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The other 'alf said it was mentioned on local BBC TV news that Ryanair were operating through winter from BOH but reducing a/c, one or none?
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Lots of articles in today's Bournemouth Echo but still no clearer idea of what is going to happen this winter at BOH. Seems we have to wait until next week to find out.
Ryanair decision: Could it boost Bournemouth Airport's operation? (From Bournemouth Echo)
Ryanair's future at Bournemouth Airport still unclear (From Bournemouth Echo)
A wing and a prayer? (From Bournemouth Echo)
Surprisingly well written and balanced pieces from a newspaper not renowned for its quality journalism!
LT
Ryanair decision: Could it boost Bournemouth Airport's operation? (From Bournemouth Echo)
Ryanair's future at Bournemouth Airport still unclear (From Bournemouth Echo)
A wing and a prayer? (From Bournemouth Echo)
Surprisingly well written and balanced pieces from a newspaper not renowned for its quality journalism!
LT
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Not good news on the FR front, as reported in the FR thread, all flights from BOH are no longer showing in the booking system after end of October. Until today about half showed as operating but not bookable.
Other news is that the June provisional stats have been published by the CAA and Manchester carried 1686 passengers in June, that works out to be 41% load factor for the whole month. Not good! Let's hope things have picked up. Could be a very empty new terminal come the winter.
Other news is that the June provisional stats have been published by the CAA and Manchester carried 1686 passengers in June, that works out to be 41% load factor for the whole month. Not good! Let's hope things have picked up. Could be a very empty new terminal come the winter.
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I still can't believe FR are pulling out of BOH completely. Even if they stop it as a base then they must still operate in and out from other airports. Let's hope something appears on the timetables soon.
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Looks they will take a break
Ryanair suspend all winter services from Bournemouth Airport (From Thisisdorset)
Ryanair suspend all winter services from Bournemouth Airport (From Thisisdorset)
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FR Boh operation
Pax numbers are constantly over 85% and the base ancillery sales are constantly in the top 2 (of 40+) bases. Do you really think this is a base with an axe hanging over it!
Well that was said last week by a Ryanair insider! Do you care to comment again, perhaps following today's anouncement?
Well that was said last week by a Ryanair insider! Do you care to comment again, perhaps following today's anouncement?
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Ryanair 2011 flights from Bournemouth
Alicante - Tues, Thur, Sat - Bournemouth a/c
Faro - Thur, Sun - Faro a/c
Fuerteventura - Wed - Bournemouth a/c
Girona - Mon, Fri - Bournemouth a/c
Gran Canaria - Sun - Bournemouth a/c
Lanzarote - Thur - Bournemouth a/c
Malaga - Sun, Wed - Bournemouth a/c
Tenerife South - Mon, Fri - Bournemouth a/c
Dublin, Ibiza, Malta, Murcia, Palma Mallorca, Pisa & Valencia have being dropped for good.
Also only one based a/c.
(timetable effective from Feb to end of Mar)
Faro - Thur, Sun - Faro a/c
Fuerteventura - Wed - Bournemouth a/c
Girona - Mon, Fri - Bournemouth a/c
Gran Canaria - Sun - Bournemouth a/c
Lanzarote - Thur - Bournemouth a/c
Malaga - Sun, Wed - Bournemouth a/c
Tenerife South - Mon, Fri - Bournemouth a/c
Dublin, Ibiza, Malta, Murcia, Palma Mallorca, Pisa & Valencia have being dropped for good.
Also only one based a/c.
(timetable effective from Feb to end of Mar)
(timetable effective from Feb to end of Mar)
Dublin, Ibiza, Malta, Murcia, Palma Mallorca, Pisa & Valencia have being dropped for good.
