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Old 18th Jul 2009, 22:38
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Why is this road 40 mph anyway? I can understand the traffic lights may be an issue but they could be protected by a 40 zone either side as is the case when an unrestricted road corsses a restricted one at a roundabout for example.
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Old 19th Jul 2009, 16:58
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Like many other places, it's a 40 limit in order to raise taxes and penalize the motorist. The road attracts no pedestrians (except when snow-bound!), and has no house frontages, schools or hospitals nearby. Obviously it should be a 70 limit, which is why it's 40.
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Old 20th Jul 2009, 14:25
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Grrr

bmibaby were very close to opening routes from Luton a few years back.

If Ryanair had been given their own dedicated terminal and apron back in the late 1980's, they would never have moved to Stansted. Trouble was, LBC could not borrow the money to create the facilities due to HM Govt borrowing restrictions. In fact, I was only talking about this on Saturday evening with a friend of the family at a wedding. For anyone that knows me or my wife's family connections, they might even know to whom I am referring?

Anyway, I hate Stansted, I tell lies and I am particularly full of hot air!
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Old 20th Jul 2009, 16:30
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If Ryanair had been given their own dedicated terminal and apron back in the late 1980's, they would never have moved to Stansted.
But where would they have put it and who would have paid for it? Anyway I thought it was Easyjet that wanted to build their own terminal at Luton that would have made Luton’s bus station look like a place of shear luxury compared to what Easyjet wanted but thankfully the council said no.

I can remember easyjet saying that the new terminal at Luton was like the Taj Mahal and much too posh for their passengers yet easyjet now has no problems using airports like Gatwick and Stansted.
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Old 20th Jul 2009, 18:53
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I see that at 7.30 tonight that the Old Bill were out again with their speed guns. This time they were on the carriageway that heads away from the airport and were lurking where the new dual carriageway joins with the A505.
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Old 20th Jul 2009, 22:02
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Well I suppose it makes a change from steaking out the local burger vans on a regular basis. I now know why the local constabulary are so fat. It's not their protective clothing after all. Just their hunger pains while on local taxpayers business. Otherwise known as daylight robbery.

btw back to airport business. Is the escalator in the arrivals area of the
pier working yet ? I'm sure it's been out of service for the last 2 years.
or is it yet another environmental initiative to save power ?

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Old 20th Jul 2009, 23:44
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Hello LTN fans

Hello Buster the ####

I cannot get over your loyalty to LTN, cue LTNMan!!

The place is a ****hole and I know that I should resist
'taking the bait', but how on earth can you justify saying
that this is a major International Airport? How STN/LTN
developed is irrevelent, it happended.GET OVER IT!
The bottom line is . . . . 2mile long runway, which pleases
most Pilots, versus a few catty comments and, oh f### we're
looking at 1.2m!

If I was flying an aeroplane, quite aside of all the 'Buster the ####
politics, I would be much happier with a much larger bit of tarmac . . .
wherever that was laid AND the history behind it!

A lovely Airport....no it's not, it's crap! I've been complimentary in the past,
but #### it I'll now be honest! I'm very surprised by LTNMan, who at least grasped what was going on.

Welcome to the real world, LTN
will do Ok for a time, but will still suffer the same as other Airports, which
will, I'm afraid. include STN!!

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Old 21st Jul 2009, 05:24
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He's back oh no, here we go again!

how on earth can you justify saying that this is a major International Airport
Can't talk for the Bear but in my opinion it all depends on how you define the word major. Luton is without a doubt one of the UK's major airports but in the world order no it isn't. But then in the world order nor is Stansted Regional Airport What Stansted needs is to change its name like Liverpool so foreigners can associate Stansted as a London Airport. Can I suggest Stansted Jack the Ripper Airport.

The bottom line is . . . . 2mile long runway, which pleases
most Pilots, versus a few catty comments and, oh f### we're
looking at 1.2m!
Actually Stansted is 1.89 miles long and Luton is 1.34 miles long. Not such a big difference when compared to Stansted's runway V Heathrow

If I was flying an aeroplane, quite aside of all the 'Buster the ####
politics, I would be much happier with a much larger bit of tarmac . . .
wherever that was laid AND the history behind it!
So with that view point the really happy pilots fly into Heathrow

A lovely Airport....no it's not, it's crap! I've been complimentary in the past,
Have you

Look my friend, you are going around in circles.

