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Runway capacity should not be a problem - although peak periods will be fully subscribed as one would expect. But terminal capacity and apron space presents a much sterner challenge. Expansion, in addition to ongoing new-for-old replacement, is needed.((/quote)
If runway slots are full subscribed at peak periods, isn't the challenge to attract airlines and flights at the quieter times of the day, which presumably would be with non-based a/c for the LCCs or foreign carriers? Based airlines, even if there was room for a couple more a/c for overnight parking, wouldn't want them idle until a runway slot was available after say 09.00, would they, if it caused issues for the rest of the day's scheduling?.
But I agree with Ozzy; the more immediate problem is apron space and terminal capacity.
Incidentally, is there any scope for increasing the max. number of movements when DRO in force?[/QUOTE]
The consensus elsewhere is that the new T2 can only do 35m.
If the last 12 month's comes in at say 29m we only need 2/3 good years at 10% growth for that terminal to then be full !!!
You can't rely on T3 because it already at bursting point at times and it's not suitable for intercontinental growth.
So what happens then ?
Dublin is a case in point albeit using different criteria.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/dublin-airport-global-airlines-threaten-to-pull-flights-in-row-over-passenger-cap/a1931580029.html
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Hi,
Can anyone help? does anyone know what's going on with Aer Lingus LH flights. Barbados was cancelled yesterday and MCO has a 4 hour delay. I am due to travel on Sunday to Barbados and is there a bigger problem with their flights.
Thanks in advance.
Can anyone help? does anyone know what's going on with Aer Lingus LH flights. Barbados was cancelled yesterday and MCO has a 4 hour delay. I am due to travel on Sunday to Barbados and is there a bigger problem with their flights.
Thanks in advance.
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And didn't they sell off some land for non-aviation related use?
Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyOzBorn
Runway capacity should not be a problem - although peak periods will be fully subscribed as one would expect. But terminal capacity and apron space presents a much sterner challenge. Expansion, in addition to ongoing new-for-old replacement, is needed.((/quote)
If runway slots are full subscribed at peak periods, isn't the challenge to attract airlines and flights at the quieter times of the day, which presumably would be with non-based a/c for the LCCs or foreign carriers? Based airlines, even if there was room for a couple more a/c for overnight parking, wouldn't want them idle until a runway slot was available after say 09.00, would they, if it caused issues for the rest of the day's scheduling?.
But I agree with Ozzy; the more immediate problem is apron space and terminal capacity.
Incidentally, is there any scope for increasing the max. number of movements when DRO in force?
Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyOzBorn
Runway capacity should not be a problem - although peak periods will be fully subscribed as one would expect. But terminal capacity and apron space presents a much sterner challenge. Expansion, in addition to ongoing new-for-old replacement, is needed.((/quote)
If runway slots are full subscribed at peak periods, isn't the challenge to attract airlines and flights at the quieter times of the day, which presumably would be with non-based a/c for the LCCs or foreign carriers? Based airlines, even if there was room for a couple more a/c for overnight parking, wouldn't want them idle until a runway slot was available after say 09.00, would they, if it caused issues for the rest of the day's scheduling?.
But I agree with Ozzy; the more immediate problem is apron space and terminal capacity.
Incidentally, is there any scope for increasing the max. number of movements when DRO in force?
If the last 12 month's comes in at say 29m we only need 2/3 good years at 10% growth for that terminal to then be full !!!
You can't rely on T3 because it already at bursting point at times and it's not suitable for intercontinental growth.
So what happens then ?
Dublin is a case in point albeit using different criteria.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/...931580029.html[/QUOTE]
How is Terminal capacity calculated? If it's 35m for T2, does it allow for peaks and quieter periods, or assume a steady flow throughout the day which we know doesn't happen?
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The consensus elsewhere is that the new T2 can only do 35m.
If the last 12 month's comes in at say 29m we only need 2/3 good years at 10% growth for that terminal to then be full !!!
You can't rely on T3 because it already at bursting point at times and it's not suitable for intercontinental growth.
So what happens then ?
Dublin is a case in point albeit using different criteria.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/...931580029.html
If the last 12 month's comes in at say 29m we only need 2/3 good years at 10% growth for that terminal to then be full !!!
You can't rely on T3 because it already at bursting point at times and it's not suitable for intercontinental growth.
So what happens then ?
Dublin is a case in point albeit using different criteria.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/...931580029.html
Meanwhile 5th Air India route from LGW whilst their Manchester slots wither on the vine....AGAIN!
The slots for departure after 09.00 are filling up rapidly as there are a good number of arrivals from Europe between 07.00 and 11.00 wirh Ryanair and Easyjet of which most are non based aircraft
Aircraft was damaged by ground equipment, probably in MCO. Damage found at MAN by engineers. Crew went out of hours before it was fixed.
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Indian authorities apparently want more passengers on direct flights than the many 000s using hubs like Dubai, Doha.
May be worth them having a word with Air India who by my estimation have applied then withdrawn slot requests for Manchester about 6 times now.
https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/air-india-riyadh-air-bosses-look-to-win-traffic-from-overseas-hubs/157157.article
Talking of more flights the current advertising in New York by VisitManchester the team tasked with "selling Manchester" , is absolutely abysmal. Its tirgid.
