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'Basically just trolling'
That questionnaire I quoted dates back to 1994 so how could it be trolling, I wasn't even online then!!!
My love hate affair started back then when I had time to kill and wondered about thinking what a crap airport this is, over the time my feelings for the airport only got worse and realised not only is it crap but a dump!
I will never change my view of that.
BTW I have flown in and out of over 300 airports worldwide and for an airport that calls itself a London airport with over 10 million passengers a year it's a total embarrassment!
'Basically just trolling'
That questionnaire I quoted dates back to 1994 so how could it be trolling, I wasn't even online then!!!
My love hate affair started back then when I had time to kill and wondered about thinking what a crap airport this is, over the time my feelings for the airport only got worse and realised not only is it crap but a dump!
I will never change my view of that.
BTW I have flown in and out of over 300 airports worldwide and for an airport that calls itself a London airport with over 10 million passengers a year it's a total embarrassment!
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This is all getting somewhat childish now, not that I'm surprised in the least.
You can't call someone a TROLL just for having an opinion. Everyone on here has an equal right to criticize. Don't label someone a TROLL just because you can't take some criticism or disagree with their opinion. Disagree by all means, but don't act like spoilt teenagers and just accept the fact that not everyone here shares your love for Luton.
You can't call someone a TROLL just for having an opinion. Everyone on here has an equal right to criticize. Don't label someone a TROLL just because you can't take some criticism or disagree with their opinion. Disagree by all means, but don't act like spoilt teenagers and just accept the fact that not everyone here shares your love for Luton.
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I'm with Canberra on this one. Was based at LTN. Worst six months of my life.
It may be 'buzzing' but it's full to bursting point. The terminal is inadequate, gloomy, there's nowhere to sit, it's a long way to the gate along more gloomy walkways which feel like prefabs tied together. Security is carnage at first wave for pax and for crew.
Oh and that's once you actually make it to the terminal. Drive up for first wave and you need to queue in your car 10-15 minutes.
It has no flow nor structure to it. It is not intuitive. It is, and feels like numerous buildings joined together.
Operationally getting away is a nightmare as there's an armada of purple planes landing just as you're ready for departure and if you and the biz jets in front of you require full length then it's a long time until you get going.
Not for me.
It may be 'buzzing' but it's full to bursting point. The terminal is inadequate, gloomy, there's nowhere to sit, it's a long way to the gate along more gloomy walkways which feel like prefabs tied together. Security is carnage at first wave for pax and for crew.
Oh and that's once you actually make it to the terminal. Drive up for first wave and you need to queue in your car 10-15 minutes.
It has no flow nor structure to it. It is not intuitive. It is, and feels like numerous buildings joined together.
Operationally getting away is a nightmare as there's an armada of purple planes landing just as you're ready for departure and if you and the biz jets in front of you require full length then it's a long time until you get going.
Not for me.
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Lets all hope then that £100,000,000 makes a difference.
The taxiways are being lengthened so it should make a difference in reducing queues for takeoff
The taxiways are being lengthened so it should make a difference in reducing queues for takeoff
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Disagree by all means, but don't act like spoilt teenagers and just accept the fact that not everyone here shares your love for Luton.
t may be 'buzzing' but it's full to bursting point. The terminal is inadequate, gloomy, there's nowhere to sit, it's a long way to the gate along more gloomy walkways which feel like prefabs tied together. Security is carnage at first wave for pax and for crew.
Bulldoze it and start afresh with something more dignified and purpose built. That's what I'd do anyway.
This is getting tedious though so I digress. Enjoy the repetition.
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Have to say I am not a fan of LTN either - have used it probably about 15 times in the last 2 years. However I am only in it for a couple of hours before jetting off so am I really bothered by it enough to not use it?? No. However I will be very very happy when the roadworks are completed - it makes any departure around 9-10am a nuisance because if needing to use the airport checkin desks I seem to get caught up in the office worker rush hour and it's not pleasant.
LTN started off small, and has had everything built up around it over a number of years. A lot of it is in need of repair or replacement but Rome wasn't built in a day and it will get better.
It's great for them and for us paying passengers to have a bit of choice. I love Easyjet and the variety of routes as I love Monarch and Wizz (not Ryanair - I hate them!!) but a few other carriers to offer a selection of new routes is a welcome addition to the airport network.
LTN started off small, and has had everything built up around it over a number of years. A lot of it is in need of repair or replacement but Rome wasn't built in a day and it will get better.
It's great for them and for us paying passengers to have a bit of choice. I love Easyjet and the variety of routes as I love Monarch and Wizz (not Ryanair - I hate them!!) but a few other carriers to offer a selection of new routes is a welcome addition to the airport network.
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It's great for them and for us paying passengers to have a bit of choice.
