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Old 12th May 2024, 14:04
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April 2024

STN – 2,480,894 up 5.5% - best ever April

MAN – 2,413,783 up 10.9% - best ever April

EMA – 327,972 up 5.0% - had 449k in 2008 !


12m rolling

MAN – 28,973,445 up 13.5% - 500k below best ever 12m figure – Sept 2019

STN – 28,643,725 up 10.8% - best ever 12m rolling figure

EMA – 4,093,017 up 20.6% - 860k below best ever 12m figure – Dec 2017
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Old 20th May 2024, 22:31
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Turkish Airlines began its fourth daily service yesterday (Sunday, May 19)
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Old 21st May 2024, 08:35
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The new Turkish Airlines flight is 4 days per week.
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Old 24th May 2024, 11:38
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Trip to Dublin

Had a trip to Dublin on Wednesday, out on the first Ryanair (0545), back on the last (2200 arrival), going out a dream, no queues at security, returned to Manchester and was outside terminal, 3 mins after getting off aircraft. Then it went downhill with quiet a bang, wife came off M56 at 2155 hrs to collect me, got to T3 pickup at 2305 !!, then it was past midnight before me made it past the roundabout onto the M56. From what I could see, the hold up was people trying to get into the collection point for T1. I have spoke to a couple of people and they advise that it is like that most nights. Something must be done, longer to get 300 yards than it was to fly from DUB-MAN.
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Old 24th May 2024, 16:31
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Had a trip to Dublin on Wednesday, out on the first Ryanair (0545), back on the last (2200 arrival), going out a dream, no queues at security, returned to Manchester and was outside terminal, 3 mins after getting off aircraft. Then it went downhill with quiet a bang, wife came off M56 at 2155 hrs to collect me, got to T3 pickup at 2305 !!, then it was past midnight before me made it past the roundabout onto the M56. From what I could see, the hold up was people trying to get into the collection point for T1. I have spoke to a couple of people and they advise that it is like that most nights. Something must be done, longer to get 300 yards than it was to fly from DUB-MAN.
Next time get the tram to Shadow Moss or Wythenshawe and meet up their.
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Old 29th May 2024, 18:32
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I see VS operated a 330 NEO on JFK today, was this a late sub?
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Old 29th May 2024, 21:30
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I see VS operated a 330 NEO on JFK today, was this a late sub?
I believe it was, due to a tech problem with the A330-300 which was assigned to the flight.
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Old 31st May 2024, 20:32
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Wide body frieght makes a MAN come back tomorrow with a EK 77F due in the morning. Twice weekly until at least October.
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Don't underestimate the significance of the arrival of Emirates Boeing 777F A6-EFN at MAN as UAE9940 this morning. This is the first time in a number of years that MAN has *welcomed* a pre-planned widebody whole-plane cargo scheduled service. It symbolises the official end of the 'scorched earth' policy pursued against such flights at MAN, enforced by the policies of the previous Group CEO. Lufthansa Cargo had held on well beyond other freight operators - not sure I could say they were 'welcomed' at MAN - more tolerated until sufficiently discouraged to leave. Even FedEx had to go, although a based ATR-72 was welcomed back earlier this year.

MAN has no pretensions to become a major hub for cargo flights; that was never on the agenda. But the airport should be able and willing to accommodate such services as are naturally drawn to this catchment. The 'low-hanging fruit', if you like. And the airport now finally once again hosts Hi-Lo equipment and staff trained to use it. Ramp space for widebody types is limited whilst the T2 build-out and taxiway enhancement works continue, but one hopes that this issue will ease incrementally over coming months. A couple of B777F's per day (or equivalent) should fall well within medium-term capabilities.

But today's arrival isn't just about cargo. It is symbolic of change more generally. There is a new culture about the place. Ken O' Toole as Group CEO does not appear minded to sustain the war on cargo. The draconian 'no spend' policies of yore have finally eased ... investment is about to be directed towards significantly enhancing the T3 passenger experience (at last!) with vacated space in T1 set to be annexed to support T3 passenger flows next year. The most prominent symbol of MAN's earlier malaise is also being tackled: some new travellators are being installed (memo to management: a few more would be very welcome!). The years-long debacle concerning mismanagement of MAN's hangars has been resolved. STS has gainfully occupied one of them, making a vital positive contribution to the local economy once again. The former Air Livery hangar is set to be adapted to serve Jet2 A321neo maintenance. Hallelujah! And Airport City proposals are being reinvigorated, with "Walter Mitty" deals now strictly off the agenda. Tough lessons learned, one hopes.

