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Surely [F] precisely describes the regular long queues that people have been describing as the result of the new traffic lights. Although an individual motorist may only be stuck there for a limited period, there is surely enough evidence of "significant numbers of people being present at the site on a regular basis".
It would seem, therefore, that LBC has breached its own planning rules in granting permission for the installation of the lights - doesn't it?
It would seem, therefore, that LBC has breached its own planning rules in granting permission for the installation of the lights - doesn't it?
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Heyho, sure no-one will take them to court over it 
Should be alot more pain this weekend....
Should be alot more pain this weekend....
"There will be major road closures this weekend while one of the final stages of work between Luton Airport and the M1 is carried out.
Work on the East Luton Corridor project means the Vauxhall Way roundabout will be closed from 10pm on Friday, March 6, until 3am on Monday, March 9.
Also closed over the weekend will be Kimpton Road, the A505 Airport Way from Vauxhall Way to the Eaton Green roundabout, and the old Airport Way road leading to the Holiday Inn.
Diversion routes will be signposted and include:
Work on the East Luton Corridor project means the Vauxhall Way roundabout will be closed from 10pm on Friday, March 6, until 3am on Monday, March 9.
Also closed over the weekend will be Kimpton Road, the A505 Airport Way from Vauxhall Way to the Eaton Green roundabout, and the old Airport Way road leading to the Holiday Inn.
Diversion routes will be signposted and include:
- Stopsley to the M1 via Crawley Green Road, Windmill Lane and Gipsy Lane.
- Stopsley to the airport via Eaton Green Road, Frank Lester Way and Percival Way.
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Nice try, but no cigar
According to the DfT Circular 1/2002 which is the Gospel for Public Safety Zones :
And perhaps the same level of care might be exercised in framing LBC's policies in this area?
"Careful attention should also be given to the location of major road junctions and to related features such as traffic lights and roundabouts which may lead to an increase in the number of stationary vehicles within a Zone". This guidance applies even in the somewhat less-hazardous 1:100,000 zone.
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I'm no planner but expanding that quote from the document, this is a Government funded scheme, did they not have any say in the Planning Application & where their money was being spent? I would have thought the scheme was approved on it's own 'merits'.
"The planning of new transport links requires careful consideration. Although people passing along a transport route are likely to be within the Public Safety Zone for only a very small part of the day, the average density of occupation within the Zone may be significant, and as high as that for fixed development. Individual schemes should therefore be considered on their merits. Proposals for major roads and motorways should be carefully assessed in terms of the average density of people that might be expected to be exposed to risk. Careful attention should also be given to the location of major road junctions and to related features such as traffic lights and roundabouts which may lead to an increase in the number of stationary vehicles within a Zone."
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Work seems to have started on the Ocean Sky facility. The close-boarded metal fences that surrounded the Harrods buildings have gone, and workmen are on site. If the men have been redeployed from the ELC, expect completion at some point after my driving licence expires
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Hum.....once again! In this climate?
The return of business-class only
London’s Luton airport may once again see all-business-class flights as BWAA prepares to start services this year.
BWAA, which stands for British West African Airways, plans to fly between London Luton and Nigeria, where it’s based, according to a source. The carrier will take over Silverjet’s private terminal, which has stoody largely empty since business-class only carrier Silverjet went bust in June last year.
BWAA’s proposal comes at an interesting time, with mainline carriers like British Airways and Virgin Atlantic struggling to fill their premium seats amid a worsening UK and US recession. British Airways’ premium traffic, which includes business- and first-class, dropped 20 per cent last month, for instance, and both airlines are trimming capacity to keep pace with lower demand.
Silverjet was part of a wave of first- and business-class only airlines that began operating between 2005 and 2007, at the height of the financial boom. The airlines, which also included MAXJet and Eos, aimed to offer first- or business-class equivalent tickets for roughly a third of what British Airways and Virgin Atlantic charged for them, operating from secondary London airports like Luton and Stansted to keep costs low and avoid the congestion at London Heathrow.
The services proved popular with customers, but the carriers were unable to produce enough earnings to survive amid record fuel prices at the time and competition from mainline airlines. A deepening credit crunch also meant they were unable to secure new sources of funding. MAXJet declared bankruptcy on Christmas Eve 2007, and was followed by Eos in April 2008 and Silverjet in June.