I recommend the parish track it down.
Pretty much any image off Instagram would show a world class city reminiscent of lower Manhattan or Shanghai , attractive, vibrant etc.... but what they have come up with is pitiful. Who on earth signed it off and where is the joined up thinking. If you are going to promote Manchester then you have to provide a link to the opportunities re sport, retail, food, nightlife and of course how to get there..
Sincerely hope MAG have had a word considering they have a direct interest.
May be worth them having a word with Air India who by my estimation have applied then withdrawn slot requests for Manchester about 6 times now.
https://www.flightglobal.com/airlines/air-india-riyadh-air-bosses-look-to-win-traffic-from-overseas-hubs/157157.article
Talking of more flights the current advertising in New York by VisitManchester the team tasked with "selling Manchester" , is absolutely abysmal. Its tirgid.
I recommend the parish track it down.
Pretty much any image off Instagram would show a world class city reminiscent of lower Manhattan or Shanghai , attractive, vibrant etc.... but what they have come up with is pitiful. Who on earth signed it off and where is the joined up thinking. If you are going to promote Manchester then you have to provide a link to the opportunities re sport, retail, food, nightlife and of course how to get there..
Sincerely hope MAG have had a word considering they have a direct interest.
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Feb results are out. The busiest February on record. Over 1.9m pax handled with 100% of them clearing security within 15 mins.
Also from SPD X feed...Royal Air Maroc to reintroduce its Casablanca-Manchester flight from 23rd June: AT818 CMN 1255 MAN 1635 AT819 MAN 1735 CMN 2120 Tue/Thu/Sun using B737. On sale soon.
Also from SPD X feed...Royal Air Maroc to reintroduce its Casablanca-Manchester flight from 23rd June: AT818 CMN 1255 MAN 1635 AT819 MAN 1735 CMN 2120 Tue/Thu/Sun using B737. On sale soon.
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I have to say that the press release announcing the above news is really disappointing. Has anybody proofread it?
Firstly, the release date is given as 03/11/2024. That is just wrong. We're in ENGLAND, not New Hampshire.
Secondly, my pet hate: rounded numbers! READERS CAN UNDERSTAND THE ACTUAL FIGURES!!! If the actual number of passengers handled in February was 1,900,000 precisely, then I will come back on here and post a humble apology. However, if the real number was something else, then can you please show your audience some respect and tell us the actual figure? We can't make meaningful historic comparisons with lazy incomplete numbers.
Finally, the press release reveals a new thrice-weekly Boeing 737 schedule to Casablanca with Royal Air Maroc. Great news. So good that it surely deserves a press release of its own?
Firstly, the release date is given as 03/11/2024. That is just wrong. We're in ENGLAND, not New Hampshire.
Secondly, my pet hate: rounded numbers! READERS CAN UNDERSTAND THE ACTUAL FIGURES!!! If the actual number of passengers handled in February was 1,900,000 precisely, then I will come back on here and post a humble apology. However, if the real number was something else, then can you please show your audience some respect and tell us the actual figure? We can't make meaningful historic comparisons with lazy incomplete numbers.
Finally, the press release reveals a new thrice-weekly Boeing 737 schedule to Casablanca with Royal Air Maroc. Great news. So good that it surely deserves a press release of its own?
I have to say that the press release announcing the above news is really disappointing. Has anybody proofread it?
Firstly, the release date is given as 03/11/2024. That is just wrong. We're in ENGLAND, not New Hampshire.
Secondly, my pet hate: rounded numbers! READERS CAN UNDERSTAND THE ACTUAL FIGURES!!! If the actual number of passengers handled in February was 1,900,000 precisely, then I will come back on here and post a humble apology. However, if the real number was something else, then can you please show your audience some respect and tell us the actual figure? We can't make meaningful historic comparisons with lazy incomplete numbers.
Finally, the press release reveals a new thrice-weekly Boeing 737 schedule to Casablanca with Royal Air Maroc. Great news. So good that it surely deserves a press release of its own?
Firstly, the release date is given as 03/11/2024. That is just wrong. We're in ENGLAND, not New Hampshire.
Secondly, my pet hate: rounded numbers! READERS CAN UNDERSTAND THE ACTUAL FIGURES!!! If the actual number of passengers handled in February was 1,900,000 precisely, then I will come back on here and post a humble apology. However, if the real number was something else, then can you please show your audience some respect and tell us the actual figure? We can't make meaningful historic comparisons with lazy incomplete numbers.
Finally, the press release reveals a new thrice-weekly Boeing 737 schedule to Casablanca with Royal Air Maroc. Great news. So good that it surely deserves a press release of its own?
OK. So the press release headlining the February stats neglected to include the key figure. It was published on 3rd November 2024. And apparently unintentionally outed an unannounced scheduled service. That's all fine?
I thought that precision and attention to detail would matter more to an LAE.
I thought that precision and attention to detail would matter more to an LAE.