What you need to remember is that in Joe Public’s eyes Stansted and Luton are seen as the same type of airport. Yes Luton has its problems with access to the CTA in the morning peak period but then so has Stansted got its problems. Just see how long it takes to get airside at Stansted in the morning or how long it takes to get Luggage around midnight. And lets not forget those passengers who have picked up their cases after midnight. On most days of the week Stansted’s branch line rail service stops at 00.30 so passengers have an amazing 5 hour wait for the next train to London

It is a fact that Stansted has poor public transport links and is only popular because Ryanair specialize in using airports that are miles from anywhere. Stansted is so far from London it should have been renamed Cambridge Airport, as it is closer to there than it is to the big smoke. It is also a fact that Ryanair are trapped at Stansted and use it not by choice but because no other airport around London can accommodate them or want them in a big way.

I know that you enjoy a good 'wind up', but you could be pushing the wrong 'button' here?!
Buster knows how to push your button, Well done Buster, you have got this guy wound up a treat

Chopper
Your name sums you up I bet you real name is Dick

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Old 21st Jul 2009, 11:07
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Ryanair Cut Flights By 40% at STN...

Chopper69 ain going to like this news!

40% cut in flights by Ryanair from STN - BBC NEWS | Business | Ryanair reduces Stansted flights

I live in hope and really really doubt this happen, but wold be good if LTN picks up even a small amount of this capacity.

I think however one of Ryanair's major gripes in APD Tax, but they do also complain STN is one of their more expensive bases to fly from. While I am sure many LTN fans will have a smile on their face, this isn't good for the travel industry at all in the London and South East region.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 11:52
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Last year:
Ryanair - News : Ryanair Unveils 14% Capacity Reductions

This year:
Ryanair - News : Ryanair Cuts Stansted Winter Capacity by 40%
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 12:01
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What with all this bickering about the relative pros and cons of STN and LTN, could I suggest that to resolve the matter definitively - both teams of supporters wearing their team colours (beige & dark blue for LTN, black & yellow for STN?) should meet up in a muddy field in neutral territory settle the matter like men by beating the crap out of eachother.

It would serve just as much purpose.

Monty Python, the Batley Town Womens' Guild and the Battle of Pearl Harbour spring to mind...

YouTube - Monty Python - Battle of Pearl Harbour

Enjoy.

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Old 21st Jul 2009, 12:01
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40% is HUGE when considering it is Ryanair's largest base by some way.

Will only do good for one airline: easyjet.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 12:18
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It will have little effect at all, since the net reduction at STN will be close to 0.

4 extra based aircraft cut compared to 08/09, but the release says capacity cut of 30% which is equivilent to 28 aircraft, the same as last winter. The difference is more flights will be performed by foreign based aircraft this time around.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 12:27
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What with all this bickering about the relative pros and cons of STN and LTN
Well said that man. We never heard a thing here from the likes of Dick69 when BAA Stansted was lapping up the Heathrow landing fees subsidies. Now he feels threatened as the passenger disappear.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 14:12
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Grrr

Did I hear on the news today something related to high airport charges at Stansted and Ryanair wheeling out the propaganda machine?

If the BAA cannot sell Gatwick for a reasonable amount, what chance of runway 2 at Stansted!

Anyway, what do bears know!

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Old 21st Jul 2009, 16:54
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The CTA traffic lights got switched on this morning. I hear it was a total disaster and was like trying to get to the terminal after the February snow storms

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Old 21st Jul 2009, 17:23
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BWAA

Just read an article in a German magazine(why out here i dont know) that states that British West African Airways are now due to start this winter to Lagos from Luton.
Anybody know if there is any truth in it as i thought it had died a death recently.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 18:02
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It will have little effect at all, since the net reduction at STN will be close to 0.
4 extra based aircraft cut compared to 08/09, but the release says capacity cut of 30% which is equivilent to 28 aircraft, the same as last winter. The difference is more flights will be performed by foreign based aircraft this time around.
Why does Ryanair's own publicity machine say 24 aircraft then?
Ryanair, the World’s favourite airline, today (21st July) announced a 40% capacity cutback in its Stansted Winter Schedule starting in October ’09. Ryanair operated 40 aircraft from Stansted this summer but will reduce this to 24 aircraft (a 40% reduction) this winter with a 30% reduction in the number of weekly flights and a loss of 2.5m passengers at Stansted between October and March 2010.

Either way it is lost income, 30% reduction in flights, wherever they are based or not!

Sorry......not really LTN news but more fuel to the fire of a non profit making airport in Essex without cross subsidies.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 18:15
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How is the winter schedule for Ryanair LTN looking? Do we know which routes are getting the axe and are any new destinations?
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Old 22nd Jul 2009, 08:20
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pabely - I should have made clear that I mean no net reduction compared to last winter. Yes, only 24 aircraft will be based compared to 28 last winter, but the extra flights carried out by foreign-based machines are equivilent to the work of 4 based aircraft.
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