Since then, British Airways has been the only carrier to dip its toes into the premium-only segment in the UK, planning to start business-class only flights between London City airport and the US later this year. BA’s OpenSkies subsidiary already operates premium-only services between Paris, Amsterdam and the US, having taken over L’Avion, the last of the independent European business-class only carriers in July last year.
Silverjet was the sole business-class only carrier to offer its own private terminal to passengers. Customers were ferried to the lounge in Silverjet’s signature cabs, once there enjoying private check-in, an open bar and a selection of meals and snacks, before boarding. Silverjet operated a fleet of three Boeing 767s, fitted with 100 flatbed-seats, less than half the usual capacity.
BWAA plans to operate three Boeing Co. 757s, the source said. London Luton’s marketing director Natalie Raper confirmed the airport is “in discussions” with BWAA, and more detail will likely be forthcoming later this week.
London’s Luton airport may once again see all-business-class flights as BWAA prepares to start services this year.
BWAA, which stands for British West African Airways, plans to fly between London Luton and Nigeria, where it’s based, according to a source. The carrier will take over Silverjet’s private terminal, which has stoody largely empty since business-class only carrier Silverjet went bust in June last year.
BWAA’s proposal comes at an interesting time, with mainline carriers like British Airways and Virgin Atlantic struggling to fill their premium seats amid a worsening UK and US recession. British Airways’ premium traffic, which includes business- and first-class, dropped 20 per cent last month, for instance, and both airlines are trimming capacity to keep pace with lower demand.
Silverjet was part of a wave of first- and business-class only airlines that began operating between 2005 and 2007, at the height of the financial boom. The airlines, which also included MAXJet and Eos, aimed to offer first- or business-class equivalent tickets for roughly a third of what British Airways and Virgin Atlantic charged for them, operating from secondary London airports like Luton and Stansted to keep costs low and avoid the congestion at London Heathrow.
The services proved popular with customers, but the carriers were unable to produce enough earnings to survive amid record fuel prices at the time and competition from mainline airlines. A deepening credit crunch also meant they were unable to secure new sources of funding. MAXJet declared bankruptcy on Christmas Eve 2007, and was followed by Eos in April 2008 and Silverjet in June.
Since then, British Airways has been the only carrier to dip its toes into the premium-only segment in the UK, planning to start business-class only flights between London City airport and the US later this year. BA’s OpenSkies subsidiary already operates premium-only services between Paris, Amsterdam and the US, having taken over L’Avion, the last of the independent European business-class only carriers in July last year.
Silverjet was the sole business-class only carrier to offer its own private terminal to passengers. Customers were ferried to the lounge in Silverjet’s signature cabs, once there enjoying private check-in, an open bar and a selection of meals and snacks, before boarding. Silverjet operated a fleet of three Boeing 767s, fitted with 100 flatbed-seats, less than half the usual capacity.
BWAA plans to operate three Boeing Co. 757s, the source said. London Luton’s marketing director Natalie Raper confirmed the airport is “in discussions” with BWAA, and more detail will likely be forthcoming later this week.
A Jordanian outfit has taken delivery of one of the Silverjet 767s, and I'm sure it was based in Nigeria.
The aircraft was still resplendent in its Silverjet livery with new titles stuck on the forward fuselage.
The aircraft was still resplendent in its Silverjet livery with new titles stuck on the forward fuselage.
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What a laugh!
Luton Borough council has come under fire for a new leaflet that claims its success was not "put on ice" this winter despite the area grinding to a halt during last month's snow.
Luton Borough Council made the claim in its glossy new "Think Luton think success" leaflet.
Backed by a snowscene of Luton, it says: "Success has not been put on ice this winter.
"Despite the chill and the crunch Luton is still turning up the heat."
The leaflet claims several successes, including the completion of the £22m East Luton Corridor and £2m improvement works to the access at Luton Airport.
But the claims have been met with criticism after the town was brought to a standstill during last month's heavy snowfall.
