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It seems strange to me that since the mention of Ryanair pulling out from BOH for the winter there's not been one mention of it on BOH officiall website. To me this seems a bit strange shouldn't they they announce it and tell people of their intensions or do they not rearly care.It would be good if someone from the airport to reply to this.
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Agree. The 88 seater ERJ 170 would be perfect for BOH. Good profits could be made with this to Glasgow, Edinburgh, Dublin, Belfast, Jersey, Paris, Amsterdam....but pigs will fly before this happens me thinks....
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The ERJ 175 would also work very well out of SOU, all it needs is BAA to get their fingers out and work out where/how they are going to park them. Thank a previous MD for building a multi storey car park up to the apron boundary fence, against the advice of his staff, killing any chance of apron development to take larger aircraft.
The ERJ 175 would also work very well out of SOU, all it needs is BAA to get their fingers out and work out where/how they are going to park them. Thank a previous MD for building a multi storey car park up to the apron boundary fence, against the advice of his staff, killing any chance of apron development to take larger aircraft.
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Just to clarify, the roll eye's icon I used was for the fact that the FR pull-out was only announced/buried on the airports twit.ter feed which hardly anyone follows (unless you want to win free luggage tags) rather than formally announced on the main web site.
Wasn't aimed at you in the slightest and apologies if it was taken in that way.
Pax
Just to clarify, the roll eye's icon I used was for the fact that the FR pull-out was only announced/buried on the airports twit.ter feed which hardly anyone follows (unless you want to win free luggage tags) rather than formally announced on the main web site.
Wasn't aimed at you in the slightest and apologies if it was taken in that way.
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Cleme 1 Re: B'mth website
In all probability the answer to your question is what airport wants to further advertise bad publicity by plastering it's losses all over their main website.
B'mth will do what it does best, bury it's head in the sand until Feb & then when Ryanair come knocking on the door for their special package they will bend over backwards (or is it forwards) to welcome them back with open arms!!
What they should be doing is giving Ryanair their marching orders & get the marketing dept (do they have one) into gear & get a lot more business in from several other carriers who can better serve the area/customers instead of relying on just one
airline who's sole aim in life is to keep everyone else out!!
But that's just my humble opinion of course.
B'mth will do what it does best, bury it's head in the sand until Feb & then when Ryanair come knocking on the door for their special package they will bend over backwards (or is it forwards) to welcome them back with open arms!!
What they should be doing is giving Ryanair their marching orders & get the marketing dept (do they have one) into gear & get a lot more business in from several other carriers who can better serve the area/customers instead of relying on just one
airline who's sole aim in life is to keep everyone else out!!But that's just my humble opinion of course.
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Thaimike is just spot on,I sent an email to BOH Airport last week Re Ryanair and the way they have BOH over a barrel etc and all I got back was an email full of excuses ie current financial climate,its always quiet for those 3 months of the year and flights will be back in Feb.I also mentioned that Bristol Airport were advertising in BOH Echo a promotion for BOH passengers booking flights from Bristol to take advantage of cheaper car parking for those 3 months.BOH said its only for a short term and from Feb flights will be back.This is typical of BOH ,its so frustrating, why can't we have proper people running the Airport,its like the new terminal,granted its great and 100% better than before but have you ever heard of an airport building a new terminal but not starting Arrivals at the same time,that can only happen in the UK.
Thaimike is just spot on,I sent an email to BOH Airport last week Re Ryanair and the way they have BOH over a barrel etc and all I got back was an email full of excuses ie current financial climate,its always quiet for those 3 months of the year and flights will be back in Feb.I also mentioned that Bristol Airport were advertising in BOH Echo a promotion for BOH passengers booking flights from Bristol to take advantage of cheaper car parking for those 3 months.BOH said its only for a short term and from Feb flights will be back.This is typical of BOH ,its so frustrating, why can't we have proper people running the Airport,its like the new terminal,granted its great and 100% better than before but have you ever heard of an airport building a new terminal but not starting Arrivals at the same time,that can only happen in the UK.
What they should be doing is giving Ryanair their marching orders
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Instead of giving them their "marching orders" you could ask them to pay the same as all the other operators and not offer them special deals based on the false promises they have made in the past or in the future.
I am sure you wouldn't see them for dust.
Let's face it they have Shafted the Airport and a long list of locally employed staff that will now be out of work !
