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Old 28th Apr 2010, 11:14
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Italy is quite poorly served out of Luton.

Ryanair only do Trapani and easyJet Milan and Pisa.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 13:22
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Pretty sure its the first Wizz route wholly within 'western' Europe. Ends in September though according to the Wizz timetable
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Both Dubrovnik & Spilt are early morning departures, so aircraft overnighting at LTN after the Treviso arrival @ 2300. DBV & TSF are three weekly, starting 18 June, SPU, four weekly. Would imagine they will do well. This makes 20 routes from LTN.

Wizz expand, while easy reduce, because of the ongoing spat with the airport over charges.

Yet another add in the local paper from easy stating "easyjet wants to create jobs in Luton. Luton Council say "no thanks". Sort it out pleaseeeeee !
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 14:07
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wizz expansion etc

To me this is a very interesting development by Wizz to operate between two ´´western´´ countries. Good luck to them, I hope they succeed because they certainly have found a niche market in routes to and from eastern Europe and they and Ryanair do not seem to step on each others toes too much. I would not be surprised if they started a Rome service as the capital of Italy is not served from Luton (it used to be a Ryanair route as was Treviso). It seems strange looking from afar that Wizz seem reasonably happy with the ´´deal´´ they have with Luton and easy don´t but easy never seem to be satisfied wherever they operate for long. Also it still looks to me that they are still operating 15 aircraft from Luton so not much of a cutback as yet although a number of rotations have been axed.
I wonder if anybody else noticed that the Transavia Rotterdam-Gatwick route is still not performing as well as the Luton service with the March figures some 500 passengers short.
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 14:40
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From current Wizzair sales system, the below flights presently appear not to 'fit' within the Wizz program. I am guessing there is either additional flights ex-LTN yet to be announced (which might produce up to two 'based' aircraft at LTN) or there is a big program re-shuffle that we've not seen yet:

"AIRCRAFT #1"
DAY 1 AM: LTN 0600 - 0930 SPU / SPU 1005 - 1145 LTN
PM: NIL
DAY 2 AM: LTN 0655 - 1045 DBV / DBV 1115 - 1310 LTN
PM: LTN 1405 - 1805 BEG / BEG 1835 - 2010 LTN
DAY 3 AM: LTN 0600 - 0930 SPU / SPU 1005 - 1145 LTN
PM: NIL
DAY 4 AM: LTN 0655 - 1045 DBV / DBV 1115 - 1310 LTN
PM: LTN 1405 - 1805 BEG / BEG 1835 - 2010 LTN
DAY 5 AM: LTN 0600 - 0930 SPU / SPU 1005 - 1145 LTN
PM: NIL
DAY 6 AM: LTN 0655 - 1045 DBV / DBV 1115 - 1310 LTN
PM: LTN 1405 - 1805 BEG / BEG 1835 - 2010 LTN
DAY 7 AM: LTN 0600 - 0930 SPU / SPU 1005 - 1145 LTN
PM: NIL

"AIRCRAFT #2"
DAY 1 AM: NIL
PM: NIL
DAY 2 AM: NIL
PM: LTN 1835 - 2125 TSF / TSF 2155 - 2300 LTN
DAY 3 AM: NIL
PM: NIL
DAY 4 AM: LTN 1835 - 2125 TSF / TSF 2155 - 2300 LTN
PM: NIL
DAY 5 AM: NIL
PM: NIL
DAY 6 AM: NIL
PM: LTN 1835 - 2125 TSF / TSF 2155 - 2300 LTN
DAY 7 AM: NIL
PM: NIL


...looks very much like the TSF will end up being bundled onto an aircraft operating a w-pattern through LTN (e.g. aircraft originating from KTW or similar?) but the outline "AIRCRAFT #1" plan above is very intriguing and does very much give the impression that this is the start of a whole aircraft based at LTN to come?
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 17:14
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Wizz expanding

Very good news and many more to come i hope with a based a320 if rumours are true
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Old 28th Apr 2010, 19:56
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Grrr

Mr 1 Bravo, I was stating that 'generally' the Italian low cost market is orange or blue, apologies for the confusion my post gave.

Brave move for Wizz, but niche markets have a value.

Has any other carrier offered Treviso - Luton before? Ciao Fly, Volare web....? Didn't Ryanair once?

Nothing like a nice Venetian punt!

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Old 28th Apr 2010, 20:18
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Has any other carrier offerer Treviso - Luton before? Ciao Fly, Volare web....?
Ryanair did, 3 or 4 years ago if I'm not mistaken...
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You guys are great!! Carry on crunching the "facts", figures and data for us Wizz boys please!!

We need to know what may happen in Luton, as we're too busy flying full aircraft around to do any research ourselves.

If, and when, you know what the full picture looks like please let me know. I can ask my Fleet Manager for a base move then!!

One thing is for sure. Crewing the base will not be a problem.
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Old 29th Apr 2010, 13:52
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Has any other carrier offered Treviso - Luton before? Ciao Fly, Volare web....?
Pretty sure no. Volare web may have offered Venice Marco Polo-Luton but from what info I can find Ciao Fly never served any airport in the Venice area
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Just reading in the Wizzair forum on here, its a little vague but from what I can make out, it seems these new routes to Split, Dubrovnik and Treviso, have been hastily created and an A320 WILL be based at LTN for three months during the summer!