Arctic conditions grounded flights at Luton airport and brought bus services, refuse service and the town's courts to a halt.
At one point the borough council issued an official warning to people not to go into the town at all unless absolutely necessary.
Today its leaflets claims were met with a scathing response by budget airline easyJet, which is now threatening legal action against the council and airport for £500,000 losses caused by closures during the snowfall.
The company says the airport failed to implement its Snow Plan and that the council breached its statutory duty.
Today spokesman Andrew McConnell said the picture was a strange choice as a sign of "success".
He said: "We are very surprised that the council has used a picture of new road taken at a time when there was snow - this certainly wasn't a good time for airline customers and staff who battled to get to the airport.
"The new road between the M1 motorway and the Airport is massively over budget and should have been finished 18 months ago; so to claim that it is a success is complete joke!"
But the council today said the leaflet was was "pefectly appropriate".
A spokesman said: "It is perfectly appropriate for the council to draw attention to the hard work of staff in keeping things moving during the recent bad weather.
"The weather was the worst winter conditions for 18 years and council staff were working around the clock to keep all major traffic routes around the town as free as possible from snow and ice."
The spokesman said refuse and recycling staff in Luton who could not perform their usual duties turned out to help with gritting.
He said the council's Highways Maintenance team sent lorries as far afield as Liverpool to bring in fresh supplies of salt and staffed an emergency telephone service for the public.
"The efforts made to maintain services for the most vulnerable members of our community, such as the home care staff working in adult care who braved the weather to take care of elderly residents, were greatly appreciated," the spokesman added.
"The extreme weather presented us with some exceptional challenges, which were met with equally exceptional efforts."
Luton Borough Council made the claim in its glossy new "Think Luton think success" leaflet.
Backed by a snowscene of Luton, it says: "Success has not been put on ice this winter.
"Despite the chill and the crunch Luton is still turning up the heat."
The leaflet claims several successes, including the completion of the £22m East Luton Corridor and £2m improvement works to the access at Luton Airport.
But the claims have been met with criticism after the town was brought to a standstill during last month's heavy snowfall.
Arctic conditions grounded flights at Luton airport and brought bus services, refuse service and the town's courts to a halt.
At one point the borough council issued an official warning to people not to go into the town at all unless absolutely necessary.
Today its leaflets claims were met with a scathing response by budget airline easyJet, which is now threatening legal action against the council and airport for £500,000 losses caused by closures during the snowfall.
The company says the airport failed to implement its Snow Plan and that the council breached its statutory duty.
Today spokesman Andrew McConnell said the picture was a strange choice as a sign of "success".
He said: "We are very surprised that the council has used a picture of new road taken at a time when there was snow - this certainly wasn't a good time for airline customers and staff who battled to get to the airport.
"The new road between the M1 motorway and the Airport is massively over budget and should have been finished 18 months ago; so to claim that it is a success is complete joke!"
But the council today said the leaflet was was "pefectly appropriate".
A spokesman said: "It is perfectly appropriate for the council to draw attention to the hard work of staff in keeping things moving during the recent bad weather.
"The weather was the worst winter conditions for 18 years and council staff were working around the clock to keep all major traffic routes around the town as free as possible from snow and ice."
The spokesman said refuse and recycling staff in Luton who could not perform their usual duties turned out to help with gritting.
He said the council's Highways Maintenance team sent lorries as far afield as Liverpool to bring in fresh supplies of salt and staffed an emergency telephone service for the public.
"The efforts made to maintain services for the most vulnerable members of our community, such as the home care staff working in adult care who braved the weather to take care of elderly residents, were greatly appreciated," the spokesman added.
"The extreme weather presented us with some exceptional challenges, which were met with equally exceptional efforts."
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Just think of compo?
If the airlines can blame someone else (and prove it) they don't have to refund their travelling customers if flights get delayed/cancelled.
If the airlines can blame someone else (and prove it) they don't have to refund their travelling customers if flights get delayed/cancelled.
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I thought I would liven up the thread by posting a comment about aeroplanes as opposed to the antics of LBC!
