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Amadeus is probably the best site for searching for flights.
They mostly only have major full service arriers such as AA, BA etc. but smaller carriers all the way down to Manx2 use the service.
Used alot by business men/women but anybody can use it!
Just search in Google.
They mostly only have major full service arriers such as AA, BA etc. but smaller carriers all the way down to Manx2 use the service.
Used alot by business men/women but anybody can use it!
Just search in Google.
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I have been using Amadeus for years, but never found NM therein. However, 3W is.
As for the SWM - well, it's of equal interest to me as the D28 and L4T. I'm already booked on GLO-JER this July, which is likely to be opb the D28, and want to get on the SWM and L4T. Hence, I'm searching for some slightly more concrete info. And why not? One of the best bits about flying for me is the excitement of getting on different aircraft.
As for the SWM - well, it's of equal interest to me as the D28 and L4T. I'm already booked on GLO-JER this July, which is likely to be opb the D28, and want to get on the SWM and L4T. Hence, I'm searching for some slightly more concrete info. And why not? One of the best bits about flying for me is the excitement of getting on different aircraft.
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They seem to be the only airline really throwing things from the Island.
Yes, BE have started new routes etc. but alot are either re-instated or weekly flights that last for only 2 months.
M2 are giving so much back to the island:
1. Cheapest fares from the rock (£15 o/w inc. t&cs)
2. Frequent flights
3. Great, easy destinations
4. More jobs
5. More business
6. Re-vamped facilites with the Old BA hangar creating a new HQ and maintaince centre, helping 4. and 5. increase further.
Lets hope the M2 news keeps coming! 100k and not out!
Yes, BE have started new routes etc. but alot are either re-instated or weekly flights that last for only 2 months.
M2 are giving so much back to the island:
1. Cheapest fares from the rock (£15 o/w inc. t&cs)
2. Frequent flights
3. Great, easy destinations
4. More jobs
5. More business
6. Re-vamped facilites with the Old BA hangar creating a new HQ and maintaince centre, helping 4. and 5. increase further.
Lets hope the M2 news keeps coming! 100k and not out!
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How about the runway extension being approved by Government this week!
April 15th
Work on the runway extension at Ronaldsway will soon be able to get under way, following Tynwald approval of £44 million of funding for the project.
Transport Minister David Anderson's motion was passed unanimously by the Legislative Council, with two votes against in the House of Keys.
Prior to the vote members dismissed an amendment from Onchan MHK Peter Karran to have the figure cut to £20 million.
http://www.manxradio.com/readNewsItemo.aspx?oID=17449
April 15th
Work on the runway extension at Ronaldsway will soon be able to get under way, following Tynwald approval of £44 million of funding for the project.
Transport Minister David Anderson's motion was passed unanimously by the Legislative Council, with two votes against in the House of Keys.
Prior to the vote members dismissed an amendment from Onchan MHK Peter Karran to have the figure cut to £20 million.
http://www.manxradio.com/readNewsItemo.aspx?oID=17449
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Will any loco come into the island?
If anybody I would say EZY to LON.
A weekly ALC/AGP/PMI flight would work during the summer. Maybe one of the airlines could have a 'W' route through the IOM - would have the Manx people hours and alot of hassle at MAN, LGW etc.
If anybody I would say EZY to LON.
A weekly ALC/AGP/PMI flight would work during the summer. Maybe one of the airlines could have a 'W' route through the IOM - would have the Manx people hours and alot of hassle at MAN, LGW etc.
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Apparently the runway is being extended for safety reasons.
It will mean longer take off distances- so lowcosts- the answer is maybe.
Easyjet have started in Jersey but I don't think there is demand here.
Although they have held talks with Ronaldsway management and Easy's sticky points was the runway take off distance.
The Airport they claim the extention is due to EASA recomendations. It is not mandatory.
God knows what London City will do!
I have my doubts we actually need the extension at this time.
Just for the pontoon it will cost £800 per Manx household
It will mean longer take off distances- so lowcosts- the answer is maybe.
Easyjet have started in Jersey but I don't think there is demand here.
Although they have held talks with Ronaldsway management and Easy's sticky points was the runway take off distance.
The Airport they claim the extention is due to EASA recomendations. It is not mandatory.
God knows what London City will do!
I have my doubts we actually need the extension at this time.
Just for the pontoon it will cost £800 per Manx household
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Last thing the IOM needs is a longer runway. What if they get it and EZY come along. Pax numbers wont grow as theres no hotels and whod come to IOM rather than Spain, France etc. No, all it would do is kill all FlyBe and Euromanx ops . MAN and LPL would be 2x daily in a 7 3 and LGW 3x if you were lucky. Islands need smaller aircraft, shorter cheaper runways and frequency.
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Islands need smaller aircraft, shorter cheaper runways and frequency.
I understand what you are saying. The smaller operators are not able to compete with the larger a/c and as a result the frequencies drop.
However, I do think that a weekly flight to Spain would not go a miss from the Island. There are many people on the rock who I am sure will hate passing through LGW/MAN/LTN/BFS etc. when they could fly direct.
Holiday resorts - yes. Regional routes - no.
