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Sàme old, same old, the trouble is an awful lot of people these days expect everything to run like clockwork 24hrs a day 365 days a year. It is winter in northern Europe, it snows we have ice etc. LCCs run a very tight ship and when things go belly up ie weather - which is not under their control - all hell breaks loose. UK airports are not really geared up for inclement weather - it costs money dear boy, we have got to think of the shareholders. Wizz do not have a very good good reputation to say the least regarding cancelled flights but surely it is up to the regulators to have word.
Gone are the days when everybody rolled up their sleeves and tried to sort things out but it seems now it is not my problem.
Gone are the days when everybody rolled up their sleeves and tried to sort things out but it seems now it is not my problem.
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If this happens, book your FBO now!
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I see the Doha party goers return today, must be second most popular route today excluding Geneva.
Well done to both teams, a classic football final.
Well done to both teams, a classic football final.
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Had this been announced previously? https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...ed-by-wizz-air
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I see a few Biz positioning flights are booked in for tomorrow, to cater for 25th no doubt. I assume FAB again closed 25th & 26th whereas BIG has limited opening on 26th.
New records for the scheduled carriers no doubt......
New records for the scheduled carriers no doubt......
Around 80 departures tomorrow. Not exactly a quiet day. The poor staff… but that’s the aviation industry for you.
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People here at the airport are moaning that they have been forced to work Christmas Day. It is not only low pay why there is a recruitment crisis at airports when there are plenty of jobs around that allow for a work life balance. I would call people who fly today as being selfish and would be the first to complain if they had to work.
Bah humbug
Rant over.
Bah humbug
Rant over.
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People here at the airport are moaning that they have been forced to work Christmas Day. It is not only low pay why there is a recruitment crisis at airports when there are plenty of jobs around that allow for a work life balance. I would call people who fly today as being selfish and would be the first to complain if they had to work.
Bah humbug
Rant over.
Bah humbug
Rant over.
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I guess if demand wasnt there the Airlines wouldnt operate
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It all centres around greed for big business and the slow collapse of uk values unless there is a strong trade union and everyone is a member.
I remember when supermarkets started to open on Sundays. Existing staff were promised enhanced payments while new staff would be on new contracts. So what happened? Existing staff were then encouraged to leave or sign up for flat rate pay by accepting one off payments.
We now have a situation at Luton where people are contracted to work 24/7 shift patterns including bank holidays for no extra pay. The whole situation sucks and adds to the town’s reputation for low paid jobs and in-work poverty.
When people moan that their luggage is delayed at 2 in the morning then tough. You should have paid more for your tickets because there is a staff shortage.
I remember when supermarkets started to open on Sundays. Existing staff were promised enhanced payments while new staff would be on new contracts. So what happened? Existing staff were then encouraged to leave or sign up for flat rate pay by accepting one off payments.
We now have a situation at Luton where people are contracted to work 24/7 shift patterns including bank holidays for no extra pay. The whole situation sucks and adds to the town’s reputation for low paid jobs and in-work poverty.
When people moan that their luggage is delayed at 2 in the morning then tough. You should have paid more for your tickets because there is a staff shortage.
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It all centres around greed for big business and the slow collapse of uk values unless there is a strong trade union and everyone is a member.
I remember when supermarkets started to open on Sundays. Existing staff were promised enhanced payments while new staff would be on new contracts. So what happened? Existing staff were then encouraged to leave or sign up for flat rate pay by accepting one off payments.
We now have a situation at Luton where people are contracted to work 24/7 shift patterns including bank holidays for no extra pay. The whole situation sucks and adds to the town’s reputation for low paid jobs and in-work poverty.
When people moan that their luggage is delayed at 2 in the morning then tough. You should have paid more for your tickets because there is a staff shortage.
I remember when supermarkets started to open on Sundays. Existing staff were promised enhanced payments while new staff would be on new contracts. So what happened? Existing staff were then encouraged to leave or sign up for flat rate pay by accepting one off payments.
We now have a situation at Luton where people are contracted to work 24/7 shift patterns including bank holidays for no extra pay. The whole situation sucks and adds to the town’s reputation for low paid jobs and in-work poverty.
