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Old 20th Nov 2022, 19:51
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Yes I have heard of a motor car and no doubt so have inbound passengers. It doesn’t necessarily mean they have access to one, which is the whole point of public transport.. Note sure why you need to be sarcastic to make a point.
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Old 20th Nov 2022, 20:08
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National Express are running almost full programme on 25th December from Airport to Central London so obviously they see the demand.
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Old 20th Nov 2022, 20:12
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Didn’t know that so thanks.

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Old 20th Nov 2022, 20:34
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More flights this year but demand has always been low with a near empty terminal for most of the day.

ElAl are the worst to handle as the passengers all pack the kitchen sink.
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Old 20th Nov 2022, 21:13
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Remarkable link. It shows 88 different ticket codes listed between Luton Airport Parkway and London St Pancras.
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A further QED on the barmpottyness of the modern railway fares structure.

hehehe - look at the same site for BHX airport (Birmingham International station) to London Euston => 303 results !!!

The point is, as before, unhelpful to everyone.

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Old 21st Nov 2022, 13:08
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Construction update

Parkway taken today in the rain while the airport photos were taken at the end of last week.

Spot the difference from the last update? There isn't one! Now spot the workers?


Looked like the Dart might have broken down in the rain, as it never moved.


Concrete for the new apron is being laid. Maybe taxiway Delta will reopen soon?


Looking in the other direction


General view


Can't afford to put the heat on? Then spend the day at the airport. It is good to know LLAOL is doing its bit to keep the town's pensioners warm with their heated shelters that are marked up as smokers shelters. Shame the pensioners don't know the airport has the outside heaters on. Meanwhile for the rest of us, the energy companies would like us to reduce demand to avoid blackouts.



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Old 21st Nov 2022, 19:42
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LRT is looking at forming a charitable foundation to attract external funding for its Community Funding Programme. This is what happens when airport spending gets out of control and they have got to try and pay the interest payments on its debts instead of funding good causes and paying dividends, which have been deferred.

The report interestingly mentions thresholds for green growth being reached in the future and limits to airport capacity. Hello 18m or 19m, maybe 21.5m but goodbye 32m or is it a case of hiding the truth regarding its debts, which are not mentioned?

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Old 29th Nov 2022, 14:13
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King Charles will be taking a ride on the Dart on December 6th. I expect King William will eventually open it.
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Grrr

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King Charles will be taking a ride on the Dart on December 6th. I expect King William will eventually open it.
I now have a mouthful of tea spread all over my PC monitor and keyboard!
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Old 30th Nov 2022, 06:26
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Looking at the logistics of King Charles’s visit I will make a few assumptions. His motorcade will be directed to the former Anderson Lee taxi rank at the airport, as that is the closest point to the Dart and to avoid parking in the bus bays. He will make a return journey on the Dart unless he brings his wellies. That the smiling council officials and councillors, who will be looking for a photo opportunity, will not mention that for every £4 spent on the Dart £3 has already been written off by the auditors.


Little does he know that he was entered into the Dart competition to voice the Dart announcements and was voted the winner. “Just speak into the microphone sir, we have written your speech”

“The next train departing platform one has cost the council taxpayers £281m and is expected to depart 2 years late”


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Old 30th Nov 2022, 10:42
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Looking at the logistics of King Charles’s visit I will make a few assumptions. His motorcade will be directed to the former Anderson Lee taxi rank at the airport, as that is the closest point to the Dart and to avoid parking in the bus bays. He will make a return journey on the Dart unless he brings his wellies. That the smiling council officials and councillors, who will be looking for a photo opportunity, will not mention that for every £4 spent on the Dart £3 has already been written off by the auditors.


