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You can never quite tell with aviation these days, but maybe forward bookings in the months ahead are much better - I assume something is persuading Lufthansa to put the B735 onto some of the summer rotations, although that type I thought was due to be phased out with Lufthansa shortly.
No doubt these days a route has to work pretty damn quick, or it gets pulled. Use it or lose it has never been so apt.
Maybe what will persuade Lufthansa to persevere is the high yielding oil traffic to interline into the Lufthansa network at FRA. Now they're here, they may as well give it a bit of time to build up.
When I think about it, I don't recall seeing or hearing much local advertising of the route, other than it being announced in the press when the news broke that the route was to be launched.
No doubt these days a route has to work pretty damn quick, or it gets pulled. Use it or lose it has never been so apt.
Maybe what will persuade Lufthansa to persevere is the high yielding oil traffic to interline into the Lufthansa network at FRA. Now they're here, they may as well give it a bit of time to build up.
When I think about it, I don't recall seeing or hearing much local advertising of the route, other than it being announced in the press when the news broke that the route was to be launched.
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Had a quick look through the CAA route analysis for December...
NOV 11 ABZ-FRA - 5978 pax (33% LF)
DEC 11 ABZ-FRA - 8313 pax (47% LF)
So a fair improvement think we could be hitting 11-12k come July.
Interestingly we got 1000 more pax than EDI
NOV 11 ABZ-FRA - 5978 pax (33% LF)
DEC 11 ABZ-FRA - 8313 pax (47% LF)
So a fair improvement think we could be hitting 11-12k come July.
Interestingly we got 1000 more pax than EDI
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Had a quick look through the CAA route analysis for December...
NOV 11 ABZ-FRA - 5978 pax (33% LF)
DEC 11 ABZ-FRA - 8313 pax (47% LF)
So a fair improvement think we could be hitting 11-12k come July.
Interestingly we got 1000 more pax than EDI
NOV 11 ABZ-FRA - 5978 pax (33% LF)
DEC 11 ABZ-FRA - 8313 pax (47% LF)
So a fair improvement think we could be hitting 11-12k come July.
Interestingly we got 1000 more pax than EDI
EDI is once daily operated by a mix of A319/A320 during December with a LF of 82% so not really a fair comparison.
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Positive news regarding Lufthansa equipment upgrade. Hopefully the Frankfurt route manages to make a good go of it, and is still around in a few years time. Certainly a good competitor to AF/KL & BA.
Although London City is in the pipeline, we havent really had any major route announcement or new airline announcement as promised following the runway announcement. Are we likely to have any new routes in the near future?
I'm sure Lufthansa could make a daily Munich route work quite well, or Swiss with a flight to Geneva or Zurich, certainly in the winter.
Looking at the 2012 Summer schedule, and it appears we are going to see just the usual services nothing new at all. I thought since we saw the runway extension being completed well in advance of the season commenting we may have seen a Greek or Egypt flight being added. Anyone know if any of the tour operators are planning any new or additional routes for S12 or S13?
Would an Orlando service once weekly for June and July not work now with our additional 150m?
Although London City is in the pipeline, we havent really had any major route announcement or new airline announcement as promised following the runway announcement. Are we likely to have any new routes in the near future?
I'm sure Lufthansa could make a daily Munich route work quite well, or Swiss with a flight to Geneva or Zurich, certainly in the winter.
Looking at the 2012 Summer schedule, and it appears we are going to see just the usual services nothing new at all. I thought since we saw the runway extension being completed well in advance of the season commenting we may have seen a Greek or Egypt flight being added. Anyone know if any of the tour operators are planning any new or additional routes for S12 or S13?
Would an Orlando service once weekly for June and July not work now with our additional 150m?
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Planned Investment
(BBC)
Aberdeen Airport is to get £4.25m of improvements in the coming year, as part of a £45m spend earmarked through to 2021.
A £10m extension of the main runway was completed in October as part of £50m of investment in the previous decade.
The new spending is expected to include the start of a £5m expansion of the airport's international arrivals area.
Airport managing director Derek Provan said: "Our aim is to continue to provide high standards of service."
Is this new, or a rehash of old? Does this mean a...a...a...another carousel?? Doesn't sound like new stands or parking, but more in the terminal.
