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Old 16th Nov 2014, 21:20
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I think the only realistic carrier left to operate IOM and Jersey is easyJet as part of their continued expansion...

However they have this pretty much sowed up from Gatwick, so could only imagine if they were to start the route it would be 3-4 times a week to each location.

Other than BMI Regional that has been mentioned previously, there are other regional airlines like CityJet, Links Air and City Wings...

The latter two carriers operate the 19 seater BAE Jetstream 31 into the IOM already, would the airport be interested in attracting a carrier operating this type of aircraft from Luton? Or is the airport focussing on airlines operating larger aircraft like Gatwick... From what I understand they charge a disproportionately high fee for the smaller aircraft, to keep these out and maximise the limited runway slots.
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Old 16th Nov 2014, 21:30
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Every fact about 2013 can be found here http://www.london-luton.co.uk/en/con...eport.html:ok:

Average passenger load in 2009 was 127. That has increased every year and is now 144.

Operator Movements %
EASYJET 32,348 45%
WIZZ AIR 17,185 24%
RYANAIR 9,331 13%
MONARCH AIRLINES 3,779 5%
THOMSON AIRWAYS 2,275 3%
BLUE AIR 966 1%
EUROPEAN AIR TRANSPORT 910 1%
ATLANTIC AIRLINES 615 1%
EL AL 588 1%
FLYBE 526 1%
Others 3,397 5%
Total 71,920 100%
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Old 17th Nov 2014, 15:05
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Oct Stats
945,744 +8.8%

Rolling year

10,361,598 +7.3%
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Old 18th Nov 2014, 20:30
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IOM and JER

Sadly Isle of Man and Jersey did remain as 'staple diet' to Luton's continued growth until last year and looking back over decades of service I still remain 'stunned' that it is no longer the case.

However Luton is on such a growth pattern that by 31st December this year it could achieve 10.45 million passengers for the year which is extraordinary!

Whilst the airport is 'currently' authorized to handle up to 18 million per year I hope it reaches it's true potential of 25 million!
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Old 19th Nov 2014, 05:00
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25 million? The terminal is modular and could be expanded towards the drop off area but the CTA can't be expanded. Can't see further expansion within the airports boundary.

No news yet about who has won the contract to expand the airport or a proper start date.
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Old 20th Nov 2014, 15:23
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I suppose you could make an excuse to replace the giant orange building with more terminal way in the future. Any ideas on its lease length? I am sure the airport could make it favourable for EZY to relocate hangars to somewhere else on the airfield. I dont think it is needed personally but nothing is impossible. Maybe long term they will purchas ZB engineering side or (lease on the other hangars) if things dont work out. It is all if buts and maybes though, Like I said I dont really see any need to worry about that right now.
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Old 20th Nov 2014, 15:41
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Is there a clear need for Easyjet to have their head office at Luton airport, either when the airport wants the space to expand operations (and some lease termination can be agreed commercially), or when the current lease expires ? I'm thinking 5 or 10 years from now, rather than in the short term.

Perhaps it would be feasible to keep a much smaller amount of office space to handle day-to-day operations relating strictly to Luton airport, and move the remaining staff to an office block somewhere else in or near Luton ?

While plenty of small airlines have their head office at an airport site, a sizeable number of major airlines seem to have their head office close to but not *at* one of their major airports.

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Old 20th Nov 2014, 16:29
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Story in the Luton News this week - the airport does have ambition to grow the airport to 26m, beyond the current development plan to 18m. It also seems to reaffirm easyJet's satisfaction to grow the airline at the airport well beyond its current levels.
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Old 20th Nov 2014, 17:25
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What would be great is if a regional airline like BMI Regional as an example, saw an opportunity to develop a small network from Luton but I can't really see that happening either, not with them or any other airline.
BD Reg. appear to be avoiding "London" airports at present.
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Old 20th Nov 2014, 18:01
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25 million passengers per year

Many times I have quoted 25 million passengers per year being the bench mark for Luton to aspire to.

Which takes me back to a previous entry by myself many months ago in which the former airport operator made no reference to a submission in relation to a new satellite building with between 15 and 18 stands to the east of the airfield.