It seems this A320 was supposed to be based at Prague and was part of Wizzair's continued expansion there. But the airline have got into an argument with PRG about increased airport fees and have cancelled the new routes and expansion. So what is PRG's loss, is LTN's gain!

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airpo...ml#post5663579

This person seems quite well informed, but parts of the thread are a little difficult to understand. But they are stating from what I make out there could be up to two aircraft based here soon and they mentioned new routes to:

Villinius 2/3x Weekly
Tallin 2x Weekly
Lodz 3/4x Weekly
Milan Bergamo 4x Weekly
Rome Fiumicino 3/4x Weekly
Pisa Galileo 2/3x Weekly
Bologna Forli 2/3x Weekly
Valencia 3x Weekly
Porto 2/3x Weekly

Read what you want into this, but seems there could possibly be interesting developments in the future?!
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Old 30th Apr 2010, 15:16
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Very strange announcement from FCC as this work was completed sometime ago.

"First Capital Connect has advised that owing to planned engineering work to lengthen the platforms at Luton Airport Parkway station, there will be no train service between St Albans and Bedford on Sunday May 2, 9 or 16.

Replacement buses will operate directly between the Airport terminal and St Albans/Bedford.

A reduced service will also operate on Saturday May 1, 8 and 15 and on Bank Holiday Monday May 3"
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No trains between Leagrave & St Albans.
So l think it is the other stations that are getting worked, which means no trains to Parkway.
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Old 30th Apr 2010, 17:09
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Villinius 2/3x Weekly
Tallin 2x Weekly
Out of respect: It's Vilnius VNO (Lithuania) and Tallinn TLL (Estonia). Both routes are covered from STN (LT's own Star1 to VNO and Easyjet to TLL) at quite high frequencies (4-5/week). Wizz entering these markets is an interesting prospect. About VNO, FR have so many routes from UK to neighbouring Kaunas though that one wonders if that's really such a big gap in the market. Hmm, many UK-Italian routes there, so is this the end of the unofficial truce between FR and Wizz then ? Being selfish, I'd much rather like them to move the plane to BHX, EMA or even HHN .
 
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No trains between Leagrave & St Albans.
So l think it is the other stations that are getting worked, which means no trains to Parkway.




It is Luton platforms work driving the work schedule. Overhead wires need to be off. Having planned for that, other works take places at other stations, including Harpenden as I understand it, the combined effects of the whole lot preventing EMT as well as FCC trains.

Not good for LTN but I you have to break eggs to make an omelette.
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Old 1st May 2010, 15:50
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Very strange announcement from FCC as this work was completed sometime ago.

"First Capital Connect has advised that owing to planned engineering work to lengthen the platforms at Luton Airport Parkway station, there will be no train service between St Albans and Bedford on Sunday May 2, 9 or 16.



Thats an error, it is Luton not Luton Airport Parkway thats being worked on, with advantage being taken of to work at other sites too.

Sorry, meant to add that into my other reply, not split it in 2 replies.
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Old 3rd May 2010, 13:47
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For those that have missed it a Luton thread has been running here for a while. http://www.pprune.org/aviation-histo...ck-runway.html
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Old 3rd May 2010, 19:50
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Per FlightGlobal....

EBACE: Ocean Sky snaps up Monarch’s engineering hangar at Luton
By Kate Sarsfield

Ocean Sky (stand 1449) has signed a multi-million pound deal to buy one of Monarch Aircraft Engineering's two hangars at London Luton airport. The acquisition is part of a wider strategy by the UK-based company to expand its offering at the airport - where it began operations around a year ago - and position itself as one of the top three business aviation services providers in Europe.

The 4,275m2 (46,000ft2) hangar gives Ocean Sky highly sought after space at Luton - doubling its apron area to 11,615m2 and giving it stand capacity for up to 20 aircraft.

The ex-Monarch-owned building also allows Ocean Sky to operate a second full engineering facility for Bombardier business aircraft on top of the one at its Manchester Jet Centre in the north of England. The company is also keen to extend this offering to other airframers - notably Dassault - at a later date.

The former Monarch hangar has a door height of 14m and can hold up to two Boeing 757s. "Other configurations would allow up to two Bombardier Global Expresses, two Challengers, one Gulfstream, a Dassault Falcon and two Cessna Citation business jets. There is also space for up to 10 offices," says Ocean Sky.

"This is an excellent acquisition for us, a rare opportunity at this UK airport and we were determined to seize it, particularly because it dramatically increases our engineering and parking capability," says Ocean Sky group chief executive Steve Grimes.

There will also be a full interiors facility at Luton, matching the one available at Manchester.

"Luton is the busiest general aviation airport in the UK and Ocean Sky has seen up to 150% increases in traffic month on month at the Luton fixed-base operation since services began," Grimes adds.

Ocean Sky recently announced a £10 million ($15.3 million) cash injection from shareholders to fund growth across Europe. As part of its expansion, the company intends to increase its managed aircraft from 30 to more than 40 by the end of the year.

"There is much more to come for us this year," says Grimes. "I am very clear in my mind that the future for Ocean Sky is in being able to provide consistently high service in jet centres across the world.

In addition to expanding its service facilities, Ocean Sky says it is also looking towards the Middle East for the first time.
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Old 3rd May 2010, 20:17
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So which hangar has been sold off?
Why are Monarch cutting back at Luton?
Will there be job loses?
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Old 3rd May 2010, 20:24
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With regards to which Hangar it sounds like H127 as this one seems to fit the description what with the size and what can be accommodate inside

But I stand to be corrected
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