Little does he know that he was entered into the Dart competition to voice the Dart announcements and was voted the winner. “Just speak into the microphone sir, we have written your speech”

“The next train departing platform one has cost the council taxpayers £281m and is expected to depart 2 years late”

LTNman, If I would have known about this competition when it was first conceived I would have put your name forward. You’re charismatic, always positive, and come across as always happy. Just think millions of people could have heard your recorded announcements that would be comforting for the nervous airline passenger and those business people anxious about their business meetings.in effect you would have set everyone up for the day including airport employees! Maybe next time?
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Old 30th Nov 2022, 11:27
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I can still maintain a sense of humour and can laugh at what is happening. I even find you as a bit of a comedian. Maybe we could do a double act?
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King Charles primary photo opportunities will be at the new Temple & Food Bank.
Perhaps promoting the DART for when he next visits Arab states and is trying to get UK investment into billion dollar projects building new mega airports with sums of money which make the DART a small change infrastructure investment. Perhaps all the greens should go and protest there and see how long they last!
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Old 30th Nov 2022, 21:02
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I thought I would share this photo with you all. I took this a couple of days ago and shows a station that is bigger than many U.K. airport terminals.

Out of sight is the building site but at least the building is all but finished.

As a side note I haven’t spotted a ticket office for rail passengers arriving from Kimpton Road.


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Old 1st Dec 2022, 00:13
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I thought I would share this photo with you all. I took this a couple of days ago and shows a station that is bigger than many U.K. airport terminals.

Out of sight is the building site but at least the building is all but finished.

As a side note I haven’t spotted a ticket office for rail passengers arriving from Kimpton Road.

Notice the signage appears somewhat below par.
On this side of the building, the illuminated sign Par of Parkway is dim. A similar sign on the opposite side of the building which greets those arriving by train from London, the Park of Parkway is in darkness. It hasn't even opened and the illuminations are failing. Not a problem for the King, as I can't imagine he will be arriving on Thameslink. A helicopter and Jaguar motorcade is more likely than arriving on an electrified railway with green credentials.
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Old 1st Dec 2022, 05:30
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It has to be said that I can’t think of an airport anywhere where the associated stations are posher and are built to a higher standard than the airport terminal they serve. One was built with public money while the other was built with private money, with the franchisee skimping and cutting back at every opportunity, as they didn’t own the asset.

Note the ceiling at Parkway. This is almost a copy of the ceiling of the new build at the terminal that was planned but not installed.


At the terminal station it is equally a swish affair. No idea who the lady is with the feather in the hat. Just maybe she is modelling the staff uniforms or will they continue to wear high viz jackets? Lol
Feathers often symbolize protection, love, the presence of guardian angels, the wind, your creator, and even your connection to your god. However, these meanings can shift and change depending entirely on who you are talking to.

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The nearest comparison is Birmingham’s drab affair but it has to be noted that their link is actually integrated into the terminal building.

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King Charles primary photo opportunities will be at the new Temple & Food Bank.!
The visit was planned long before King Charles became king He was meant to be officially opening the Dart by peeling back a curtain to reveal a nice plaque, which was the primary reason for his visit. The indefinite delay to the Dart meant those plans had to be quietly dropped, which has left egg on the faces of those that had allowed plenty of extra time for the Dart to open before the King arrived.

The view was it is better to have the king ride a train that has yet to open than have no king at all, so his trip was allowed to continue. I suspect the Palace said no to a new date.

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I've been to a few UK airport stations and although as you say the shuttle is rather drab the station at BHX is IMHO of similar standard to the terminal with retail outlets, cafe/bar and ATM's etc. and air conditioned too, I find it quite pleasant to wait there.
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Old 1st Dec 2022, 10:51
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"Dart Parkway" is now known locally as the "Kinnell Terminal" which may be a reference to the proposed fare structure.
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Old 1st Dec 2022, 11:27
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As a side note I haven’t spotted a ticket office for rail passengers arriving from Kimpton Roa
Are there ticket machines?. If the DfT have their way, there will no ticket offices anywhere. It isn't possible for some train operators to recruit them at present. Birmingham International station has no ticket office anymore.

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