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Anyone have the date of the photo. The Connies pre-date my visits to LTN (just) but I understand that although several were inherited by Euravia (749s I think) at least one of the original ex Euravia 049s appeared in Skyways colours for a Malta service. Anyone able to confirm.
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From a 1964 brochure G-ARKE is the Connie.
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Or perhaps G-ARXE
Illustrated my point nicely. Anyone remember why and when this ex El-Al machnie was repainted in to Skyways colours (presumably form Euravia ones) and ( I presume) ex Skyways ones went into Euravia colours.
I was too young at the time - didn't vist LTN regulalry unitl 1968 but do remember the Connies making window panes rattle in our house at Welwyn.
Illustrated my point nicely. Anyone remember why and when this ex El-Al machnie was repainted in to Skyways colours (presumably form Euravia ones) and ( I presume) ex Skyways ones went into Euravia colours.
I was too young at the time - didn't vist LTN regulalry unitl 1968 but do remember the Connies making window panes rattle in our house at Welwyn.
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Right up to their replacement with Britannias in 1965, some Connies were in Skyways colours and some (the majority) in Euravia colours. Never could work out why. I'm afraid my memory can't stretch to remembering which were in each respective company colours, or when they changed. I do recall that G-ANUR was usually a Skyways machine, and I remember seeing it at LHR in Skyways colours as far back as April 1961, when it almost fogged out the Queen's Building with its excessively smoky start! The Malta flight operated once or perhaps twice a week by the Skyways Connies and departed LTN about 2100 or 2200 hours. This flight was shown in the BEA timetables at the time. The LTN connies were notorious for their 3-engine or even 2-engine arrivals and I too remember them thundering overhead on departure at very low level.
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Isn't there any up-to-date news re. LTN? All you old boys fondly remembering your short-trousered spotting days is very interesting (perhaps better suited to Spotters' Corner??) but really, is this all there is to say about LTN nowadays...??
The way fuel prices are increasing together with the economic down turn I would say no news is good news at the moment. It can be only a matter of time before passenger numbers start to drop and routes are withdrawn.
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The way fuel prices are increasing together with the economic down...only a matter of time before passenger numbers start to drop and routes are withdrawn.
Not sure how/when this is going to affect the likes of easyJet & Ryanair but once their 'hedged' fuel periods end later this year, the impact will begin to bite quite painfully.
Of course, any 'hit' taken by these lo-cos is also going to affect the likes of Stansted (and given that easyJet now represents around 45% of Gatwick's movements) even down there in Sussex.
The continuing financial shambles that nowadays passes for what's laughingly called the "US Economy" must also soon begin to affect some of the bizjet business at Luton (so too at Farnborough).
Still, Wizzair seems to be going from strength to strength (a 40% increase to over 4 million pax last year, and plans to more than double its fleet size over the next 60 months) so maybe any slack will be taken up by them?
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I raised a question 'with those in the know' recently around the larger low cost airlines buying up the competition or purchasing airlines for organic growth into new markets. The reply was simply "Why pay for something now that could be free very soon!" I therefore expect casualties and the larger Lo-Co's to pick those route/slot bones? An industry standard over the years, survival of the fitest!
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NATS recently stated that growth in traffic using UK airspace in June was 4!
4 movements more in June 2008 than 2007!
Anyone care to guess at the negative growth for November when the Winter schedules kick in (I am talking UK movements)?
Whilst the UK economy and that of the world is in MELTDOWN, Luton is not doing too bad currently.
4 movements more in June 2008 than 2007!
Anyone care to guess at the negative growth for November when the Winter schedules kick in (I am talking UK movements)?
Whilst the UK economy and that of the world is in MELTDOWN, Luton is not doing too bad currently.
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Regarding Wizz, fine outfit as they are, they are mainly dependent on the flow of Polish and other eastern European migrants working in the UK. Recent big cutbacks in the workforce of UK housing and construction companies is surely going to affect their employment prospects. I've already heard reports that some of them can no longer afford to live in the UK. This doesn't bode well for Wizz's routes into LTN until the economy picks up again.
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Meltdown - Too true.
Sorry mods - not being very light hearted - Re Buster's comments about a meltdown seem all too apposite. The phrase "Freefall Freefall" seems to seems to ring all too true. PS can Buster bring back his grisley ! - Bear with a sore empennage seems to fit the bill.
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Sky Europe and Wizz are both vulnerable here. And EZY routes to eastern Europe; probably the first to go.
Monarch and Thomson are perhaps the least vulnerable; people will have thier holiday whatever and in a down turn they are well placed to negotiate hard with hoteliers etc on price.
Monarch and Thomson are perhaps the least vulnerable; people will have thier holiday whatever and in a down turn they are well placed to negotiate hard with hoteliers etc on price.