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I think we should consider that LHR and LGW may not be options to some of us - and SEN no chance for me due to it's location. Anyway let's not get precious about the opinions of people who none of us really know. and get back track on something worthy of talking about.
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A little hard to see but that photo in the Telegraph shows Biz jets in the top, sides, bottom and corners of the photo. You can see why Luton is Number 1
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Constantly monitoring this site I had to bite my tongue with some of the latest derogatory comments, however 2015 brings Luton 10 new routes, increased services on current routes and an increase in EasyJet based aircraft.
In effect Luton should be exceeding 11 million passengers this year.
On my wish list and always remains my wish list is the runway being lengthened which I hope the current leaseholder will consider in the future. Looking at the topography I am sure the runway can be extended by 300 feet at runway 08 end, and 600 feet at runway 26 end (which might necessitate a new sloping area to be built) but that extra length could attract even more airlines and routes!
In effect Luton should be exceeding 11 million passengers this year.
On my wish list and always remains my wish list is the runway being lengthened which I hope the current leaseholder will consider in the future. Looking at the topography I am sure the runway can be extended by 300 feet at runway 08 end, and 600 feet at runway 26 end (which might necessitate a new sloping area to be built) but that extra length could attract even more airlines and routes!
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But some of those derogatory comments are justified which is why Luton comes bottom of the Which passenger survey. That is not going to change anytime soon and will no doubt get worse as numbers increase and building work kicks in.
Time will tell but unlike some of the stupid comments made here that no matter how much money is spent Luton will always be a dump and that Luton should be bulldozed does not add anything to their credibility.
Luton has no choice but to work within the existing CTA. Airports like Birmingham, Stansted and Southend had the space and land to in effect build new airports around existing runways and to abandon old terminals and CTA's
At the moment anyone looking at the frontage of the the terminal will see 4 distinct buildings. There is the original 1960's terminal, the 1980's frontage to the original terminal that once allowed buses to pass through it, the new terminal and the link building that is now the arrivals area and passenger hand luggage security area. The new work will basically add a fifth building in what is now the bus station but it will remove the disjointed appearance of all the other buildings and will look like a natural seamless continuation of the new terminal.
The Spanish owners have a proven history of airport redevelopment and while they have to work with what they have got I am sure their £100,000,000 is going to make a big difference despite what some of detractors hope.
Time will tell but unlike some of the stupid comments made here that no matter how much money is spent Luton will always be a dump and that Luton should be bulldozed does not add anything to their credibility.
Luton has no choice but to work within the existing CTA. Airports like Birmingham, Stansted and Southend had the space and land to in effect build new airports around existing runways and to abandon old terminals and CTA's
At the moment anyone looking at the frontage of the the terminal will see 4 distinct buildings. There is the original 1960's terminal, the 1980's frontage to the original terminal that once allowed buses to pass through it, the new terminal and the link building that is now the arrivals area and passenger hand luggage security area. The new work will basically add a fifth building in what is now the bus station but it will remove the disjointed appearance of all the other buildings and will look like a natural seamless continuation of the new terminal.
The Spanish owners have a proven history of airport redevelopment and while they have to work with what they have got I am sure their £100,000,000 is going to make a big difference despite what some of detractors hope.
Extending the runway is not going to happen anytime soon - and is not required, unless the profile of the airport changes radically (which it won't). It is not going to be a long haul airport. The owners don't want or need it to become a long haul airport. Long haul passengers are going to go to Heathrow and in most cases, needs a hub operation to make it profitable. The only case this doesn't happen are the niche routes operated by tour operators to the Caribbean etc. You can currently operate a full 767-300, which Thomson has done in the past, and obviously there is the odd ad hoc flight to Tel Aviv on the 777-200, with a reduced fuel payload.
Physically, London Luton is going to change radically over the next few years - patience is a virtue and really its become a victim of their own success.
Physically, London Luton is going to change radically over the next few years - patience is a virtue and really its become a victim of their own success.
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LeeBakerStreet, I too have often thought that a longer runway should be on Luton's wish list. In reality though, would an 8,000 ft runway make that much difference?
The airports core operations will continue to be European based routes with A319/A320/B737 types which operate perfectly well within the current runways constraints. I just wonder if the cost and upheavel in extending the runway to 8,000 ft would be justified and see other carriers with bigger jets coming in? I'm just not sure anymore what those routes/airlines might be?
The airports core operations will continue to be European based routes with A319/A320/B737 types which operate perfectly well within the current runways constraints. I just wonder if the cost and upheavel in extending the runway to 8,000 ft would be justified and see other carriers with bigger jets coming in? I'm just not sure anymore what those routes/airlines might be?
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The owners don't want or need it to become a long haul airport.
I would also say that in the long term they can achieve long haul flights without touching the runway length. Airliner capabilities will continue to improve. I could be wrong but if it was financially viable and worth it a 787 could use LTN without much if any restrictions for flights already couldnt they?