Aberdeen Airport is to get £4.25m of improvements in the coming year, as part of a £45m spend earmarked through to 2021.
A £10m extension of the main runway was completed in October as part of £50m of investment in the previous decade.
The new spending is expected to include the start of a £5m expansion of the airport's international arrivals area.
Airport managing director Derek Provan said: "Our aim is to continue to provide high standards of service."
Is this new, or a rehash of old? Does this mean a...a...a...another carousel?? Doesn't sound like new stands or parking, but more in the terminal.
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I actually tweeted at the airport a couple of months ago regarding the poor state of the arrivals hall, baggage facilities etc and they replied saying:
"We are aware of the limitations of the space we have and creating more space and adding an extra baggage belt are key priorities"
I thought they already planned to spend £50million upgrading facilities over a decade??
Also there will be a 'revised master plan' at the end of February
"We are aware of the limitations of the space we have and creating more space and adding an extra baggage belt are key priorities"
I thought they already planned to spend £50million upgrading facilities over a decade??
Also there will be a 'revised master plan' at the end of February
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Cityjet's DND schedule is next to useless if you want to do business in Dundee and back same day - and two rotations doesn't give much flexibility going the other way either. I assume the majority of passengers are going into London, not the other way round - but would have thought an effective route should do something to serve both? EDI is also only 3x daily, so what would ABZ be likely to get in all seriousness?
Re: Spain
I'm sure it has been asked before, and Flybe's promises were mentioned here back in November. I'm not going to buy into Scandinavia, that would surely happen from BHX first (oil routes seem well sewn up) - but ABZ has a pitiful selection of holiday routes. Now I know it is a much smaller city than its central belt cousins, and further away from other centres of population, but given a typical Scottish winter and a fair number of people dealing in the lucrative black stuff, is there not an ideal match for the E175's & the Costas? Not sure if they can reach the Canaries with the extra 100m runway?
Cityjet's DND schedule is next to useless if you want to do business in Dundee and back same day - and two rotations doesn't give much flexibility going the other way either. I assume the majority of passengers are going into London, not the other way round - but would have thought an effective route should do something to serve both? EDI is also only 3x daily, so what would ABZ be likely to get in all seriousness?
Re: Spain
I'm sure it has been asked before, and Flybe's promises were mentioned here back in November. I'm not going to buy into Scandinavia, that would surely happen from BHX first (oil routes seem well sewn up) - but ABZ has a pitiful selection of holiday routes. Now I know it is a much smaller city than its central belt cousins, and further away from other centres of population, but given a typical Scottish winter and a fair number of people dealing in the lucrative black stuff, is there not an ideal match for the E175's & the Costas? Not sure if they can reach the Canaries with the extra 100m runway?
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Aer Lingus Reg going daily for S12, with the Aer Arann ATR72s.
LCY:
Would envisage morning & evening services, with possibly an off-peak flight in between...or a rotation to RTM which has been much touted over recent years, but never started. However, Cityjet are only looking into the viability of an ABZ route at this stage.
Scandi:
SVG (2 operators - SAS/Wideroe, & Eastern) & BGO (Wideroe - do Eastern still fly it via SVG?). Used to be services to HAU, AES, KRS, KSU & OSL. Whether any of these are viable today? Who knows. There was supposed to be demand for OSL, but Eastern pulled it a couple of years ago, & nobody has restarted it.
Spain:
Air Scotland came & went. Flyglobespan came & went. Monarch came for AGP, then went (wish they'd return!) ABZ & Ryanair talked...& are now not talking. I think many of the UK/UK operating airlines consider the ABZ catchment area too far away & too small to make it worthwhile basing anything long term for these flights...maybe the runway extension will help, but the catchment area is the same, regardless of runway length. The area remains one of the few that continues to grow, so we'll see if that tempts someone to start Spanish schedules again. Likely PMI (always the No.1 destination), AGP, TFS in my view, if we get anything. E175 from ABZ to the Costas? Too small, I think. E190 maybe. GSM's B737-7 with the winglets seemed an excellent aircraft for ABZ - Costa Dels.
Aer Lingus Reg going daily for S12, with the Aer Arann ATR72s.