Taxi Drivers - Handling Agents - Retailers - Fuelers -Their own local Crew ( although they are probably used to it by now ) - Airport staff - Hire Car Co's etc etc etc
Not to mention the customers that used to Fly with them on a regular Basis.
Well Done Ryanair 
Please come back in February ! Can't seem to find the Bending over smiley, maybe they should add one for use on the BOH thread.
I am sure you wouldn't see them for dust.
Let's face it they have Shafted the Airport and a long list of locally employed staff that will now be out of work !
Taxi Drivers - Handling Agents - Retailers - Fuelers -Their own local Crew ( although they are probably used to it by now ) - Airport staff - Hire Car Co's etc etc etc
Not to mention the customers that used to Fly with them on a regular Basis.
Well Done Ryanair Please come back in February ! Can't seem to find the Bending over smiley, maybe they should add one for use on the BOH thread.
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Goodbye Ryanair
"Dillthedog"
Thanks for your response to Groundloop, my thought's totally.
Of course BOH coudn't just ask Ryanair politely to go away, that would be so unjust after all their great service over the years & of course "against all rules & regs" no doubt, but let's see how long they would stick around with a level playing field trying to vie for customers.
Ryanair I'm sorry to burst your "bubble" but customers at BOH do not share your dream that you are the worlds best airline,
they use you because you are the only choice to certain destinations, if you had any competition to any destination for the same price you wouldn't stand a chance!!
The only way you can operate is to get a special deal form the airport so you can undercut the likes of "Thomson" etc then dictate what you can or cannot do without fear of retribution!!
Maybe just maybe 1 day BOH will wake up & smell the coffee and make life hard for you to stick around, then maybe just maybe BOH will attract decent carriers with decent track records & slowly but surely claw it'self back to being a decent airport.
Again just my humble opinion.
Thanks for your response to Groundloop, my thought's totally.
Of course BOH coudn't just ask Ryanair politely to go away, that would be so unjust after all their great service over the years & of course "against all rules & regs" no doubt, but let's see how long they would stick around with a level playing field trying to vie for customers.
Ryanair I'm sorry to burst your "bubble" but customers at BOH do not share your dream that you are the worlds best airline,
they use you because you are the only choice to certain destinations, if you had any competition to any destination for the same price you wouldn't stand a chance!!
The only way you can operate is to get a special deal form the airport so you can undercut the likes of "Thomson" etc then dictate what you can or cannot do without fear of retribution!!
Maybe just maybe 1 day BOH will wake up & smell the coffee and make life hard for you to stick around, then maybe just maybe BOH will attract decent carriers with decent track records & slowly but surely claw it'self back to being a decent airport.
Again just my humble opinion.
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You talk about fr getting special deals from boh then can someone explain what is stopping other airlines getting the same deal at boh then they will have a level playing field will they not?
The problem is that no other airline can go to an airport and say we will deliver x pax per year for the deal so stop bashing fr as any operator with this power behind them would do the same.
You talk about fr getting special deals from boh then can someone explain what is stopping other airlines getting the same deal at boh then they will have a level playing field will they not?
The problem is that no other airline can go to an airport and say we will deliver x pax per year for the deal so stop bashing fr as any operator with this power behind them would do the same.
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The very same people knocking FR now will be the very same people flying with FR now and when they come back in the spring ! If the price is right the moral stance flies!
FR know that, they are in a win win situation !
FR know that, they are in a win win situation !
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I fly with them now, I will fly with them when they are not at BOH and I will certainly fly with them when / if they come back.
I do not dislike Ryanair per say.
The point I make is whilst they play their Power Games with The Manchester Airport Group. lots of decent hard working people in the BOH Airport set up as mentioned before, will have ****ty 3 months and may loose their jobs or have to relocate to find work.
The reason Ryanair give for the 3 month break is BULL**** ! It's an oppertunity to exert further pressure to get a better deal, or just a little revenge for the Manchester Airport Situation, when they didn't get their own way.
A real kick in the Balls for MAG ( who cares ) but the unfortunate local workers who will suffer as a result.
Still 1500 new jobs in Seville !
Bank Robbers you can admire ! But people that steal from your house on Christmas Eve ??
I do not dislike Ryanair per say.
The point I make is whilst they play their Power Games with The Manchester Airport Group. lots of decent hard working people in the BOH Airport set up as mentioned before, will have ****ty 3 months and may loose their jobs or have to relocate to find work.
