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Old 7th Jul 2010, 04:26
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I think that's a slightly harsh comment towards B'mth fans, there's nothing really wrong with the road links in the main, it's just the last couple of miles that needs seeing to, apart from that the M27, wessex way etc is up to scratch from the north, east & west approaches. Rail links to B'mth, Poole, Christchurch are able to move punters around with ease aswell, like I said it's just the last bit that needs a tweek by local councils.
In fairness it's not been high on their agenda either up till now to spend "big money" on links to a small airport, but now that "Mag" has done it's bit then maybe they will spend a bit, but what do you want.. a train station next to the terminal??
As for FR moving out well yes it's a bit of a worry, but then I've never heard of an aiport closing just because 1 carrier is opting out!
Airlines have come & gone before & they will do so in the future, that's the nature of the game, but how many airlines have been put off coming to BOH because of FR, now they may have another look at the airport with fresh ideas & no silly competition!!
Could be just good news for BOH.. Look on the bright side
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 06:21
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Well said Thaimike
Bournemouth station is only a few minutes away (dependent on traffic!)
Just because SOU has a station across the road doesnt mean its essential - very few regional airports have this facility
There is a regular connecting bus which is usually empty and taxis galore -
the main problem is the road connection. Parley Lane cannot even cope with normal local traffic let alone increased airport pax

We may all be jumping the gun here - Ryanair may be withdrawing based a/c but so what, many services can be provided by a/c based elsewhere
only time will tell.
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 06:27
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Less gloom

BOH road links are a whole lot better than BRS!

FR has a long history at the airport without a based aircraft. They will sustain routes that work. So what if there's no base? What matters is the route network. Whetehr operated by remotely based aircraft or not.

And be sure if FR take their eye off the ball, another carrier will take a look for sure.

FR is here to stay.

Expect to see more interest from Flybe....

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Old 7th Jul 2010, 07:39
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I think the powers that be know about the road links very well, but it's Christchurch and Dorset Councils fault not Bournemouth Airport['s. So many surveys have been carried out along those roads and it's been proven that much of the traffic is non-airport. The roads are a convenient cut through for Poole to Christchurch traffic and vise-versa.

So if Ryanair pull out, someone will step in or build up. The very fact that Ryanair had two aircraft based at Bournemouth was probably a contributing factor that other airlines stayed away. Even the doom-mongers cannot ignore the fact that Ryanair had some very good loads and there's a market to fly from Bournemouth.

So don't write off Bournemouth because Ryanair may be pulling, out the senior staff may be down to announce more based aircraft, let's wait a while and all will be revealed.

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Old 7th Jul 2010, 08:35
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This will bring the airport to its knee's this winter making it impossible for any third partys to operate.
Even if the first part of Superspur's post is correct the sentence above is ridiculous!

If FR were to pull out (and they won't be - as mentioned above many routes can be operated by FR aircraft based at the other end) the absence of FR would encourage others in - just look how Thomson deserted their initial route network when FR moved in.

A reduce FR presence could be good for Palmair as well.
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 08:42
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The jobs and prosperity for the region that a base creates is very valuable. it does matter if they close it down. it will be terrible for the area. if they can get easyJet to come in and replace them then great.

Ryanair only just today launched their winter capacity from LBA so dont lose heart just yet. Lets wait and see what tomorrow brings.
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 08:52
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...and

Ryanair have historically announced winter routes from BOH in late July..
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Looks like the Echo has now picked up the story..

Is Ryanair about to take flight from Bournemouth Airport? (From Bournemouth Echo)
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 13:20
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The article says that the Ryanair crew have been told to meet the senior airline directors of HR and flight op's tomorrow in the Bournemouth crew room. That is NOT good news. But to be honest i think this is probably to announce a reduction (from 2 to 1 aircraft for the winter season only) rather than a total withdrawal. But whichever way you cut it, it will be bad news.

And bad news for the credibility of the airport. Other airlines will not be lining up to come in to Bournemouth as others have speculated. They will be concerned that if Ryanair can't make it work, no-one can.
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 14:00
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If FR want to clear off then let them, BOH will be will rid. Look at MAN, there're doing well without them because they refused FR's demands.

Given time and a good marketing strategy by the airport authorities, then other carriers will come.
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 14:31
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Bournemouth is probably at best a marginal airport for Ryanair who are still smarting at been faced down by MAG at Manchester, this is another prod and probably part of a wider spat that will take in EMA i suspect in due course.

Given Jet2 historic connections with BOH how long before friendlier low fares turn up at BOH?
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 15:02
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I find it interesting when anyone discusses FR and MAG they refer to what happened at Manchester and completely ignore the size of the FR operation at EMA
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 15:06
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Ryanair pax numbers

What % of BOH pax are Ryanair ? In the event they withdraw completely (worst case) what is the likely impact on pax ?
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I find it interesting when anyone discusses FR and MAG they refer to what happened at Manchester and completely ignore the size of the FR operation at EMA
I can't see what that has to do with anything. FR have made an impact at EMA and LBA - for now. Given time they will no doubt cut back if the numbers start to fall for what ever reason.
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FR contribution to passenger numbers at BOH

By my calculations (from CAA data):

In 2008, Ryanair carried 530k passengers in and out of BOH. The BOH total was 1,079k. So Ryanair carried 49% of all BOH passengers in 2008.

In 2009, Ryanair carried 593k passengers in and out of BOH. The BOH total was 868k. So Ryanair carried 68% of all BOH passengers in 2009.

In May 2010, Ryanair carried 48k out of 75.7k, which is just under 64% of all BOH passengers.
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 16:02
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Thanks
Bigger share than I expected
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 17:07
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Considering EZY seems to think that it now has bigger fish to fry, LS is the only real possibilty at moving in. WW has already said that they are going to be concentrating on the midlands and the BOH-JER route didnt really work out for them.
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 17:12
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Crewmeal Manchester Airport doing well?

PASSENGER numbers at Manchester Airport dipped below two million last month as consumers continued to rein in their spending, figures showed today.

The number of travellers who passed through the terminals was 1.95m, down from 2.14m compared with the same month last year, a fall of 8.8 per cent.

Charter traffic saw the biggest drop, down 13 per cent from 852,757 to 741,813.

A spokesman said: “In common with the industry, when compared to last year, September’s passengers numbers are down.

“This is a consequence of people being more careful with their money although the all-important annual summer holidays still took place.
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Old 7th Jul 2010, 18:51
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These figures are Sept 09 !!!!!!!!!!!

Only down 0.44% in June !
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Old 8th Jul 2010, 10:21
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Forget Ryanair

Palmair and Thomson are laughing

Lol
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