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Temporary cuts could be reviewed if UK govt stop £11 tax
Bournmouth winter schedule announced
Ryanair, the world’s favourite airline, today (15th July) confirmed that its Bournemouth base will operate on a nine month seasonal schedule as the UK Govt’s £11 tourist tax prevents its operations from the airport being economically viable during the winter months of November, December and January. Ryanair called on the Govt to axe the tax to allow Britain to return to tourism growth.
Ryanair’s Bournemouth flights will temporarily cease at the end of October and resume on 1st February, as part of Ryanair’s spring schedule
Ryanair’s decision to move to a seasonal nine month base operation at Bournemouth will be reviewed next summer when, based on market conditions and UK APD costs, it may return to a 12 month base operation at the airport. Ryanair has a long term and committed relationship to growing traffic at Bournemouth Airport and will review this temporary change subject to any change in APD.
Bournemouth Spring Routes
Alicante
Gran Canaria
Barcelona (Girona)
Lanzarote
Faro
Malaga
Fuerteventura
Tenerife
Ryanair’s Stephen McNamara said;
“We very much regret temporarily ceasing our operations at Bournemouth airport during November, December and January. However, the UK Govt’s £11 tourist tax makes it economically unviable for Ryanair to operate our low fares flights from Bournemouth during this period.
These flights and passengers would not be lost to Bournemouth if the Govt adopted the policies of the Dutch and Belgian Govt’s and axed their £11 tourist tax in order to increase tourism.
Ryanair, with the lowest costs and guaranteed lowest fares in Europe, is the only airline capable of retaining year round international tourism and business links for Bournemouth. However, these require low access costs, particularly through the low yielding winter months and in the absence of a commitment from the UK Govt to axe its £11 tourist tax Ryanair has no alternative but to temporarily cease these routes and develop its business elsewhere.
Ryanair will return to Bournemouth from the 1st February
RYANAIR TO SWITCH BOURNEMOUTH TO SEASONAL BASE
FLIGHTS TO OPERATE FEB-OCT DUE TO £11 TOURIST TAX
Ryanair, the world’s favourite airline, today (15th July) confirmed that its Bournemouth base will operate on a nine month seasonal schedule as the UK Govt’s £11 tourist tax prevents its operations from the airport being economically viable during the winter months of November, December and January. Ryanair called on the Govt to axe the tax to allow Britain to return to tourism growth.
Ryanair’s Bournemouth flights will temporarily cease at the end of October and resume on 1st February, as part of Ryanair’s spring schedule
Ryanair’s decision to move to a seasonal nine month base operation at Bournemouth will be reviewed next summer when, based on market conditions and UK APD costs, it may return to a 12 month base operation at the airport. Ryanair has a long term and committed relationship to growing traffic at Bournemouth Airport and will review this temporary change subject to any change in APD.
Bournemouth Spring Routes
Alicante
Gran Canaria
Barcelona (Girona)
Lanzarote
Faro
Malaga
Fuerteventura
Tenerife
Ryanair’s Stephen McNamara said;
“We very much regret temporarily ceasing our operations at Bournemouth airport during November, December and January. However, the UK Govt’s £11 tourist tax makes it economically unviable for Ryanair to operate our low fares flights from Bournemouth during this period.
These flights and passengers would not be lost to Bournemouth if the Govt adopted the policies of the Dutch and Belgian Govt’s and axed their £11 tourist tax in order to increase tourism.
Ryanair, with the lowest costs and guaranteed lowest fares in Europe, is the only airline capable of retaining year round international tourism and business links for Bournemouth. However, these require low access costs, particularly through the low yielding winter months and in the absence of a commitment from the UK Govt to axe its £11 tourist tax Ryanair has no alternative but to temporarily cease these routes and develop its business elsewhere.
Ryanair will return to Bournemouth from the 1st February
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Why is it 'economically unviable' for Ryanair to operate from Bournemouth during November, December and January but obviously economically viable the rest of the year when the tourist tax also applies. 
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£11 tax?
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I feel compelled to ask the same question.. why is it suddenly so "unviable" to continue services just because of this increase.
