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Old 28th Dec 2022, 21:52
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Whatís going on with the Wizz late evening departure wave these days?

Quite a few of the flights come in from their Central Eastern European bases on time, but end up leaving Luton 1-2 hours late. It seems to be like this for a few weeks now.
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Old 28th Dec 2022, 21:56
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Delays yesterday were explained to me by handling agent as lack of ramp crews. Seeing an A320 taxi right up to a gate, and then pax having to wait 1h15 for somebody to bring steps before pax could disembark and walk the 10 metres to the terminal (yes, all while gate staff were hanging around at the gate waiting to board pax) wasn't particularly impressive...
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Old 29th Dec 2022, 06:55
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The handling agent (GH London Ground Handling Services) only handles Wizz and like all handling agents won the contract by offering the lowest price contract. Until Wizz pays more money to GH and GH pass that money on to its staff rather than keeping it then expect more of the same as people won’t work for them. The airport doesn’t help as they see terminal staff as an income source and charges us to use the staff car park.

Wizz won’t pay more as the airline is facing bankruptcy despite its expansion with its losses increasing despite a good summer. The airlines need a good summer for the losses the winter brings. This year summer also brought losses so the winter will be grim.

I don’t understand why any passenger would fly Wizz. If they cancel the flight or if there are substantial delays they just keep the money.

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Old 29th Dec 2022, 07:06
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Totally agree Spanish eyes

wasn't particularly impressive...
Bet the flights were cheap, though!

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Old 29th Dec 2022, 08:07
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Originally Posted by Spanish eyes
Wizz wonít pay more as the airline is facing bankruptcy despite its expansion with its losses increasing despite a good summer. The airlines need a good summer for the losses the winter brings. This year summer also brought losses so the winter will be grim.

I donít understand why any passenger would fly Wizz. If they cancel the flight or if there are substantial delays they just keep the money
Wizz had a terrible 2022 summer... but they are still a fair distance away from bankruptcy.
Since the demise of Blue Air, and Ryanair pulling out of many Romanian routes, Wizz has a near-monopoly on nonstop flights between both London and also the of the UK and much of Romania (except Bucharest). I expect Wizz to seek market dominance between London and other areas of Eastern Europe... and for that to be reflected in contract terms with both customers and supplier.
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Old 29th Dec 2022, 08:28
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Wizz has a near-monopoly on nonstop flights between both London and also the of the UK and much of Romania (except Bucharest)
What proportion of the airlines operations does this cover?

and for that to be reflected in contract terms with both customers and supplier.
Not holding my breath on this one.

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Old 29th Dec 2022, 12:30
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Last accounts showed 37.8% market share in Romania but this was across whole network, not just UK.
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Wizzair are no way near Bankruptcy and in fact are in better shape than Easyjet having access to funds if needed.
Yes GH Handling need to get their act together otherwise they will loose the contract.
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Old 29th Dec 2022, 13:24
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Yes GH Handling need to get their act together otherwise they will loose the contract.
And what will change?
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Old 29th Dec 2022, 16:06
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Nothing, same problem whoever runs the contract. There are plenty of opportunities at other companies and careers. It is a low paid job doing unsociable hours. Says it on the tin.
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Old 29th Dec 2022, 18:58
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Two Flexflight 738s due from Bacau tomorrow, a FR24 error? As they are a charter outfit if they do run I assume handling by FBO.
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Old 30th Dec 2022, 14:42
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Yes GH Handling need to get their act together otherwise they will loose the contract.[/QUOTE]

In the past few months wizz have signed a new contract with G H so they must be doing something right
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Old 30th Dec 2022, 15:44
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Tunisair A319 diverted in this afternoon from Heathrow. Is that a first visit of the airline to Luton?
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Old 30th Dec 2022, 16:11
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No, both Tunisair 737’s and 727’s have been seen at Luton

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Old 30th Dec 2022, 17:04
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Originally Posted by crunchynutter
Yes GH Handling need to get their act together otherwise they will loose the contract.
In the past few months wizz have signed a new contract with G H so they must be doing something right
And Wizzair are not even listed as a main customer (unless you expand the search) on the GH Italia (Parent Company) web site whereas Easyjet, Ryanair along with alot of mainline airlines are. Perhaps just a Luton issue?
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Old 30th Dec 2022, 17:07
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Originally Posted by LTNman
No, both Tunisair 737ís and 727ís I have been seen at Luton
I think those were scheduled holiday charters rather than LHR overspill.
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Originally Posted by compton3bravo
Tunisair A319 diverted in this afternoon from Heathrow. Is that a first visit of the airline to Luton?
Assume STN were unable to handle for whatever reason, this flight operated into STN on a few days this month and is scheduled for a few more in early Jan. They are a regularly scheduled operator at STN in the summer season.
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Old 31st Dec 2022, 13:26
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With Flyr getting slots at LGW, that must end their ambitious for Luton.
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Old 31st Dec 2022, 17:00
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Luton was always going to be second or third choice. Clearly the pending opening of the Dart had no impact.
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Does the opening of the DART dictate runway slot availability then?
Going up against Norsk & Norwegian at LGW I'm sure is not what Flyr really wanted. A Luton route, they would have had the route to themselves at probally lower fuel & landing costs.
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Old 31st Dec 2022, 17:56
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There are slots available and this was just a small operation otherwise it is pointless building more stands. Also biz jets don’t seem to have a problem now.

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