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Let me think...
The IOM is as usual a couple of years late with recession. Thus numbers are depressed now compared to the downturn in th UK over the last couple of years.
We've had the Ash cloud, a couple of periods of very unseasonal poor weather and a new larger ferry with aggresive marketing to compete.
The falling of TT and Easter was different to last year and didn't help as it split figures between months too.
So overall, to be near enough to last year is not too bad. easyJet buggering about has also skewed figures on routes, they are not playing the same game as everyone else so it confuses things still further.
As to excessive waste at the airport, there are not too many culprits....just the usual suspects.
The IOM is as usual a couple of years late with recession. Thus numbers are depressed now compared to the downturn in th UK over the last couple of years.
We've had the Ash cloud, a couple of periods of very unseasonal poor weather and a new larger ferry with aggresive marketing to compete.
The falling of TT and Easter was different to last year and didn't help as it split figures between months too.
So overall, to be near enough to last year is not too bad. easyJet buggering about has also skewed figures on routes, they are not playing the same game as everyone else so it confuses things still further.
As to excessive waste at the airport, there are not too many culprits....just the usual suspects.
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Blimey airportman. rattled your cage or hit a nerve to get your first contribution for 4 years. Looks as if you work down at Ronaldsway docks and if you can't see the overpaid wasters down there you need to open your eyes. And theyre all being getting paychecks from Arkwright via mine and I suppose your taxes. Theyre all on the good ol manx gravy train.
Dash mate - youre too nice trying to defend the indefensible.
Dash mate - youre too nice trying to defend the indefensible.
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Just reading some of the comments on here about the decline in passenger numbers.
The explosion in the amount of loCo airlines flying cheaply to all over Spain and Portugal and beyond makes going to sunny climates the preffered choice. Peope who traditionally would have went to say Jersey, Blackpool or IOM now opt for the sunshine and futher afield for a range of reasons.
Then IOM has the business market and it like most other places is being curtailed by the amount of video calling etc. All companies have a challenge to cut costs and so are using airlines less.
IOM will need to keep focus on cost as fastest route to healing losses as I dont forsee any big uptake in the near future.
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The explosion in the amount of loCo airlines flying cheaply to all over Spain and Portugal and beyond makes going to sunny climates the preffered choice. Peope who traditionally would have went to say Jersey, Blackpool or IOM now opt for the sunshine and futher afield for a range of reasons.
Then IOM has the business market and it like most other places is being curtailed by the amount of video calling etc. All companies have a challenge to cut costs and so are using airlines less.
IOM will need to keep focus on cost as fastest route to healing losses as I dont forsee any big uptake in the near future.
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There was substantial discussion in Tynwald last week, in response to a question, about the financial performance and viability of the airport. The
full text is here, starting from item 1545:-
http://www.tynwald.org.im/papers/ear...ept130710a.pdf
Interestingly, in the course of his responses, the Minister for Infrastructure goes on record as saying the airport workforce is 'highly inflexible.'
I imagine that he doesn't make such a comment lightly, so therein lies a part of the financial problem............
He also says that management are 'wary' of passing day to day operation to a private airport operator........I bet they are, but a £5million defict needs radical solutions
full text is here, starting from item 1545:-
http://www.tynwald.org.im/papers/ear...ept130710a.pdf
Interestingly, in the course of his responses, the Minister for Infrastructure goes on record as saying the airport workforce is 'highly inflexible.'
I imagine that he doesn't make such a comment lightly, so therein lies a part of the financial problem............
He also says that management are 'wary' of passing day to day operation to a private airport operator........I bet they are, but a £5million defict needs radical solutions
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Spotter fella, everyone with more than my couple of braincells knows that but the chinless wonders up the road in Douglas haven't got the cajones cos they know ms moffat would have a fit and the Big Girl wont take on the T&G either. Like I've said loads of times, its like the docks in the 50s and 60s father to son and mate to mate. I even knew a time when there was a waiting list to be a loader. Time for a change.
anything to add airportman?
anything to add airportman?
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lfc84 well look at it this way - all the overworked and stressed air traffic people, our friends the loaders, the firemen, the electrical guys who look after the airfield and the ones that do the wiggly amp things to the air traffic stuff and the weather men, the odd- job men around the airport, the miserable lot up in the offices who do the admin, the airport polizei, the cleaners and of the course 'the management' which seems to have multiplied over the last few years. Its a government facility and they up Douglas just love it to bits. Do the math on the number of those on the government wagebill - I reckon around 100 but I'm sure someone could come up with the exact number.
Or look at in reverse which is probably easier for the likes of me, the only non governemnt people there are the good folks at Flight support, cafeteria staff and the fuellers (now there's a job I wouldn't mind)
airportman fella - I wish. Must be the only 'job for life' left in the western hemisphere - for now.
Or look at in reverse which is probably easier for the likes of me, the only non governemnt people there are the good folks at Flight support, cafeteria staff and the fuellers (now there's a job I wouldn't mind)
airportman fella - I wish. Must be the only 'job for life' left in the western hemisphere - for now.
