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Old 13th Mar 2009, 16:39
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Sorry - more about the surrounding road infrastructure!

PIGHEADED AND ARROGANT" is how a neighbouring council have been described as the destruction of a huge swathe of Hertfordshire countryside looks more likely than ever.

Papers seen by North Herts District Council (NHDC) last night (Thursday) reveal that the proposed development to expand Luton to the west of the town has been rejected.

This leaves the proposed eastern development, most of which is on Herts Green Belt, as the most likely option to build a further 5,500 homes in line with government housing targets.

This follows a decision on Monday night by Luton Borough Council's executive in favour of a northern bypass to solve the town's traffic problems which would encroach into Hertfordshire.

The road would run near to Lilley before joining the A505.

An inner route that would have run close to the edge of Luton, joining the A505 in Round Green or Stopsley was rejected, as was a plan to massively improve public transport in and around the town.

Councillors agreed with a public consultation with Luton residents in which more than 1,700 of those who responded preferred the outer bypass option, 350 the inner road and 650 the improvements to public transport.

These decisions infuriated David Barnard, NHDC southern rural committee chairman, who said: "How can any collected figures have any credibility, when the people of North Herts in which the outer route lies, were not given an equal chance to vote or voice an opinion? Democracy is not a word well known to Luton Council and their pigheaded and arrogant disregard for their neighbouring councils and residents is more evident as each day goes by.

"Next the Luton and South Beds planning committee will make a decision to build in North Herts across our beautiful Green Belt land, without giving a full and fair consideration to the alternative and well structured west of Luton proposals."

A formal decision on a strategy for the entire project, which also includes an eastern bypass to Luton Airport through Herts, will be made at a meeting of the Luton and South Beds Joint committee next Friday. This will be followed by a six week public consultation
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Old 14th Mar 2009, 21:59
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Grrr

Friday 13th was certainly an unlucky day for a certain PPRuNe Luton regular poster!

Mike, it was a privilege knowing you for many years, God bless you! You are assured a fond farewell for your last departure.

The world of Luton ATC and its interface with it's external agencies will never quite be the same again.
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Old 16th Mar 2009, 16:59
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Died? Retired?, Resigned? Sacked? Stuck in the A505 roadworks?
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I see that Planning Permission has been granted for an extension to the Long Term car park, for an additional 980 spaces. Will this result in an overall increase in capacity, or just compensate for the loss of spaces in the Mid Term car park, because of the construction of the new dual carriageway into the airport.

How many spaces are there for on-site parking, is it about 10,000 ?
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Old 17th Mar 2009, 13:28
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Luton Traffic down 23.8% in February

544,956 pax in Feb 09 down 23.8%

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passenger figures

The figures are not surprising really especially with all the weather distruptions and the air transport movements down by 25 per cent and one day less compared to 2008. What I find surprising is the 12 month rolling passenger figure is down only 0.9 per cent which shows just how much rapid growth Luton had in 2008.
I would think the March figures are going to be pretty poor as well with Easter not falling in the month like 2008 but that of course is the same for all airports.
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Old 18th Mar 2009, 13:54
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Priority Lane Charge

I see Luton have joined some other airports with a three pounds ¨priority lane´ security charge. Another rip-off to join the many others in rip-off Britain, I suppose some mugs will pay it. Why dont people in the UK say enough is enough, I know I wont pay it when and if I use the airport but I am a Yorkshireman!
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Old 18th Mar 2009, 14:07
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Luton even charge for those little clear bags you are required to put your liquids into! At least BAA haven't started that one... yet!
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Old 18th Mar 2009, 14:37
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I was working at Stansted the other week. Apart from the size of the place I noted that there were no cars parked in the drop off area and that access to the drop off area was so easy. But then they did have a traffic warden on duty who was showing no mercy and a road layout that was not in a figure of eight. I can never understand why it is beyond the minds of Luton management that they just can’t sort the mess at Luton out.
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Old 19th Mar 2009, 14:13
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Bye Bye BAA at STN?

Roll-up, roll-up, who wants a not to be soon cross subsidised strip of concrete in Essex? - perhaps we will have a level playing field for the first time in years!

