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Ah, so they are - and activated by NOTAM. Thanks for that. I guess they'll find their way into the AIP in due course.
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All the revisions - Declared Distances/New instrument approach charts/revised taxiway arrangements - are detailed within the IAIP Sup 021/2011
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I suppose the BAA have to justify spending £10m,when the main complainer (Ryanair with the lower powered 738) have left.
Perhaps an upgrade of the airfield to allow 16 / 34 ILS Cat II ops would be better value for money.
Bet the Aberdeen Chamber of Commerce have nae clue fit I'm spikin aboot.Rowies anyone aye aye,faz me bag.
Perhaps an upgrade of the airfield to allow 16 / 34 ILS Cat II ops would be better value for money.
Bet the Aberdeen Chamber of Commerce have nae clue fit I'm spikin aboot.Rowies anyone aye aye,faz me bag.
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As a employee of one of the handling agents, I can kinda understand the cost, but having driven past the new extension and mike 9 it looks embarrassing, as previously posted "like a driveway" the pilots have said there has been no difference in there figures YET! Reclaim was and still is more important! As soon as a international flight arrives and a domestic flight and us bag guys arrive at reclaim and you end up you can only get one flight round a belt, so it becomes a fight for whos bags on first, plus the international belt breaks down if you put too many bags on it! Also the BAA wants us to get bags to the belt within 15 mins, near on impossible with the problem stated above, and too many handling agents, a longer roadway since the new walkway and have you tried to offload a 6 bin BA in under 15 mins or a 235 bag Thomas cook? Ok I will put my hands up and say this doesn't happen all the time, but it's far too small!! It's the oil capital of Europe as we keep saying with all the money from the industry over the past 40 years you would think we would have walkbridges! Ground power out of the ground! Shutes in baggage hall a 4 belt reclaim with a Shute system, but deep down the problem the airport has and the true reason is when they built the current terminal etc in the 70's they under-estimated dyce's expansion over the 40 years after it, which has left the handling agents and the BAA with all problems it has now, small reclaim/not enough stands/not enough parking bays for equipment/too many handling agents in a small place/small baggage hall and finally the terminal is too small itself. Finally again don't get me wrong the BAA has made a effort to get it right with the tools they have and I do love working there, I guess I would like to see more things done to make it better now n again...
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Cpt Fish, They were double parking Dan Air 748s and BA Viscounts at the main terminal the year it opened!
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BAA ABZ already have a system in place to increase the fire cat as and when required for ad hoc movements.
Doubt there will be any change until there is a regular operation with an aircraft that requires an increase in fire category.
There is no logic in increasing costs of running the airfield on the off chance that someone will operate a larger aircraft one day in the future.
Doubt there will be any change until there is a regular operation with an aircraft that requires an increase in fire category.
There is no logic in increasing costs of running the airfield on the off chance that someone will operate a larger aircraft one day in the future.
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Work began yesterday on construction work at the airport industrial park that is named after the airport - ABZ. Claims it will create 2,000 jobs, with interest apparently already being shown in taking up space. In these austere times, I hope their estimates are correct! AND that the road system is improved to take account of the inevitable increase in traffic.
Was having a gander at the route map on the BAA Aberdeen site. It's probably been on there for some time, but I noticed some interesting potential locations that have not yet been served: in Asia - Shanghai & Bangkok(!); S America - Sao Paolo; Africa -Abidjan, Port Harcourt, Lagos, Johannesburg(!); USA - New York, Boston, Orlando, Houston. I wondered if this was some sort of wish list - certainly Houston & Dubai are - but coudn't make my mind up over whether they were merely putting these places on so that people could get their bearings when looking at the map! The fact they appear makes me think at least some of them are on the "wish list". How far away they are from reality? Who knows...I agree with CC - I doubt a 124m runway extension can be the only criteria. Some of those are clearly oil-related of course. And many of them may be too far out of reach...in reality as well as metaphorically!
Anything further about bmi Regional? Was a story recently about a name lodged at Companies House bearing the moniker Granite Airways (or Granite City Airways?) which was apparently lodged in July, so something presumably was afoot a lot further back than just this autumn.
Was having a gander at the route map on the BAA Aberdeen site. It's probably been on there for some time, but I noticed some interesting potential locations that have not yet been served: in Asia - Shanghai & Bangkok(!); S America - Sao Paolo; Africa -Abidjan, Port Harcourt, Lagos, Johannesburg(!); USA - New York, Boston, Orlando, Houston. I wondered if this was some sort of wish list - certainly Houston & Dubai are - but coudn't make my mind up over whether they were merely putting these places on so that people could get their bearings when looking at the map! The fact they appear makes me think at least some of them are on the "wish list". How far away they are from reality? Who knows...I agree with CC - I doubt a 124m runway extension can be the only criteria. Some of those are clearly oil-related of course. And many of them may be too far out of reach...in reality as well as metaphorically!
