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Passed success with Silverjet?
Silverjet didn't last long so I wouldn't necessarily have called them a success!
I am afraid that this new venture will ultimately go the same way as Silverjet as well as Eos and Maxjet, LGW would have been a far better option then LTN if any success was to be made!
A year from now I can assure you they will no longer be flying LTN to EWR.
Silverjet didn't last long so I wouldn't necessarily have called them a success!
I am afraid that this new venture will ultimately go the same way as Silverjet as well as Eos and Maxjet, LGW would have been a far better option then LTN if any success was to be made!
A year from now I can assure you they will no longer be flying LTN to EWR.
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I can remember when easyjet was dismissed as a five minute wonder for picking Luton as its London base when they only had two leased aircraft to their name
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With all due respect Easyjet was a totally different concept from there humble beginnings compared to an all business class airline such as La Compagnie with only two aircraft along with two destinations and Luon making it three, they will never last the year lets face it, what do the offer that can't be had from traditional airlines currently serving the transatlantic business market.
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Always very easy to write off their prospects but compared to Silverjet they should have a much better chance of success.Fuel costs dropping , executive travel still on the rise evidently.
Will be interesting to see what is planned , schedule etc.
Could they be using a FBO instead of the terminal?
Time will tell
Will be interesting to see what is planned , schedule etc.
Could they be using a FBO instead of the terminal?
Time will tell
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If this news is true, this is brilliant news for the airport and the people who pulled this off need a pat on the back...
It will be as bigger challenge to secure the airline and route for the long term. Carriers like American, Virgin and British Airways are going to do all they can to ensure the route does not succeed. With probably a price war and increased incentives for regular business travellers.
La Compagnie will however probably be very successful with the wealthier leisure travellers.
It will be as bigger challenge to secure the airline and route for the long term. Carriers like American, Virgin and British Airways are going to do all they can to ensure the route does not succeed. With probably a price war and increased incentives for regular business travellers.
La Compagnie will however probably be very successful with the wealthier leisure travellers.
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Madness. It's been tried and failed three times in the past few years, it will fail again. The least they could've done is picked a respectable airport to operate from. I give it until Christmas.
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Eos, Maxjet and Silverjet were victims of a global recession, in fact Silverjet had just begun a service to Dubai. They had at a stroke, lost substantial clientele when the banks and major businesses cut back on flying budgets and staff.
canberra97, who knows what a year will bring? Pricing up a return from New York to Paris in August is £2500 for two adults and an under 11. Excellent value for 'lie flat' seats don't you think?
canberra97, who knows what a year will bring? Pricing up a return from New York to Paris in August is £2500 for two adults and an under 11. Excellent value for 'lie flat' seats don't you think?
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Silverjet was far more risky and likely to fail then this. Broken unreliable old 767-200s when the world was falling into financial meltdown.
Is this a risk, Sure it is.. but there are so many worse flights that have been started and failed this is NOT one of the more "crazy" ones. Infact I could see it working. Everybody expected Elal to be gone from Luton after a short spell. Nobody expected Easyjet to succeed at all. Claims Wizzair would always pack and leave for STN/LGW.
What kind of a ridiculous comment is this lol. What do you consider respectable, Maybe the airline is just being smart. Much cheaper fees, No doubt LTN gave them some incentives and perks to open up a flight to North America. LTN is a 30 minute drive to London, All the Executive flights that come through LTN seem to find it respectable enough. Just bizarre.
FUEL is cheap, British unemployment is way down, People have money to spend again. This isnt the time of Silverjet and Luton isnt some shanty town in the middle of nowhere. Get a grip.
Is this a risk, Sure it is.. but there are so many worse flights that have been started and failed this is NOT one of the more "crazy" ones. Infact I could see it working. Everybody expected Elal to be gone from Luton after a short spell. Nobody expected Easyjet to succeed at all. Claims Wizzair would always pack and leave for STN/LGW.
The least they could've done is picked a respectable airport to operate from.
FUEL is cheap, British unemployment is way down, People have money to spend again. This isnt the time of Silverjet and Luton isnt some shanty town in the middle of nowhere. Get a grip.
Every 7 or 10 years, when the economy is doing reasonably well, talk arises of setting up a new business class only airline. I definitely recall this happening ever since at least the 1990s. Inevitably when recession hit, these airlines felt plenty of pain.
Whether the idea's time has truly come is difficult to judge. I suspect BA running LCY-JFK have a much easier time than a very small airline will at LTN, LGW or STN.
The only thing I do know is that we are possibly now seeing investors being somewhat more (over ? )lenient with start up funds and the airline industry might be entering a phase of overcapacity which is viable only when the economy is healthy.
