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In reality were talking of 2 flights a week briging no more than 600 passenger a week to/from the airport... It's barely big news!
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well it seems easyjet are announcing new routes at luton again. 3 new ones just started this month and now announced today 2 more
sharm el shiek and phaphos both 3 times weekly starting november
sharm el shiek and phaphos both 3 times weekly starting november
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LTNMan you make some very good points, but they only highlight the points that I have made before, ie STN and LTN are very different Airports, it doesn't matter how you dress it up and the injustice felt by many LTN fans about the selection of STN as Londons Third Airport, but it happened for a LOGICAL reason. I try to keep quiet, but Buster the whatevers constant anti-STN tirade f**ks me off, maybe I'm just taking the bait, but I suspect he is one of a dying breed that just can't 'get over it' and originally I hadn't included you in that group! I thought that once you visited STN it gave you a wider perspective? I have worked at both Airports, so I feel at least a bit qualified to be a bit objective! As regards to R26, if you were on a flight from China on a BA B777 and land at LHR, very newsworthy, at STN pretty much the same, at LTN? not good!!
As I've said before, LTN is a very good REGIONAL Airport, but that's it!
As I've said before, LTN is a very good REGIONAL Airport, but that's it!
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With regard to the "free" drop off/pick up/60mins free parking now in operation in the Mid-Term car park, to encourage people to not use the £1 drop off zone, can anyone tell me if a designated area has been built for this purpose, or do you just park wherever you can find a space, alongside the normal long term parking. If not, then meeting someone off the transfer bus could be confusing, as they may not know where their pickup is parked, and where to get off the bus.
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I used the midterm on Wednesday for my free hour and had a problem finding a parking space, as it is not until I drove further away from the entrance that spaces started to appear.
When I was walking back to the entrance of the car park I did come across a set of empty parking bays opposite the entrance marked drop off that had hatched lines around them that were empty and unused. Can’t see a reason why in these early days why a car could not just sit there with a driver.
When I was walking back to the entrance of the car park I did come across a set of empty parking bays opposite the entrance marked drop off that had hatched lines around them that were empty and unused. Can’t see a reason why in these early days why a car could not just sit there with a driver.
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As I've said before, LTN is a very good REGIONAL Airport, but that's it!
Heathrow - Premium airlines
Gatwick - Low cost airlines and charter flights
Luton -Low cost airlines and executive jet traffic
London City – Premium passengers and executive jet traffic.
Stansted - Low cost airlines.
Stansted is no different to Luton and could be classed as a regional airport if you wish to describe Luton as a regional airport. Despite its higher passenger numbers due to and only because of Ryanair it serves a region including London. Luton also serves a region including London but Luton is easier to get to if you don’t live in North London and use public transport or are travelling down from the Midlands or Northern England.
Luton is by the UK’s main north south motorway. It also has direct mainline rail access to not only North London and the City but South London, the south east and the south coast. Heading the other way Luton has direct trains to Leicester, Sheffield, Nottingham and even Lincoln.
Stansted is a great airport for the low cost carriers but so is Luton. Luton folk know this but it seems that Stansted fans seem to think their airport is on a different level to Luton yet both airports have the same public perceptions. It is just a fact that Luton has a bigger catchment area and for most people is easier to get to.
Stansted does have a big airport feel about it but big is not always better as Stansted passengers find out nightly as they wait for their baggage.