If the consumer is willing to pay the extra £11 (who going by Ryanair's nature & past history would pass it onto) then why the problem??
Surely this is a level playing field with other airlines/airports I don't see them shutting down services for the winter!
If it's unviable now then what was the difference last winter with low yields?
If as you "quote" you are the worlds favourite airline, & have the cheapest tickets available, then surely all things being proportional & equal you will still come out on top at the end of the day!!!!
Or am I missing something??.. R1
I feel compelled to ask the same question.. why is it suddenly so "unviable" to continue services just because of this increase.
If the consumer is willing to pay the extra £11 (who going by Ryanair's nature & past history would pass it onto) then why the problem??
Surely this is a level playing field with other airlines/airports I don't see them shutting down services for the winter!
If it's unviable now then what was the difference last winter with low yields?
If as you "quote" you are the worlds favourite airline, & have the cheapest tickets available, then surely all things being proportional & equal you will still come out on top at the end of the day!!!!
Or am I missing something??.. R1
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Nov, Dec & Jan are traditionally very weak months from BOH. There is zero inbound potential in these months. That, coupled with the incredibly weak yields we are likely to manage means the routes are less viable than the minimum baseline we target for ourselves. Every £1 increase in ultimate cost of travel from BOH has a direct impact on demand whether it is passed on or absorbed. This £11 tax together with the general sluggish economy and falling prosperity in the south means the aircraft are better deployed elsewhere i.e outside of the UK. These routes would become viable again if we see stronger economic recovery and a reduction in APD.
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Sorry but that is total nonsense.
If Bournemouth airport offered airport fees including handling and security charges FREE for those months, you would be operating.
What a mess the airport has gotten themselves in. Now they are completely screwed! On two levels:
1) Ryanair have publicly stated they are the 'only' airline that can offer year round viable links from Bournemouth, and have vowed to come back with a 'full timetable'. Talk about staking your claim on the airport... This will totally disuade other carriers from now stepping in.
2) Ryanair are using BOH as a bargaining chip for lower airport fees and UK APD/Tourist tax. The airport could have averted being used in this way by taking Ryanair more seriously. After all they are the airport's number one airline in terms of volumes. Ryanair volumes have a serious positive impact on the revenues that the third parties in the terminal will make such as restaurants, shops, travel agents, car hire etc...
This is a complete disaster for the credibility of Bournemouth airport.
The ONLY other airline that could possibly make routes work from Bournemouth would be easyJet. They would want CERTAINTY that Ryanair wouldnt be coming back as the market is far too small for two major airlines.
And what does this now mean for the arrivals hall? Will it be 'paused'? Like it was in 1980! I still cannot believe that the airport has portacabin arrivals and a £45m departures.
If Bournemouth airport offered airport fees including handling and security charges FREE for those months, you would be operating.
What a mess the airport has gotten themselves in. Now they are completely screwed! On two levels:
1) Ryanair have publicly stated they are the 'only' airline that can offer year round viable links from Bournemouth, and have vowed to come back with a 'full timetable'. Talk about staking your claim on the airport... This will totally disuade other carriers from now stepping in.
2) Ryanair are using BOH as a bargaining chip for lower airport fees and UK APD/Tourist tax. The airport could have averted being used in this way by taking Ryanair more seriously. After all they are the airport's number one airline in terms of volumes. Ryanair volumes have a serious positive impact on the revenues that the third parties in the terminal will make such as restaurants, shops, travel agents, car hire etc...
This is a complete disaster for the credibility of Bournemouth airport.
The ONLY other airline that could possibly make routes work from Bournemouth would be easyJet. They would want CERTAINTY that Ryanair wouldnt be coming back as the market is far too small for two major airlines.
And what does this now mean for the arrivals hall? Will it be 'paused'? Like it was in 1980! I still cannot believe that the airport has portacabin arrivals and a £45m departures.