Anything further about bmi Regional? Was a story recently about a name lodged at Companies House bearing the moniker Granite Airways (or Granite City Airways?) which was apparently lodged in July, so something presumably was afoot a lot further back than just this autumn.
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Granite Aviation appears to be the holding company. Bmi regional will retain it's name in the short term at least, rumour has it that all will be said and done on the 1st Jan. The future is bright.
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Evening Express - Article - Pilot tells of stormy landing in Aberdeen
I saw them coming over the West end, it looked challenging. There was an Eastern followed in 10 mins later, did that get in too?
I saw them coming over the West end, it looked challenging. There was an Eastern followed in 10 mins later, did that get in too?
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The following are the intended departure times once KLM introduces a 6th rotation on the AMS route from S12:
0600, 0910, 1100, 1325, 1545, 1720. Outbound flights KL1440-1450.
(courtesy SCAN)
Preumably operated by a mix of E190/FK70/B737/B738 as now.
Flybe were due to send up one of their new E170s to replace the E190 based here at the moment. Has this happened, or is the E190 still in situ? The 170 has made a couple of appearances on the BHX route so far.
0600, 0910, 1100, 1325, 1545, 1720. Outbound flights KL1440-1450.
(courtesy SCAN)
Preumably operated by a mix of E190/FK70/B737/B738 as now.
Flybe were due to send up one of their new E170s to replace the E190 based here at the moment. Has this happened, or is the E190 still in situ? The 170 has made a couple of appearances on the BHX route so far.
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Aberdeen airport takes off as UK No1 - Transport - Scotsman.com
Nice Christmas present for airport management, but what does the future hold with ongoing economic gloom generally, increases in APD & the apparent imposition of green taxes confirmed by the EU?
Nice Christmas present for airport management, but what does the future hold with ongoing economic gloom generally, increases in APD & the apparent imposition of green taxes confirmed by the EU?
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BHX-ABZ
A forth daily weekday BHX-ABZ has appeared in the flybe timetable for summer.
Unusual in as much that BHX based aircraft have always operated the route but
this is an Aberdeen originating aircraft.
Departs ABZ 10.25 arrives BHX 11.55
Departs BHX 12.15 arrives ABZ 13.45.
I am not sure what this aircraft does before 10.25 and after 13.45.
BHX-ABZ has been four daily before on certain days but all BHX based
aircraft in the past.
Pete
Unusual in as much that BHX based aircraft have always operated the route but
this is an Aberdeen originating aircraft.
Departs ABZ 10.25 arrives BHX 11.55
Departs BHX 12.15 arrives ABZ 13.45.
I am not sure what this aircraft does before 10.25 and after 13.45.
BHX-ABZ has been four daily before on certain days but all BHX based
aircraft in the past.
Pete
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Flybe & BHX
Thanks for the info Pete.
Do you know what aircraft type will be operating this extra schedule? If it's ABZ-based it might mean Flybe are going to base an extra aircraft here to do other things...or it might mean that franchise partner Loganair are going to operate it if it originates out of ABZ - LOG were rumoured to be acquiring further Saab 340Bs.
Edit: Or it might be they are just going to work the existing aircraft harder; ie. ABZ-LGW-ABZ-BHX-ABZ-LGW...
At present despite much talk that Flybe were going to be big in ABZ, & granted they have a few domestics, they only have the one aircraft based here. Talk of "six new routes here, 4 new Scandi routes there" have not materialized so far. Their routes to NCL, SOU & CWL (latter with LOG) were not really at business friendly times, so didn't get the sufficient yields they were looking for, & they haven't yet tried anything European out of ABZ directly.
Do you know what aircraft type will be operating this extra schedule? If it's ABZ-based it might mean Flybe are going to base an extra aircraft here to do other things...or it might mean that franchise partner Loganair are going to operate it if it originates out of ABZ - LOG were rumoured to be acquiring further Saab 340Bs.
Edit: Or it might be they are just going to work the existing aircraft harder; ie. ABZ-LGW-ABZ-BHX-ABZ-LGW...
At present despite much talk that Flybe were going to be big in ABZ, & granted they have a few domestics, they only have the one aircraft based here. Talk of "six new routes here, 4 new Scandi routes there" have not materialized so far. Their routes to NCL, SOU & CWL (latter with LOG) were not really at business friendly times, so didn't get the sufficient yields they were looking for, & they haven't yet tried anything European out of ABZ directly.
Last edited by Richard Taylor; 28th Dec 2011 at 09:24.