But the most noticeable change is in staff attitudes. There is some optimism about the place. Security is now robustly resourced and waiting times for passengers have been sustainably reduced. MAN is no longer "the airport that likes to say NO". The eternally rolled-over "no-divs NOTAM" has been consigned to the history books. The routes team are back at work and actively competing for new business ... MAN was way behind the curve bringing them back post-covid. And even on this forum, whenever mention was made regarding potential new services, some characters would routinely pop up posting that staff at MAN couldn't possibly cope with any new business. Good riddance to that culture of negativity. Maybe even the lamentable "Which?" magazine will notice the change eventually ... they're years behind reality.

Next year should see the full opening of new-look T2 and the introduction of measures to significantly improve the T3 passenger experience. Business is expanding, and management appear keen to see that happen. The dead-hand of overzealous penny-pinching flowing down from the top has gone. Nobody is demanding a spending spree, but fixing escalators / travellators / lavatories is pretty core. Sorting them is a good look. Lack of basic maintenance draws adverse attention very quickly.

I should be quite clear that the air of neglect and despair around MAN over the last decade arose from the 'no-spend' edicts of one senior figure who has finally handed over the reins. Throughout that period, MAN actually had some top notch managers at airport level (Ken O' Toole himself being one of these for a spell), though they could only work with the resources they were given. And policies such as discouraging cargo and general investment came from group level.

World events and global geopolitics remain an area of heightened concern, but at the level which is under local control, I'm the most optimistic I've been in years concerning MAN's future course. The dark clouds have cleared and the sun is breaking through. Sustainable investment to improve the customer experience appears to be the new ethos around the place. Long may it continue.

Welcome, A6-EFN. Harbinger of the new era!

PS. I'm never 100% satisfied. Can we announce a decent apron extension, please? And more stands needed for T3 use. Like ... really, really soon!!!
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Old 1st Jun 2024, 16:30
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Have you got RSI in your wrists after typing all that? 😁
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G-VNVR doing the honours for today’s inaugural MAN-LAS.
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Old 2nd Jun 2024, 20:35
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Oh dear ... there's still a lot of work to be done! Flew out of T1 last Monday end of afternoon. The first thing that I'd like to see 'managed' is the food area on the ground floor - absolutely filthy, and the state of the toilets at the entrance to the 'walk of shame' need cleaning more regularly.
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Old 2nd Jun 2024, 23:15
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Fair points. But hopefully the Terminal 1 experience in its present form will be no more in a few months from now. Most carriers will move across to newly-expanded T2, whilst some of the existing T1 infrastructure will be repurposed to support passenger flows using Terminal 3. Not long to wait now.
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Old 2nd Jun 2024, 23:48
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Precisely, there's virtually no point in investing in T1 facilitaties as it's being replaced by T2 and partly repurposed for T3. A few light touches here and there to see it to the end of it's life perhaps but nothing more.
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Old 3rd Jun 2024, 16:16
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Plans for T3

Does anyone know what the plans are for T3 and are FR staying there? It really is a poor experience now if you have to wait in deparures for any length of time. Always crowded and dirty, with uncollected cups and glasses in Nook for example. Surely even FR will want to provide customers with a better experience I would have thought.
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Old 3rd Jun 2024, 16:39
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Originally Posted by DomyDom
Does anyone know what the plans are for T3 and are FR staying there? It really is a poor experience now if you have to wait in deparures for any length of time. Always crowded and dirty, with uncollected cups and glasses in Nook for example. Surely even FR will want to provide customers with a better experience I would have thought.
None whatsoever. Cheap fares = little investment in facilities.
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Old 3rd Jun 2024, 17:46
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Precisely, there's virtually no point in investing in T1 facilitaties as it's being replaced by T2 and partly repurposed for T3. A few light touches here and there to see it to the end of it's life perhaps but nothing more.
There's no excuse though, for not keeping it clean.
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Old 6th Jun 2024, 15:14
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DHL preparing for a strike at MAN

easyJet are only offering their in-house groundhandlers at MAN 6% pay rise this year and have made working conditions even more difficult, resulting in a turned down payrise when ballotted and now a threat of strike. Word is that easyJet/DHL won't offer more and the strikes might happen as soon as next month. I wonder if this is across all of the bases where DHL ground handle easyJet or just MAN.
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Originally Posted by The96er
None whatsoever. Cheap fares = little investment in facilities.
You are obviously assuming by making this statement!
I suggest we wait for an official announcement by MAG/MAN, because given the fact that terminal 1 check in and security will be used for terminal 3 flights means more room will eventually be available in terminal 3!
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Originally Posted by DomyDom
Does anyone know what the plans are for T3 and are FR staying there? It really is a poor experience now if you have to wait in deparures for any length of time. Always crowded and dirty, with uncollected cups and glasses in Nook for example. Surely even FR will want to provide customers with a better experience I would have thought.
I don’t disagree completely but please be patient, changes are coming but things take time and investment.
Terminal 2 needs to fully reopen first and then go from there…





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