BBC NEWS | Business | BAA could challenge airport sale

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Old 19th Mar 2009, 17:40
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Yes but to be quite honest Stansted does already have better infrastructure including a better terminal, longer runway, a railway station by the terminal which does not require a 20 minute road trip to get there, a drop off area and road layout that is free of congestion and plenty of room for future expansion.

I see the last spot for a new apron at Luton is going to become an expanded long term car park but at least they have protected the area for taxiway Hotel. Whether that ever gets built is very doubtful.
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Old 19th Mar 2009, 18:26
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I made my first visit recently to Wigmore Park, formerly the Council Tip. There is a large parcel of land adjoining the airport boundary, which is somewhat undulating, but undeveloped, that could be added to the Airport estate. It is evidently under the ownership of Luton Borough Council, and is currently not productive.

Surely granting that to the concession holder, and extending their concession could see significant development potential being realised. What the Airport most needs for passenger growth is additional parking stands, plus bolt-on added terminal capacity as required (piers and/or satellites). These could be accommodated by considered development of this land.

In view of the news about Stansted being sold, and having to stand alone, adding capacity like this would position Luton very well to compete with the Essex field for passenger growth when the economy recovers. It could also be done at a fraction of the cost of BAA's plans for STN.
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Weren't there once plans for two 4 packs between the Harrods infrastructure & the run-up bay?
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It would not be a simple job as scraping away the top soil as Harrods contractors found out when building their second hangar. When they dug down they were digging up rubbish.

Bet know one knows that close to the long term car park on airport land there used to be a mansion called Falconer’s Hall, which was built in the 16th century and belonged to Sir Francis Crawley. There was also a small house and chapel that were all surrounded by a moat.

Weren't there once plans for two 4 packs between the Harrods infrastructure & the run-up bay?
That's where the car park is going. 966 new spaces at £12.50 per day equals over £12,000 a day in fees.
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Is not the position of those traffic lights which are causing long queues of standing vehicles inside the 1:10,000 area of the Public Safety Zone something of a no-no? That is, I believe, an area which shouldn't contain large numbers of squashy items such as people for any appreciable length of time, especially if they're immediately adjacent to their own tank of highly combustible material? Or have I misunderstood?
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Eastern by-pass of Luton Airport moved a step closer today......
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Are you going to tell us why ?
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Old 20th Mar 2009, 16:04
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Luton Town Hall today...

"Councillors on the joint planning committee are expected to approve a 10,000 hectare development to the east of Luton, mainly on Hertfordshire Green Belt, as well as approve a northern bypass into the county. They will also decide on whether to adopt proposals for an eastern bypass to Luton airport, again into Herts."
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Old 20th Mar 2009, 17:33
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So Luton can decide unilaterally that Luton will extend into another county and that county will get a new bypass. I am sure Herts CC will have plenty to say about that. I also have no doubt that Luton will get its way. So how will this impact on the airport?
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Well after the fiasco of the Muslim extremist who was employed as a baggage handler at Luton we now have another gem. We now discover that the UK border agency employs foreign nationals at Luton to check passorts.

Border officer 'smuggled migrants with false passports' - Telegraph


An Immigration officer at Luton airport has appeared in court accused of smuggling migrants into Britain with false documents.

Anthony Quarco, 44, was arrested after 13 fake passports were found in his desk at the airport.

It is understood that colleagues had alerted the authorities after becoming suspicious about his behaviour.

Quarco, who is half Ghanaian and half Liberian was also a church minister, he told magistrates at Croydon Crown Court – where he faced 15 counts under the Identity Cards Act – that the passports belonged to people in his congregation. The documents reportedly come from Kenya, Ghana, France and Switzerland.

Quarco, from Croydon in south London, was refused bail at the hearing and remanded in custody until the end of the month.

A UK Border Agency spokesman told the Daily Mail: "It would be inappropriate to comment as this investigation is ongoing. The UK Border Agency expects the highest levels of integrity from its staff and the majority of our staff carry out their roles with professionalism and integrity.
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