That satellite connected by a tunnel (airport vehicles, passenger travelators) to the central area could be the key to the airports further growth and achieving the 25 million goal. In fact that satellite could be exclusively used by one airline!

In relation to the car park (currently there), the plans showed several multi-storey buildings each accommodating the same amount of cars at today's level.

In effect, any growth at the airport will not necessitate any further acquirement of land.
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Old 20th Nov 2014, 18:46
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I suppose you could make an excuse to replace the giant orange building with more terminal way in the future.
Can't really see any advantage in that. What would be the plan as the old departure lounge is being used as gates and no new stands would be created. If a land side terminal was built there, there would be no room on that side for a drop off area.
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Grrr

TUI H.Q. down the road at Wigmore.
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Old 21st Nov 2014, 04:59
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Even if easyjet did move out of their hangar. I can't see any situation where the hangar would be removed. The old departure lounge is never that busy so does not need expanding. For a start the easy hangar would make great hangar for Signature so they could get rid of their remote hangar with access issues over by cargo.

The main problem at the moment with the easy HQ is that their staff car park is around a mile away and is outside the airport so most staff have to catch a free bus to cover that mile which must be a real pain.

As for TUI they moved their UK HQ from London and not the airport. Britannia ops moved to Germany but no doubt some other Britannia staff found themselves in the TUI HQ just down the road.
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Old 21st Nov 2014, 23:05
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25 million passengers per year


25 million passengers per year
Not very likely if LGW gets a second rwy.
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Luton was bobbing around for years with yearly passenger figures below 2 million and had next to no scheduled services.

If someone had said in around 1990 that Luton would hit figures of over 10 million passengers with a 5 fold increase and all but 5% of them would be on scheduled services I think many posters here would have found that hard to believe.

Many things could happen over the years like a major increase in Ryanair activity or hourly services to many Eastern European countries by Wizz as millions more move to the UK for the good life.

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Old 22nd Nov 2014, 06:40
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I wouldn't say the good life more a better life, but great to see the airport busy in the winter months. Don't worry about the third runway at Heathrow or the second at Gatwick they will not be built - we are talking UK here - nothing gets done until its too late!
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Old 22nd Nov 2014, 13:34
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I wouldn't say the good life more a better life, but great to see the airport busy in the winter months. Don't worry about the third runway at Heathrow or the second at Gatwick they will not be built - we are talking UK here - nothing gets done until its too late!
1 or 2 more rwys at LHR will not impact on LTN, another at LGW will.
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 10:11
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How on earth would a second runway being built in crawley offering flights for the south of London and coastal areas impact majorly on Luton?

I can see the competition with STN for certain routes but Gatwick? If you could elaborate on your reasoning I would appreciate the view.

Not to mention by the time it gets done the world would have passed through an ice age and we would probably all have evolved wings of our own.
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 10:21
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I was thinking the same. Even Stansted with its spare capacity and now under MAG control does not appear to have affected Luton in the slightest.

I think next year Luton will be touching 12 million passengers and once the terminal is expanded easyJet could well drop all services from Stansted.

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Easyjet news

AFTER delivering record profits for the fourth year in a row, Luton-based easyJet expects the growth to continue, especially at their UK home.

A 20 per cent growth in passengers at Luton Airport is expected next year.

Sophie Dekkers, easyJet UK Director said: “We saw a one per cent increase in passengers at Luton last year and we expect an even bigger growth next year, with the new routes we are launching from Luton.”

They include the only UK airline offering direct flights to Moroccan holiday resort Essaouria, along with routes to Bodrum and Antalya in Turkey.

Ms Dekkers added: “As a result we will be expanding our Luton fleet from 15 to 18 planes and as a result we expect to see a passenger increase of around 20 per cent from Luton.

“We are excited to grow our partnership with the airport and have recently agreed a new 10-year infrastructure deal, showing our dedication to Luton.”

A new route from Luton to Porto will also start next year.

Read more: http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/Pas...#ixzz3JtEe57hE
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 15:09
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EasyJet and Luton are a great partnership. It's fitting that with 2015 marking the airlines 20th anniversary, that significant growth will be recorded from its home base from where those first flights to Edinburgh & Glasgiw began.
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