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But at least STN doen't look like a building site like LTN has for the last 25 years 
The only time LTN had decent drop off points for the passengers was way back in the 70's and early 80's when you could literally leave your car at the front of the terminal, go inside and check in, then return to the car to park it in one of the long term car parks. I know this to be true, I did it and returned to fetch said MGB GT to find someone had dinged it whilst I was inside
Things have obviously moved on since those days when Monarch had 1-11's and BMA used a Viscount to Jersey (lol) but lets face it, the layout of LTN now is just awful
The only time LTN had decent drop off points for the passengers was way back in the 70's and early 80's when you could literally leave your car at the front of the terminal, go inside and check in, then return to the car to park it in one of the long term car parks. I know this to be true, I did it and returned to fetch said MGB GT to find someone had dinged it whilst I was inside
Things have obviously moved on since those days when Monarch had 1-11's and BMA used a Viscount to Jersey (lol) but lets face it, the layout of LTN now is just awful
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But at least STN doen't look like a building site like LTN has for the last 25 years
The only time LTN had decent drop off points for the passengers was way back in the 70's and early 80's when you could literally leave your car at the front of the terminal, go inside and check in, then return to the car to park it in one of the long term car parks. I know this to be true, I did it and returned to fetch said MGB GT to find someone had dinged it whilst I was inside
Things have obviously moved on since those days when Monarch had 1-11's and BMA used a Viscount to Jersey (lol) but lets face it, the layout of LTN now is just awful
The only time LTN had decent drop off points for the passengers was way back in the 70's and early 80's when you could literally leave your car at the front of the terminal, go inside and check in, then return to the car to park it in one of the long term car parks. I know this to be true, I did it and returned to fetch said MGB GT to find someone had dinged it whilst I was inside
Things have obviously moved on since those days when Monarch had 1-11's and BMA used a Viscount to Jersey (lol) but lets face it, the layout of LTN now is just awful
LTN over the last 10-15yrs has been a patchwork of cost saving extensions and add-ons, constantly plugging the gaps within the infastrusture they have! I know airports are not designed to look all that attractive, but as I have stated before the Central Terminal Area, just looks a mess too, with this hodgepodge of dated buildings.
In the now defunct masterplan, I now think the airport should have been totally rebuilt over the southern side of the runway. The airports CTA cannot really continue in the long term (10yrs +) on the current site it has without major redevelopment.
The existing Apron and Hangars are what causes the airport the most headaches when it comes to extending where it sits now!
I rember back in the 1990's there were plans for a futuristic Transport Interchange for the town and airport, I tink roughly where LTN Parkway stands now and all passengers would access the airport here and then be transported to the main terminal by monorail or some other form of people movers...
But it is not just LTN in this situation it is many other UK airports too, we just seem to have this philosophy in this country of making do with what we have and never planning for the long term! The M1 is a good example, the M1 shold have been four lanes in each direction over 20yrs ago, and it wasn't until the situation reached critical the government decided to act. But instead of installing 4 lanes we should maybe have looked at 5 lanes to ensure the motorway can accomodate the additional traffic for the next 20yrs plus without further major redevelopment!
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Chopper69 you said and I quote "Buster the whatevers constant anti-STN tirade f**ks me off". Why do you read my posts, all are factual and accurate, maybe the truth hurts?
Come the BAA's 'Fire Sale' of Stansted, let us see how long it takes the new owner to commit Runway 2? Anyway, London's third airport should have been at (Bear)Cub-lington! Mr 1 Bravo might agree
At the time HM Govt policy prevented LBC and other local authorities from borrowing (adding to the PSBR) to improve their airports. Had the rules been different back in the mid to late 1980's, Luton would have emerged from that period radically different and so would many other regional airports. The BAA albeit a 'public' company was not saddled with this decree. Mr Relic knows as well as me, the financial handcuffing that prevented Luton from growing back then, in fact the proposals for a new runway, tinminal and associated stands south of the existing runway drawn by the current airport operator, looked very similar to designs that existed 30 years ago.
Anyway, I am really rather proud that my posts wind some folk up!
I recently flew into Gatwick and I parked close to the south terminal. It took 1 hour and 50 minutes from arriving on stand to reaching my car and Gatwick was not particularly busy. Any comments about access at Luton make me smile.
Come the BAA's 'Fire Sale' of Stansted, let us see how long it takes the new owner to commit Runway 2? Anyway, London's third airport should have been at (Bear)Cub-lington! Mr 1 Bravo might agree
At the time HM Govt policy prevented LBC and other local authorities from borrowing (adding to the PSBR) to improve their airports. Had the rules been different back in the mid to late 1980's, Luton would have emerged from that period radically different and so would many other regional airports. The BAA albeit a 'public' company was not saddled with this decree. Mr Relic knows as well as me, the financial handcuffing that prevented Luton from growing back then, in fact the proposals for a new runway, tinminal and associated stands south of the existing runway drawn by the current airport operator, looked very similar to designs that existed 30 years ago.