When people moan that their luggage is delayed at 2 in the morning then tough. You should have paid more for your tickets because there is a staff shortage.
It’s also not a collapse of values. The UK is a Christian country in name only with a majority of people not following Christianity according to the 2021 Census. People should be free to work and travel on any day they want. If you want to celebrate a certain event then take leave the same as anyone else who wants to celebrate Hanukkah, Eid or their birthday.
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Thats not true though is it. We’re not offered the choice to pay more. And often many of these companies have made more than enough profits to be able to pay their staff decently but chose not to. BA for example made huge profits precovid but paid out to shareholders while trying to cut their staff costs ever lower.
It’s also not a collapse of values. The UK is a Christian country in name only with a majority of people not following Christianity according to the 2021 Census. People should be free to work and travel on any day they want. If you want to celebrate a certain event then take leave the same as anyone else who wants to celebrate Hanukkah, Eid or their birthday.
It’s also not a collapse of values. The UK is a Christian country in name only with a majority of people not following Christianity according to the 2021 Census. People should be free to work and travel on any day they want. If you want to celebrate a certain event then take leave the same as anyone else who wants to celebrate Hanukkah, Eid or their birthday.
As an other point freedom to travel should be a right but does that include freedom to eat and shop at the airport. would people accept flights operating with nothing open at the airport itself
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Problem is if everyone wants the same annual leave its not manageable. Whilst i do agree that people should be free to travel whenever, where do you draw the line ? do we start expecting rail services to be available and local buses to get people to the airports as i imagine that will be next.
As an other point freedom to travel should be a right but does that include freedom to eat and shop at the airport. would people accept flights operating with nothing open at the airport itself
As an other point freedom to travel should be a right but does that include freedom to eat and shop at the airport. would people accept flights operating with nothing open at the airport itself
There is an argument for local trains and buses to run. Many people still have to get around and not everyone has a car but at least there are alternatives. I can take a cab on Christmas Day but I can’t Uber to Sweden.
People already accept flights without airport services. There are flights departing late after shops etc have shut. Especially from smaller airports.
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The comparison with France is flawed, most of Europe celebrate on 24th with our Christmas Day on 25th not being so important. That is ultimately why there is a big Wizz schedule so Luton takes the brunt of it. Take the rough with the smooth and all that. Over at STN in contrast it is very quiet.
There have long been a few takers for Christmas Day travel to the sun but it’s not a massive market or you would be seeing Jet2, Ryanair etc stepping up if there was big money to be made. Complaining nothing is open is a bit of a first world problem.
There have long been a few takers for Christmas Day travel to the sun but it’s not a massive market or you would be seeing Jet2, Ryanair etc stepping up if there was big money to be made. Complaining nothing is open is a bit of a first world problem.
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A great piece of engineering with most of the cost already written off by its independent auditors, as there is zero chance of the debts being paid off.
The auditors are also still refusing to sign off the Council accounts, which haven’t been signed off for years due to the town’s airport. The Council has also refused to show how the borrowings for the Dart met the government’s requirements for taking out the loans by stating it was confidential. Even the Information Commissioners Office was sent packing when they tried to find out. The truth is that the loans didn’t meet government requirements, which is why most of the debt has been written off.
The Council owned LRT has been a total disaster for the town. Council loans to LRT, who have gifted millions of concession fees to the airport operator, has left the Council once again looking to savage Council spending while allowing the airport company to borrow unlimited sums of money from the Council.
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The auditors are also still refusing to sign off the Council accounts, which haven’t been signed off for years due to the town’s airport. The Council has also refused to show how the borrowings for the Dart met the government’s requirements for taking out the loans by stating it was confidential. Even the Information Commissioners Office was sent packing when they tried to find out. The truth is that the loans didn’t meet government requirements, which is why most of the debt has been written off.
The Council owned LRT has been a total disaster for the town. Council loans to LRT, who have gifted millions of concession fees to the airport operator, has left the Council once again looking to savage Council spending while allowing the airport company to borrow unlimited sums of money from the Council.
New recap video
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