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147.4 wte, per 2010/11 Budget
http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/treasury/...nkbook2010.pdf
Average cost per head £46407 - this will include 'on costs', not just salary and wages.
http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/treasury/...nkbook2010.pdf
Average cost per head £46407 - this will include 'on costs', not just salary and wages.
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How about removing the free landing fees applied to Easyjet?
There not exactly transporting huge amount of passengers and they never will
Also stop subsidising Aer Aranns LCY route. IOM GOV currently paying for the seat difference between the ATR 42, ATR 72.
Why should the IOM residents pay for these outrageous deals?
Also the Airport director should be removed with immediate affect. She has done nothing but spend at Ronaldsway with no return to show
There not exactly transporting huge amount of passengers and they never will
Also stop subsidising Aer Aranns LCY route. IOM GOV currently paying for the seat difference between the ATR 42, ATR 72.
Why should the IOM residents pay for these outrageous deals?
Also the Airport director should be removed with immediate affect. She has done nothing but spend at Ronaldsway with no return to show
Well 4 of us are going MAN-IOM-MAN in Sept & its costing just a few quid shy of £400 with Flybe. For that price we could have gone to Spain. So, Ronaldsway you better be worth it !! Oh & if you were thinking of adding another £24 for a pax charge then it would definitely be a no no.
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As a government employee in one of the professions slighted on this thread I would like to point out that many years training have led to holding my job here at Ronaldsway.
The responsibility for the safety of passengers I hold does, I believe, entitle me to the reward I am paid for the task, and I believe should also entitle me to some respect from those who use the service here.
It is a shame that some individuals choose to tar everyone with the same brush when referring to the staff, many of whom are very professional and not unaware of thecommercial pressures of running a successful organisation.
I don't doubt that savings could be made in some areas, but to provide the quality of service expected by the residents there is absolutely no way the airport could make a profit without considerably higher landing fees (and ergo fares) or reduced operations. Unfortunately economies of scale prevent the airport from making a killing from retail as at other airports.
The responsibility for the safety of passengers I hold does, I believe, entitle me to the reward I am paid for the task, and I believe should also entitle me to some respect from those who use the service here.
It is a shame that some individuals choose to tar everyone with the same brush when referring to the staff, many of whom are very professional and not unaware of thecommercial pressures of running a successful organisation.
I don't doubt that savings could be made in some areas, but to provide the quality of service expected by the residents there is absolutely no way the airport could make a profit without considerably higher landing fees (and ergo fares) or reduced operations. Unfortunately economies of scale prevent the airport from making a killing from retail as at other airports.
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Fragul-I think most of us know there are some well qualified, highly skilled, professional staff at Ronaldsway who contribute to the safe and effective operation of the airport, and who could, no doubt, hold down similar posts at any similar airport. Anyone who fits that profile deserves to be paid the going rate for the job and accorded appropriate respect.
However, it is well known that there are some, shall we call them, blue collar employee groups who, through a long history of militancy and bullying union tactics have got themselves into a situation where they are earning far more than their skills and attitudes would be worth in the open market.
This problem is not unique to the airport, but is a characteristic of the costly socialist paradise the CM refuses to even acknowledge, let alone address. This has to be tackled as part of the response to the fiscal crisis confronting the Island, and any IOM tax payers are quite entitled to have a swipe at it.
However, it is well known that there are some, shall we call them, blue collar employee groups who, through a long history of militancy and bullying union tactics have got themselves into a situation where they are earning far more than their skills and attitudes would be worth in the open market.
This problem is not unique to the airport, but is a characteristic of the costly socialist paradise the CM refuses to even acknowledge, let alone address. This has to be tackled as part of the response to the fiscal crisis confronting the Island, and any IOM tax payers are quite entitled to have a swipe at it.
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I think you mean 175?
Mike Rutter has already said it will be coming for LGW, but not when.
Can't see them putting it on LPL though. Aircraft type won't make the slightest difference there, but frequency and convenience will keep BE as the dominant force until EZY get bored.
Mike Rutter has already said it will be coming for LGW, but not when.
Can't see them putting it on LPL though. Aircraft type won't make the slightest difference there, but frequency and convenience will keep BE as the dominant force until EZY get bored.
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The new tower will be coming online on the 4th August. Hopefully everyone appreciates the need for delay but the guys & gals will be very glad to take charge of the better facilities. 
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Once again last month Ann Reynoldsway predicted "Signs of Improvment after struggling first half of 2010 - Airport Press Release".
its' not happening where I see it. Seems to me July pax was DOWN not UP even with a new EzyJet service to LPL. BE LPL & MAN took big hits.
Wonder what this months b***ocks press release will say. Not quite up but please dont say its down. Its gonna be a tough winter at Reynoldsway.
its' not happening where I see it. Seems to me July pax was DOWN not UP even with a new EzyJet service to LPL. BE LPL & MAN took big hits.
Wonder what this months b***ocks press release will say. Not quite up but please dont say its down. Its gonna be a tough winter at Reynoldsway.