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Jetstream tech and MUFC are both right. Rather than waste £40m on a runway extension, apply the funds to a bit of route development. if BA can get an airbus out of LCY to the USA
, an airbus out of Ronaldsway to Europe can't be beyond possibility
if BA can get an airbus out of LCY to the USA, an airbus out of Ronaldsway to Europe can't be beyond possibility
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if BA can get an airbus out of LCY to the USA, an airbus out of Ronaldsway to Europe can't be beyond possibility
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if BA can get an airbus out of LCY to the USA - not quite. I believe a fuel stop at Shannon will be required. There's no way sufficient fuel for a trip across the pond (for an A319) plus passengers can be lifted out of LCY.
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So much wisdom, spot on.
Yes, the laws of supply and demand would mean a major Loco would kill off Flybe's plans to expand and offer additional services. There growth also relies on EMX giving up on MAN and LPL long term, simply because only one carrier can actually make money from the overall demand.
Even WITH the very low starter prices, the morning flights are hardly full right now, this surely means that you can't fill the plains by giving the seats away = limited demand.
If EMX were to concentrate on LCY, to give the Businessman the timing and route they need, then leave the bulk carrying to Flybe, with the thin niche routes for Manx2, then the Manx population WILL get reasonable prices, reasonable frequency and a good deal all round.
A year of Easyjet or Ryanair and the Airport will have more tumbleweeds than aircraft... with nothing on the pan overnight. In winter, how about once to LGW per day- nothing midweek. MAN twice, LPL twice, and nothing more....is that what we all want to see?
The Runway extension is for enlarged safety zones, not declared distances. I'll have more runoff if I need to stop, but I won't get more weight available for takeoff, or landing. It won't give me more fuel to go further, or more weight to use. The same for a 738 or A319.
What it will do is allow the IOM Airport to comply with EU-OPS airfield regulations and not get either declared unsafe or have reduced limits imposed on it by Cologne.
If that were to happen, the odd charter to Spain, as we have now will stop and the biggest aircraft you'll see here will be a half full 146/RJ or the Q400. Even the Q400 will be close to limits in Summer.
The Airport is doing the right thing to protect what we have now, no more , no less. Peter Karran is being a bit daft on this, and needs to understand a few truths, but is this unusual for our politicians?
Yes, the laws of supply and demand would mean a major Loco would kill off Flybe's plans to expand and offer additional services. There growth also relies on EMX giving up on MAN and LPL long term, simply because only one carrier can actually make money from the overall demand.
Even WITH the very low starter prices, the morning flights are hardly full right now, this surely means that you can't fill the plains by giving the seats away = limited demand.
If EMX were to concentrate on LCY, to give the Businessman the timing and route they need, then leave the bulk carrying to Flybe, with the thin niche routes for Manx2, then the Manx population WILL get reasonable prices, reasonable frequency and a good deal all round.
A year of Easyjet or Ryanair and the Airport will have more tumbleweeds than aircraft... with nothing on the pan overnight. In winter, how about once to LGW per day- nothing midweek. MAN twice, LPL twice, and nothing more....is that what we all want to see?
The Runway extension is for enlarged safety zones, not declared distances. I'll have more runoff if I need to stop, but I won't get more weight available for takeoff, or landing. It won't give me more fuel to go further, or more weight to use. The same for a 738 or A319.
What it will do is allow the IOM Airport to comply with EU-OPS airfield regulations and not get either declared unsafe or have reduced limits imposed on it by Cologne.
If that were to happen, the odd charter to Spain, as we have now will stop and the biggest aircraft you'll see here will be a half full 146/RJ or the Q400. Even the Q400 will be close to limits in Summer.
The Airport is doing the right thing to protect what we have now, no more , no less. Peter Karran is being a bit daft on this, and needs to understand a few truths, but is this unusual for our politicians?
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The Runway extension is for enlarged safety zones, not declared distances. I'll have more runoff if I need to stop, but I won't get more weight available for takeoff, or landing. It won't give me more fuel to go further, or more weight to use. The same for a 738 or A319.
So your telling us that the pontoon being built in to the sea is not weight bearing?
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The advantage of using an Airbus out of London City is that there is a very short check-in. When the aircraft lands in Shannon for refuelling the passengers will be able to clear US immigration and customs while they wait. The aircraft can then land at any suitable airfield in the US since it has already been cleared. Tot up the savings and the LCY option may be much quicker than a direct flight from LHR or LGW.
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Most people with any sense would realise that Easyjet/Ryanair would be bad for the IOM but remember the department that controls Ronaldsway has also shut a main arterial road into Douglas for 5 weeks causing chaos and was lambasted over its actions regarding the accident at the TT last year, so you would not bet against it. The IOM cannot suit their business model though or they would have been here years ago.
Better to get BMI to run a twice daily to LHR imo.
Anyone know how Manx2 are getting on with getting slots at LHR
?, seems to have all gone quiet
Better to get BMI to run a twice daily to LHR imo.
Anyone know how Manx2 are getting on with getting slots at LHR
?, seems to have all gone quiet
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Don't think we will be seeing Manx2 at LHR very soon. If the major US airlines are not able to get slots for 300 seat a/c, can't really see BAA giving M2 slots for three daily 19 seater a/c! The fares would be huge!
Maybe when LHR gets its third runway...
Maybe when LHR gets its third runway...