Anyway, I am really rather proud that my posts wind some folk up!
I recently flew into Gatwick and I parked close to the south terminal. It took 1 hour and 50 minutes from arriving on stand to reaching my car and Gatwick was not particularly busy. Any comments about access at Luton make me smile.
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I recently flew into Gatwick and I parked close to the south terminal. It took 1 hour and 50 minutes from arriving on stand to reaching my car and Gatwick was not particularly busy. Any comments about access at Luton make me smile.
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Buster think there is only one person getting wound up here, as you always come back repeating the information. As I've said before you have more repeats than........?? are you a founding member?
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So, after the master plan was withdrawn they say that they are now focused on making the most of their current facilities - what does this mean and is there any plans for future expansion? Wasn't the terminal designed to cope with around 5m passengers pa and now it is operating at over 10m?
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Wasn't the terminal designed to cope with around 5m passengers pa and now it is operating at over 10m?
Answer, tell everyone that it has a capacity of only 5 million which was passed in the year the terminal opened.
There were questions asked at committee meetings when Luton passed 5 million passengers but the terminal still appeared to be half empty.
It was only in 2004 that the 1st floor of the terminal was brought into service together with its pier.
Changing the subject it looks like even more yellow signs have gone up stating that there is a charge to drop off and that the midterm has 60 minutes of free parking.
Got to say that tonight at 18:30 there were plenty of cars going in and out of the car park. The drop off zone was congestion free but there were still plenty of cars parked up in the zone. The wording that states that there is a £80 fine for staying more than 10 minutes is in very small writing and the few drivers I mentioned it to were horrified when I pointed out the number plate readers at either end. I wonder if the airport will be sending out the fines or just warning letters?
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Luton doing their best to give the customer great value and service.
I guess someone has to pay for the number plate recognition kit...
Notice how the customer is shafted compared to the staff:
I guess someone has to pay for the number plate recognition kit...
Notice how the customer is shafted compared to the staff:
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Whether you agree with the charges or not, the signs all seem clear enough to me...
The small writing regarding the £80 fine is clear enough too and is standard to other signs I have seen...
Im sure some LTN armchair directors will have alternative views, and be writing to the management requesting the re-word the signs!
Any chance of now putting the set down area discussions to bed now?
The small writing regarding the £80 fine is clear enough too and is standard to other signs I have seen...
Im sure some LTN armchair directors will have alternative views, and be writing to the management requesting the re-word the signs!
Any chance of now putting the set down area discussions to bed now?
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Luton airport misery as drop-off fee causes chaos -Times Online
They had better get it sorted by October otherwise I am joining LADACAN!
They had better get it sorted by October otherwise I am joining LADACAN!
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Well that was a waste of newspaper print, the roads have been gridlocked for months now and the £1 only came in on Wednesday, so that is not the reason for the gridlock.
If you all lived in Luton like l do, then you would understand the reasons for the gridlocked roads.
It is all part of the road management of Luton's roads, it has been the same throughout the town for a number of years.
We have some of the safest roads in the country, road deaths down year on year.
So now you all know why, it is very difficult to have a fatal road accident if you rarely get above 5 miles an hour.
If you all lived in Luton like l do, then you would understand the reasons for the gridlocked roads.
It is all part of the road management of Luton's roads, it has been the same throughout the town for a number of years.
We have some of the safest roads in the country, road deaths down year on year.
So now you all know why, it is very difficult to have a fatal road accident if you rarely get above 5 miles an hour.
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Looking at the pics of the new signs that have gone up about the £1 drop off fee, I notice it has APCOA on the sign, APCOA being the Airport Parking Company Of America who run the car parks
Would I be right in saying it is them who have introduced this charge and not the airport? Would NCP have introduced this charge if they still run the car parks?
Would I be right in saying it is them who have introduced this charge and not the airport? Would NCP have introduced this charge if they still run the car parks?