Day but I canít Uber to Sweden.

People already accept flights without airport services. There are flights departing late after shops etc have shut. Especially from smaller airports.
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Old 26th Dec 2022, 22:53
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The comparison with France is flawed, most of Europe celebrate on 24th with our Christmas Day on 25th not being so important. That is ultimately why there is a big Wizz schedule so Luton takes the brunt of it. Take the rough with the smooth and all that. Over at STN in contrast it is very quiet.

There have long been a few takers for Christmas Day travel to the sun but itís not a massive market or you would be seeing Jet2, Ryanair etc stepping up if there was big money to be made. Complaining nothing is open is a bit of a first world problem.
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Old 27th Dec 2022, 07:42
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.. most of Europe celebrate on 24th with our Christmas Day on 25th not being so important. That is ultimately why there is a big Wizz schedule so Luton takes the brunt of it.
Exactly. And on top of it some places (like Serbia, Macedonia, Georgia, Moldova etc) does not even have Christmas now but in two weeks per the Orthodox Calendar.
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Old 28th Dec 2022, 08:05
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A great piece of engineering with most of the cost already written off by its independent auditors, as there is zero chance of the debts being paid off.

The auditors are also still refusing to sign off the Council accounts, which haven’t been signed off for years due to the town’s airport. The Council has also refused to show how the borrowings for the Dart met the government’s requirements for taking out the loans by stating it was confidential. Even the Information Commissioners Office was sent packing when they tried to find out. The truth is that the loans didn’t meet government requirements, which is why most of the debt has been written off.

The Council owned LRT has been a total disaster for the town. Council loans to LRT, who have gifted millions of concession fees to the airport operator, has left the Council once again looking to savage Council spending while allowing the airport company to borrow unlimited sums of money from the Council.

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