LCY:
Would envisage morning & evening services, with possibly an off-peak flight in between...or a rotation to RTM which has been much touted over recent years, but never started. However, Cityjet are only looking into the viability of an ABZ route at this stage.
Scandi:
SVG (2 operators - SAS/Wideroe, & Eastern) & BGO (Wideroe - do Eastern still fly it via SVG?). Used to be services to HAU, AES, KRS, KSU & OSL. Whether any of these are viable today? Who knows. There was supposed to be demand for OSL, but Eastern pulled it a couple of years ago, & nobody has restarted it.
Spain:
Air Scotland came & went. Flyglobespan came & went. Monarch came for AGP, then went (wish they'd return!) ABZ & Ryanair talked...& are now not talking. I think many of the UK/UK operating airlines consider the ABZ catchment area too far away & too small to make it worthwhile basing anything long term for these flights...maybe the runway extension will help, but the catchment area is the same, regardless of runway length. The area remains one of the few that continues to grow, so we'll see if that tempts someone to start Spanish schedules again. Likely PMI (always the No.1 destination), AGP, TFS in my view, if we get anything. E175 from ABZ to the Costas? Too small, I think. E190 maybe. GSM's B737-7 with the winglets seemed an excellent aircraft for ABZ - Costa Dels.
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E175 from ABZ to the Costas? Too small, I think. E190 maybe. GSM's B737-7 with the winglets seemed an excellent aircraft for ABZ - Costa Dels.
I've never seen direct operational cost comparisons for an E190 v, say, 733, but afaik, the E-jets are pretty good on the fuel, and iirc just 2 cabin crew instead of 4? Obviously they can't get away with just one pilot, but if overall seat costs are a bit higher, the yields should make up for that.
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All gone ominously quiet, & it has now caught the attention of the BBC Scotland Economic/Business Editor (whether he reads PPRUNE, who knows).
In these straightened times, the issue of funding the purchase is & was always going to pose a problem. Which banks lend to businesses these days, especially civil aviation?
All the talk was that bmiR was the part of the Group making a profit, & that it would be Baby that would struggle for a buyer. Right now, looks like it's the other way around!
How ironic that ABZ could be in danger of losing it's locally-based airline at a time where it is experiencing the highest growth (up to the end of last year) in the UK.
............it's the economy, old boy..............
In these straightened times, the issue of funding the purchase is & was always going to pose a problem. Which banks lend to businesses these days, especially civil aviation?
All the talk was that bmiR was the part of the Group making a profit, & that it would be Baby that would struggle for a buyer. Right now, looks like it's the other way around!
How ironic that ABZ could be in danger of losing it's locally-based airline at a time where it is experiencing the highest growth (up to the end of last year) in the UK.
............it's the economy, old boy..............
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Seems to be more positive news re bmi Regional in the last 24hrs. Fingers crossed!
Meanwhile, happened across this (was a wee bit longer, but I've edited it somewhat):
"Aberdeen City and Shire target Norway with visitScotland
February 7, 2012
With support investment from Aberdeen City and Aberdeenshire Councils, and airline partner Wideroe, VisitScotland delivered a consumer marketing campaign to raise the profile of Aberdeen City and Shire in the cities of Bergen and Stavanger in Norway, which enjoy direct access to Aberdeen.
The campaign ran from 17 October – 25 November 2011 and focused on encouraging more visitors to take short breaks across the region both within and out of the shoulder season months.
The campaign has been a great success and the results are in:
•Wideroe reported 15% uplift in bookings on their Stavanger to Aberdeen route and 6% on their Bergen to Aberdeen route during the campaign period compared to the same period in 2010 "
Promotion of the region is exactly the sort of thing required to entice more visitors - Norway being an obvious market to target. Glad to see it was worthwhile for all parties.
Meanwhile, happened across this (was a wee bit longer, but I've edited it somewhat):
"Aberdeen City and Shire target Norway with visitScotland
February 7, 2012
With support investment from Aberdeen City and Aberdeenshire Councils, and airline partner Wideroe, VisitScotland delivered a consumer marketing campaign to raise the profile of Aberdeen City and Shire in the cities of Bergen and Stavanger in Norway, which enjoy direct access to Aberdeen.
The campaign ran from 17 October – 25 November 2011 and focused on encouraging more visitors to take short breaks across the region both within and out of the shoulder season months.
