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Old 12th Mar 2024, 07:24
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have to say that the press release announcing the above news is really disappointing. Has anybody proofread it?

Firstly, the release date is given as 03/11/2024. That is just wrong. We're in ENGLAND, not New Hampshire.

Secondly, my pet hate: rounded numbers! READERS CAN UNDERSTAND THE ACTUAL FIGURES!!! If the actual number of passengers handled in February was 1,900,000 precisely, then I will come back on here and post a humble apology. However, if the real number was something else, then can you please show your audience some respect and tell us the actual figure? We can't make meaningful historic comparisons with lazy incomplete numbers.

Finally, the press release reveals a new thrice-weekly Boeing 737 schedule to Casablanca with Royal Air Maroc. Great news. So good that it surely deserves a press release of its own?
Is the clue not in the term "press release"? Would this market want to know the exact number? BTW, the notice available through the media centre on the website is dated "11 March 2024" and also says "we have a few more announcements up our sleeves."

https://mediacentre.manchesterairpor...-term-getaway/


The full figures normally come out in a MAG press release covering all the group airports
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Why would the market NOT want to know the actual number? It's actually easier as well as more informative to write the actual number (nine characters including two commas) than a sentence of waffle quoting a number rounded to the nearest 100,000. Just include the facts. The readers can cope.
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Old 12th Mar 2024, 11:12
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Originally Posted by OzzyOzBorn
Why would the market NOT want to know the actual number? It's actually easier as well as more informative to write the actual number (nine characters including two commas) than a sentence of waffle quoting a number rounded to the nearest 100,000. Just include the facts. The readers can cope.
I think you credit your average Reach Group local newspaper journalist with rather more brain cells than they actually possess, and that is the level at which they are likely targeting the release. I'm sure that if a specialist travel or aviation journalist asked the press office they would gladly give them the precise figure.
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Old 12th Mar 2024, 11:14
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Depends who 'the market' is - many of these press releases will just be cut and paste into various publications, so they are written for that market not for those who want to crunch the numbers.
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Old 12th Mar 2024, 11:17
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Originally Posted by OzzyOzBorn
OK. So the press release headlining the February stats neglected to include the key figure. It was published on 3rd November 2024. And apparently unintentionally outed an unannounced scheduled service. That's all fine?

I thought that precision and attention to detail would matter more to an LAE.
I'm sure it does when they're mending aeroplanes, not so much on a bulletin board when someone spits their dummy out over trivial matters.
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Old 12th Mar 2024, 11:32
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February 2024

STN – 1,921,201 up 12.2%

MAN – 1,900,336 up 14.2%

EMA – 183,410 up 33.4%

Rolling 12m end 29.02.24

MAN – 28,500,310

STN - 28,299,735

EMA – 4,021,080
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Old 12th Mar 2024, 13:12
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Originally Posted by TURIN
I'm sure it does when they're mending aeroplanes, not so much on a bulletin board when someone spits their dummy out over trivial matters.
No dummy spat out here. I highlighted three avoidable deficiencies in the original press release. You deemed that a "rant" - but if you choose to read a post in angry voice mode, that is on you. It wasn't written that way.

Interpretation of what is trivial or not is purely subjective. My view is that a deficiency which has been pointed out can be addressed in next month's press release, such that the issue will not recur. It's called providing positive feedback, and responsible companies value that.
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Old 12th Mar 2024, 13:44
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Interpretation of what is trivial or not is purely subjective. My view is that a deficiency which has been pointed out can be addressed in next month's press release, such that the issue will not recur. It's called providing positive feedback, and responsible companies value that.
And I'm sure they are appreciative of you contacting them

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"we have a few more announcements up our sleeves."
You can tell it's the Manchester thread - if it was Gatwick there'd be list of 30 airlines by now...
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Old 12th Mar 2024, 14:32
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Originally Posted by OzzyOzBorn
No dummy spat out here. I highlighted three avoidable deficiencies in the original press release. You deemed that a "rant" - but if you choose to read a post in angry voice mode, that is on you. It wasn't written that way.

Interpretation of what is trivial or not is purely subjective. My view is that a deficiency which has been pointed out can be addressed in next month's press release, such that the issue will not recur. It's called providing positive feedback, and responsible companies value that.
Whatever, dude.
Bet you're great fun at parties.
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Life and soul, pal!!!
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Old 12th Mar 2024, 16:59
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Ozzy posts a lot of very well-informed responses, and. I am sorry that certain members feel that they have to denigrate his thoughts and comments.
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Old 12th Mar 2024, 19:57
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they always result in the popcorn coming out 😂
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Old 13th Mar 2024, 21:23
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@SPDTravels New route
While subject to final confirmations, Air China cargo intend to run a 2 weekly B77F flight to Manchester:
CA3147 CAN 0445 MAN 1050
CA3148 MAN 1320 PEK 0555+1
Tue and Sun Starts April 2nd 2024 if it goes ahead.
Thanks to Paul Clare for the info.
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Old 13th Mar 2024, 22:13
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eggc thankyou.
I heard about this a few weeks ago but dismissed it as another 'Thai Airways'.
Be good to see this freighter return. Good timing too, should be a few stands free by 11:00hrs.👍
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Old 13th Mar 2024, 23:13
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Exact same flights has been show at BHX for months but never turned up, so slots only.

We will see where it turns up !
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Old 14th Mar 2024, 10:38
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Originally Posted by eggc
@SPDTravels New route
While subject to final confirmations, Air China cargo intend to run a 2 weekly B77F flight to Manchester:
CA3147 CAN 0445 MAN 1050
CA3148 MAN 1320 PEK 0555+1
Tue and Sun Starts April 2nd 2024 if it goes ahead.
Thanks to Paul Clare for the info.
I suppose we are back to the point about the airline/handling agent acquiring equipment to load/unload the cargo deck on a wide body freighter at MAN - if this does appear then it won't be very busy just servicing a B777F twice a week. Then the question of whether other cargo operators could be tempted to MAN given that wide body freighters could now be handled?

Anyway, encouraging news if cargo operations do begin again at MAN.

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Old 14th Mar 2024, 12:01
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Originally Posted by JerseyAero
I suppose we are back to the point about the airline/handling agent acquiring equipment to load/unload the cargo deck on a wide body freighter at MAN.
SPD Travels also reports that it is believed that Air China are acquiring the loading equipment.
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Old 14th Mar 2024, 12:07
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Originally Posted by Curious Pax
SPD Travels also reports that it is believed that Air China are acquiring the loading equipment.
Thanks, yes I read that ... I wonder if they would make the equipment available to other cargo operators/handlers, if there was further interest from airlines in commencing operations at MAN ?
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Old 14th Mar 2024, 19:51
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Originally Posted by JerseyAero
Thanks, yes I read that ... I wonder if they would make the equipment available to other cargo operators/handlers, if there was further interest from airlines in commencing operations at MAN ?
Looks like BHX turned these flights away as too busy handling endless B744F's, a third airline operating this Saturday using YR-FSA
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Old 14th Mar 2024, 20:33
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Originally Posted by BHX5DME
Looks like BHX turned these flights away as too busy handling endless B744F's, a third airline operating this Saturday using YR-FSA
Why would BHX turn away Air China because they already handle a couple of B747s a week?

If you look at it from a route development perspective, there is a relationship to be built with Air China and surely the chances of pax ops down the line are increased.
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