Can someone tell me how many fewer airframes EZY have based at LTN this winter? Looking at the arrivals page on TV I was frankly shocked by the apparent scale of cutback in flights this winter. In particular, Nice and Barcelona, at one time two of EZY's strongest destinations out of LTN, hardly feature at all. I guess in the teeth of the downturn, EZY, like so many airlines before at LTN, have retrenched to LGW. Where have the wave of arrivals beyween about 1200 and 1300 and 2200 and 1300 gone to?
Can someone tell me how many fewer airframes EZY have based at LTN this winter? Looking at the arrivals page on TV I was frankly shocked by the apparent scale of cutback in flights this winter. In particular, Nice and Barcelona, at one time two of EZY's strongest destinations out of LTN, hardly feature at all. I guess in the teeth of the downturn, EZY, like so many airlines before at LTN, have retrenched to LGW. Where have the wave of arrivals beyween about 1200 and 1300 and 2200 and 1300 gone to?
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I thought I would liven up the thread by posting a comment about aeroplanes as opposed to the antics of LBC!
From what I understand the number of aircraft easyJet base at LTN has not changed, but I am happy to be corrected.
From what I heard, when the airlines plans for the winter timetable was announced, what they were doing was keeping the number of aircraft at the airport the same. However several of the aircraft would fly off in the morning on one of the airlines routes and then between other bases and then not return till the evening.
Dortmund I understand is one of the airports in this situation.
Other than this, I think the aircraft have also not been so heavily utilised as you would expect for a LCC.
Looking at the summer timetable it seems to very much return to normal, as summer 08.
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I was delayed by 2 hours into Gatwick yesterday, but that seems to be the norm for me when I book orange!
Troops nut has Luton airport baggage job | The Sun |News|Campaigns|Our Boys
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Muslim protester who works as baggage handler at Luton Airport has security pass suspended | Mail Online
So much for airside vetting when a Muslim extremist can pick up an airside pass and get a job as a baggage handler at Luton. In my opinion he and his fellow extremists are vile pieces of filth who should not be allowed near an airport unless it is as a passenger on a one way ticket to Guantánamo Bay.
These people who are mainly born here are enemies of the state and no doubt only consider themselves to be British when it comes to claiming housing benefits.
So much for airside vetting when a Muslim extremist can pick up an airside pass and get a job as a baggage handler at Luton. In my opinion he and his fellow extremists are vile pieces of filth who should not be allowed near an airport unless it is as a passenger on a one way ticket to Guantánamo Bay.
These people who are mainly born here are enemies of the state and no doubt only consider themselves to be British when it comes to claiming housing benefits.
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Well from purely a security threat, having those type of folk airside would seem to be insane!
No doubt recent events will open up a 'can of worms'!
No doubt recent events will open up a 'can of worms'!
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I think what the airline was going to do initially was park up several B737s at Luton during the winter period but a change was made and all the aircraft based at the airport were used and rotated as and when required. I agree with you about the summer schedule which is available on the airport web site to download most of the services have returned to the pre-winter timetable but I notice Zurich remains at one daily and Barcelona and Nice still have a reduced frequency.
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Over the winter season (especially during the week), There are several spare EZY 737's sat at LTN with no flights scheduled, they often get used as back up around the rest of the network when the A319's go tech.
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Nice post LTNman,
Probably the guy working in screening,taking the perfume or aftershave/shaving gel off the crew with UK ID bagages(100ml), Ok maybe not then the the Flight crew then,Sorry Sir/ Madam I have to screen your work laptop, even though you have an axe behind you, See the thread? Background checks are great, I'm not at all anti security, But when will comonsense prevail? Firemen only allow to use water? Oh I think I saw an Ops car breaking the speed limit the other day. Hope he was wearing his/her seat belt, It would be an breach or their work contract i bet?????
Probably the guy working in screening,taking the perfume or aftershave/shaving gel off the crew with UK ID bagages(100ml), Ok maybe not then the the Flight crew then,Sorry Sir/ Madam I have to screen your work laptop, even though you have an axe behind you, See the thread? Background checks are great, I'm not at all anti security, But when will comonsense prevail? Firemen only allow to use water? Oh I think I saw an Ops car breaking the speed limit the other day. Hope he was wearing his/her seat belt, It would be an breach or their work contract i bet?????