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Brad The Impaler
I'm a little confused, why do you remain with a company that pays you a wage if you you feel so negative towards it?? Also, it's apparent that the majority of your posts (if not all) have been factually incorrect.
Maybe it's time you moved on....
I'm a little confused, why do you remain with a company that pays you a wage if you you feel so negative towards it?? Also, it's apparent that the majority of your posts (if not all) have been factually incorrect.
Maybe it's time you moved on....
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Perhaps you would be kind enough to indicate where I have been factually incorrect and to let us all know the correct facts please. If I have made any substantiated factual errors I will be happy to correct them, however I think you would be hard pressed to provide any information to corroborate your version as you are not in the same position as I nor privvy to the same information. The matter of my employment is my business, however I will state that I am perfectly happy here and see no need to move on.
Perhaps you would be kind enough to indicate where I have been factually incorrect and to let us all know the correct facts please. If I have made any substantiated factual errors I will be happy to correct them, however I think you would be hard pressed to provide any information to corroborate your version as you are not in the same position as I nor privvy to the same information. The matter of my employment is my business, however I will state that I am perfectly happy here and see no need to move on.
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OK. guys. Let us stop this slanging match.
A few posts that have been deleted have actually been deleted by the poster. Something some others might have done before clicking on the submit button.
Get this thread on an interesting track or it will be closed.
We have the tools to insist on it btw.
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A few posts that have been deleted have actually been deleted by the poster. Something some others might have done before clicking on the submit button.
Get this thread on an interesting track or it will be closed.
We have the tools to insist on it btw.
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Everything has gone very quiet again, I was hoping to see at least one more destination for Summer 08 appear on the Jet 2 website this week.
Incidentally, Jet 2 announced that it would be using other airlines to expand its Jet2 Holidays programme outside of its own list of destinations.
Incidentally, Jet 2 announced that it would be using other airlines to expand its Jet2 Holidays programme outside of its own list of destinations.
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Jet2 are most likely using other airlines as they don't have enough aircraft and resources in the current fleet.
Pilot and Cabin crew recruitment is very heavy at the moment. Jet2 will be hiring an additional 55 - 60 cabin crew for S08 in NCL alone.
(Applications may be sent in now by the way!)
Pilot and Engineering recruitment is high too, with adverts on the website and in Flight International (02-08 Oct).
The biggest problem is getting hold of reasonably priced and well maintained aircraft. The 2nd hand price for a half decent 757 has gone trough the roof since UPS announced that it wants to buy and convert around 100 into a Cargo fit.
Not sure on the availabilty of 767's at the moment though ............
Pilot and Cabin crew recruitment is very heavy at the moment. Jet2 will be hiring an additional 55 - 60 cabin crew for S08 in NCL alone.
(Applications may be sent in now by the way!)Pilot and Engineering recruitment is high too, with adverts on the website and in Flight International (02-08 Oct).
The biggest problem is getting hold of reasonably priced and well maintained aircraft. The 2nd hand price for a half decent 757 has gone trough the roof since UPS announced that it wants to buy and convert around 100 into a Cargo fit.
Not sure on the availabilty of 767's at the moment though ............
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When LS announce the launch of BLK-LGW I think EZY will come in. They already are expanding at the airport (LGW), what is to say they can't launch more? They would be easily able to hold a STN & LGW service.
Looks pretty weak for LS at NCL on the LGW route. They only carried 7065 passengers in AUG and when you are operating three return 733 flights per day surely you have to call it a day on the route! FR carried and average of 11,000 per month on the BLK-LGW route so a twice daily route is easily possible with the 148 seater 733.
Looks pretty weak for LS at NCL on the LGW route. They only carried 7065 passengers in AUG and when you are operating three return 733 flights per day surely you have to call it a day on the route! FR carried and average of 11,000 per month on the BLK-LGW route so a twice daily route is easily possible with the 148 seater 733.
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Bit confused by your post. I think your sugesting that LS will drop NCL-LGW and do BLK-LGW instead. Well to drop the NCL-LGW would not surprise anyone with the dissapointing figures.
However not sure if Easyjet would take the route over as they are making big cutbacks on the NCL- STN route and I dont think they would do much better on the LGW than LS.
BA had much better figures on that route due to the through connections available, something not possible with LS and I dont think would be available with Easyjet?.
Whats the rumour about BA coming back on the route.
Any more about LS summer 2008 routes?.
Bit confused by your post. I think your sugesting that LS will drop NCL-LGW and do BLK-LGW instead. Well to drop the NCL-LGW would not surprise anyone with the dissapointing figures.
However not sure if Easyjet would take the route over as they are making big cutbacks on the NCL- STN route and I dont think they would do much better on the LGW than LS.
BA had much better figures on that route due to the through connections available, something not possible with LS and I dont think would be available with Easyjet?.
Whats the rumour about BA coming back on the route.
Any more about LS summer 2008 routes?.
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If Jet2 drop LGW and its not certain they will, although the actual pax figures have been low I believe the yield from those pax is quite good, then can't see EZY stepping in. I personally believe that given the constant bashing of the airline industry by the green loby and the Tory party any expansion from the sector if going to be in mainland Europe. In Europe airlines can continue to expand without the fear of petty taxes been imposed in a vain attempt to prevent expansion. I cant see much scope for expansion of european routes let alone domestic routes from airports such as Newcastle.