Whether the idea's time has truly come is difficult to judge. I suspect BA running LCY-JFK have a much easier time than a very small airline will at LTN, LGW or STN.
The only thing I do know is that we are possibly now seeing investors being somewhat more (over ? )lenient with start up funds and the airline industry might be entering a phase of overcapacity which is viable only when the economy is healthy.
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I'm just glad I appear to have broken this news to the aviation community as a whole :P but I wish them the best of luck, might not be easy but I think it can work
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No doubt it will be a tough start but Virgin started life with a single 747.
Upstairs and looking down on the departure lounge I am sure space was provided for two business lounges but only one ever opened.
There is another round the world tour leaving Harrods Luton terminal in March using probably another 757 so who is to say the main terminal will even be used.
Captain's Choice Tour takes you around the world in 22 DAYS by private jet | Daily Mail Online
Upstairs and looking down on the departure lounge I am sure space was provided for two business lounges but only one ever opened.
There is another round the world tour leaving Harrods Luton terminal in March using probably another 757 so who is to say the main terminal will even be used.
Captain's Choice Tour takes you around the world in 22 DAYS by private jet | Daily Mail Online
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Enjoy la Compagnie while it lasts! SilverJet, MAXJet and EOS didn't last. OpenSkies now has a three cabin service and anything long haul low cost just doesn't work. AirAsia X (Euro ops), Globespan, ZOOM, Oasis HKG. Mixing long haul low cost with a premium only service will not last.
The economy may be on the up but let's not blame the economy only for the airline failures. Shoddy business models which lack sustainability are what brought down many a airline. This la Compagnie will be no different.
I'd rather fly BA premium economy. Cheaper, many departure times, options when things go wrong, and marginally less comfortable than la Compagnie's mid 90s style business class.
As always happy to be proven wrong.
The economy may be on the up but let's not blame the economy only for the airline failures. Shoddy business models which lack sustainability are what brought down many a airline. This la Compagnie will be no different.
I'd rather fly BA premium economy. Cheaper, many departure times, options when things go wrong, and marginally less comfortable than la Compagnie's mid 90s style business class.
As always happy to be proven wrong.
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Silverjet had no one anywhere near the calibur of the Rothschild group invested in their success.
Indeed, sorry I didnt even notice anyone else mention it.
With the backing of the Rothschild Group, this maybe a success!
Interesting who will handle these flights.
Interesting who will handle these flights.
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Everybody expected Elal to be gone from Luton after a short spell. Nobody expected Easyjet to succeed at all. Claims Wizzair would always pack and leave for STN/LGW
This is completely different, it's been proven to fail in the past. The only way this could possibly work would be from LHR or, at very least, LGW.
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Oh please. Nobody expected any of that. North London is home to one of the largest Jewish communities in the UK, Wizzair were never going to leave an airport surrounded by Eastern European communities and easyJet's rise to one of Europe's most popular carriers may have it's roots at LTN, but has been driven in recent times predominantly by it's Gatwick ops.
This is completely different, it's been proven to fail in the past. The only way this could possibly work would be from LHR or, at very least, LGW.
This is completely different, it's been proven to fail in the past. The only way this could possibly work would be from LHR or, at very least, LGW.
No doubt you have done some kind of deep statistical analysis and ran the numbers over and over again to know why this specific kind of operation would work from LGW but not LTN. I mean you seem to have some data that the Rothschild group are ignoring.
Feel free to enlighten me..
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StevieW has hit the nail on the head. El Al and Wizz are only successful at Luton because of local communities including North London and La Compagnie will fail because North London, Herts, Beds and Bucks only have poor people and skint companies.
If La Compagnie does fail then so be it as I am sure no one here will lose any sleep over it be we hope for success.
If La Compagnie does fail then so be it as I am sure no one here will lose any sleep over it be we hope for success.
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North London, Herts, Beds and Bucks only have poor people and skint companies
"Skint" companies probably include GM (Luton), Mercedes (MK), Whitbread (Luton), GSK & Astrium (Stevenage) and literally thousands of others.
The wealthy don't always flaunt it - they come to LTN in their droves on board business jets but we don't necessarily know who they are......
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La Compagnie
However long La Compagnie last at LTN, the airport deserves credit for persuading them to choose LTN over STN or LGW.
The executive jet business has no problems using LTN so why should LTN be less attractive to an all business class operation? LTN must have worked hard to come up with an offer which the airline felt delivered something better for it and its passengers than anything STN or LGW could offer.
I for one welcome the news and wish them every success.
The executive jet business has no problems using LTN so why should LTN be less attractive to an all business class operation? LTN must have worked hard to come up with an offer which the airline felt delivered something better for it and its passengers than anything STN or LGW could offer.
I for one welcome the news and wish them every success.