The reason Ryanair give for the 3 month break is BULL**** ! It's an oppertunity to exert further pressure to get a better deal, or just a little revenge for the Manchester Airport Situation, when they didn't get their own way.
A real kick in the Balls for MAG ( who cares ) but the unfortunate local workers who will suffer as a result.
Still 1500 new jobs in Seville !
Bank Robbers you can admire ! But people that steal from your house on Christmas Eve ??
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"The very same people knocking FR now will be the very same people flying with FR now and when they come back in the spring ! If the price is right the moral stance flies"
Right from day 1 when Ryanair scuppered "BUZZ" from starting at the airport. I had an inclination that there would be tears at the end of the day if they ever let the likes of MOL into B'mth.
They came in with their false promises of future plans to get an unfair deal, then tried to force out any competition that was around with their unfair hand, so what happens when it's time for them to deliver on their promise?? NOTHING!!
BOH should have the gut's to say to Ryanair & their false promises.. Sorry due to the same economic circumstances we can no longer keep the present prices as they are but will have to raise them to keep the airport viable, then see what MOL would do!!
Mag had the gut's to do it up north & watch them walk away, so let's see what MAG lead B'mth will do.
Oh bye the way Qwerty9
I do practice what I preach, I have never & will never travel with Pikey airway's even at 1penny a trip, I wouldn't set foot near his airline, I detest his practices & vote with my feet!!!
Right from day 1 when Ryanair scuppered "BUZZ" from starting at the airport. I had an inclination that there would be tears at the end of the day if they ever let the likes of MOL into B'mth.
They came in with their false promises of future plans to get an unfair deal, then tried to force out any competition that was around with their unfair hand, so what happens when it's time for them to deliver on their promise?? NOTHING!!
BOH should have the gut's to say to Ryanair & their false promises.. Sorry due to the same economic circumstances we can no longer keep the present prices as they are but will have to raise them to keep the airport viable, then see what MOL would do!!
Mag had the gut's to do it up north & watch them walk away, so let's see what MAG lead B'mth will do.
Oh bye the way Qwerty9
I do practice what I preach, I have never & will never travel with Pikey airway's even at 1penny a trip, I wouldn't set foot near his airline, I detest his practices & vote with my feet!!!
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Bournemouth handled 84 , 841 passengers in June - 3 % on last year but if you take away the loss of PIK , EDI , LIG , MRS and CCS routes ( lost a few routes you could say ! ) the figures are not so bad
Thomson with there up graded 737 800 have done well with there new routes and went out in the high 90 % this month with Turkey and Monastir doing well
Sharm went out about 80%
Manchester with FlyBe is a bit of a concern though for the first month
with load factors in the 40%
Lets hope that Thomson put on a few more services this winter to cover for Ryanair as there are a few spare days where the aircraft has down time at Bournemouth
Thomson with there up graded 737 800 have done well with there new routes and went out in the high 90 % this month with Turkey and Monastir doing well
Sharm went out about 80%
Manchester with FlyBe is a bit of a concern though for the first month
with load factors in the 40%
Lets hope that Thomson put on a few more services this winter to cover for Ryanair as there are a few spare days where the aircraft has down time at Bournemouth
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Manchester route.
Markeyd
With regards to the 40% load factor quoted for the Flybe/manchester route, what a/c is being used, & is the depature/arrival sheduled at favourable times?
If the daily pax total is acceptable then it would indicate that a smaller a/c is required to make it a profitable route, if not then an adjustment to the sheduled times would surely be benificial, unless it's on a "W" sector & the results are what they are from BOH because of this.
I'm positive that an airline with half a dozen 80-90 seat capacity a/c could move into BOH to operate UK/Euro city routes & make an absolute killing, even if Ryanair return in the spring.
With regards to the 40% load factor quoted for the Flybe/manchester route, what a/c is being used, & is the depature/arrival sheduled at favourable times?
If the daily pax total is acceptable then it would indicate that a smaller a/c is required to make it a profitable route, if not then an adjustment to the sheduled times would surely be benificial, unless it's on a "W" sector & the results are what they are from BOH because of this.
I'm positive that an airline with half a dozen 80-90 seat capacity a/c could move into BOH to operate UK/Euro city routes & make an absolute killing, even if Ryanair return in the spring.