MUFC fan - presumably you mean when FR op BLK-STN? Don't think they've ever op BLK-LGW??
LS dropped LGW-MAN for NCL-LGW and FR dropped STN-BLK - both presumably because they thought they could make money.
How does this show that A) LS are to drop NCL-LGW, and B) that LS could make more money on BLK-LGW?
If FR can't make BLK-STN pay and LS can't make MAN-LGW and NCL-LGW pay, what makes you think BLK-LGW is a winner?
LS dropped LGW-MAN for NCL-LGW and FR dropped STN-BLK - both presumably because they thought they could make money.
How does this show that A) LS are to drop NCL-LGW, and B) that LS could make more money on BLK-LGW?
If FR can't make BLK-STN pay and LS can't make MAN-LGW and NCL-LGW pay, what makes you think BLK-LGW is a winner?
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BLK-STN was a winner before.
The problems that occured were that the return flight in the evening was too late for the main type of passenger - business travellers.
A) The MAN-LGW figures were better than the current NCL-LGW figures and LS were quick to pull that route.
B) LS would have no competition on the LON route unlike at MAN and NCL where BA fly plus BMI, VLM, AB, VLM etc.
C) LS make a profit on the BLK-BFS route which averages at 65% on the load factor. If LS were to carry similar numbers on an LGW flight as FR did on the STN then it would average at about 70% per flight.
NCL may stay as the LGW destination but what are LS going to do if the NCL is pulled? Give up their great slot times at LGW?
They are going to do something with them - who knows, maybe LBA-LGW! EDI and BFS are already heavily served from LON with BA, EI, BE, BMI, FR, EZY, AB(for now) AF etc. so there are two options - fight BMI at LBA or take BLK which is scouting an airline for the route?
The problems that occured were that the return flight in the evening was too late for the main type of passenger - business travellers.
A) The MAN-LGW figures were better than the current NCL-LGW figures and LS were quick to pull that route.
B) LS would have no competition on the LON route unlike at MAN and NCL where BA fly plus BMI, VLM, AB, VLM etc.
C) LS make a profit on the BLK-BFS route which averages at 65% on the load factor. If LS were to carry similar numbers on an LGW flight as FR did on the STN then it would average at about 70% per flight.
NCL may stay as the LGW destination but what are LS going to do if the NCL is pulled? Give up their great slot times at LGW?
They are going to do something with them - who knows, maybe LBA-LGW! EDI and BFS are already heavily served from LON with BA, EI, BE, BMI, FR, EZY, AB(for now) AF etc. so there are two options - fight BMI at LBA or take BLK which is scouting an airline for the route?
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MUFC FAN - complete tosh BLK STN was never a winner or FR would not have pulled it. As I have said before quoting pax figures on the NCL - LGW route but more to do with the yield these pax produce and as I undertsand it they are happy with the yield on this route.
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I think this shoudl all be moved to the Jet2 forum - not NEWCASTLE!
Having operated a few LGW flights this month I have been suprised, the other weeks sunday LGW service has a pax figure of 110. Last week the my lowest pax figure was 46, that was 1 sector, alll the others where 70+ so thats showing signs of improvement as last time I did LGW sectors a few months ago it was only in the 40's.
I think people are seeing that Jet2 are commited to the LGW service, if there is any problem with an aircraft or delays rather than cancel it like many of our competitors would, we have subbed in the 757 so minimise and disruption. I know that the LGW has low pax figures but they do have good yield on it so i dont think its going to go anywhere soon, the only change I would see would maybe be dropping down to a morning and tea time service only, but that lunchtime inbound is getting busy as well!
Having operated a few LGW flights this month I have been suprised, the other weeks sunday LGW service has a pax figure of 110. Last week the my lowest pax figure was 46, that was 1 sector, alll the others where 70+ so thats showing signs of improvement as last time I did LGW sectors a few months ago it was only in the 40's.
I think people are seeing that Jet2 are commited to the LGW service, if there is any problem with an aircraft or delays rather than cancel it like many of our competitors would, we have subbed in the 757 so minimise and disruption. I know that the LGW has low pax figures but they do have good yield on it so i dont think its going to go anywhere soon, the only change I would see would maybe be dropping down to a morning and tea time service only, but that lunchtime inbound is getting busy as well!
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Could it be that passengers who are connecting into LH flights are being progressively put off transiting through LHR/LGW and increasingly STN due to overcrowding, terminal changes and slow security.
I booked a holiday today to Sint Maarten and had the choice of NCL/LGW/SXM using VS via Barbados or NCL/AMS/SXM using KL throughout. The price difference was negligible so its AMS for me. It is a much more pleasant airport to transit through and 1 carrier throughout appeals too.
I booked a holiday today to Sint Maarten and had the choice of NCL/LGW/SXM using VS via Barbados or NCL/AMS/SXM using KL throughout. The price difference was negligible so its AMS for me. It is a much more pleasant airport to transit through and 1 carrier throughout appeals too.