The campaign has been a great success and the results are in:
•Wideroe reported 15% uplift in bookings on their Stavanger to Aberdeen route and 6% on their Bergen to Aberdeen route during the campaign period compared to the same period in 2010 "
Promotion of the region is exactly the sort of thing required to entice more visitors - Norway being an obvious market to target. Glad to see it was worthwhile for all parties.
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Now showing 5 flights from Apr during weekdays, with Flybe basing an extra DH8D here soon. These are the times loaded into the Flybe website:
Dept ABZ: 0645, 0850, 1555, 1755, 1935
Arr ABZ: 0825, 1000, 1530, 1910, 2110(n/s)
Presume the gap between the 1000 arrival & 1555 departure is when it operates ABZ-BHX-ABZ, leaving ABZ 1025 as I recall.
There was one rumour of a 2nd DH8D coming to ABZ to be based, but not heard any more about that so don't know if confirmed or just gossip.
But no doubt putting the squeeze on bmiR so will be interesting to see if they react - I think bmiR had 6 rotations to MAN a couple of years back, but I don't think it's that now.
Dept ABZ: 0645, 0850, 1555, 1755, 1935
Arr ABZ: 0825, 1000, 1530, 1910, 2110(n/s)
Presume the gap between the 1000 arrival & 1555 departure is when it operates ABZ-BHX-ABZ, leaving ABZ 1025 as I recall.
There was one rumour of a 2nd DH8D coming to ABZ to be based, but not heard any more about that so don't know if confirmed or just gossip.
But no doubt putting the squeeze on bmiR so will be interesting to see if they react - I think bmiR had 6 rotations to MAN a couple of years back, but I don't think it's that now.
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If bmi regional were to go
I don't think losing bmi regional would cause a loss or noticeable drop in pax numbers as they share:
Heathrow with BA and they won't get to keep that route anyway.
Manchester with BE would lead to increases in capacity on that route.
The BD flight to Norwich is already being operated by T3.
Esbjerg and Groningen could be picked up by Eastern. These are low pax, high yield destinations anyway. 10 pax on a flight.
Anyway judging by the news it looks like the BMR sale is going to move at snails pace.
Heathrow with BA and they won't get to keep that route anyway.
Manchester with BE would lead to increases in capacity on that route.
The BD flight to Norwich is already being operated by T3.
Esbjerg and Groningen could be picked up by Eastern. These are low pax, high yield destinations anyway. 10 pax on a flight.
Anyway judging by the news it looks like the BMR sale is going to move at snails pace.
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Makes you wonder what routes they would fly from ABZ. Would they drop the domestics (except a route to London) & concentrate on Europe? But they have tried AMS, BRU & the like to no avail...but that was a few years ago now. GRQ & EBJ seem to work for them based on yield, so something similar perhaps. They tried KRS, but not for long - but that sort of route.
Hopefully we hear more news from airlines & more routes soon...whatever the measure & the factors behind it, a 13.9% increase in passengers for Jan 2012 v Jan 2011 is very impressive.
Maybe this latest (another!) survey will give airport management more guidance...more leisure, or more business? Or more Stavanger!!!
Hopefully we hear more news from airlines & more routes soon...whatever the measure & the factors behind it, a 13.9% increase in passengers for Jan 2012 v Jan 2011 is very impressive.
Maybe this latest (another!) survey will give airport management more guidance...more leisure, or more business? Or more Stavanger!!!
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ABZ needs to keep the new routes coming in because if no new routes are added the come July - October pax numbers increases will stall.
It's a pity BMR don't have E170's because they could then connect to places like ZRH and maybe Poland. The E145 just doesn't have the legs for 1000 mile runs (it does but it would be a form of torture).
BTW I'm amazed that there is no route to Alicante. ABZ could surely support a 1-2X weekly op. How did the GSM route do?
It's a pity BMR don't have E170's because they could then connect to places like ZRH and maybe Poland. The E145 just doesn't have the legs for 1000 mile runs (it does but it would be a form of torture).
BTW I'm amazed that there is no route to Alicante. ABZ could surely support a 1-2X weekly op. How did the GSM route do?
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Being a leisure traveller to Germany I think the Lufthansa route has been a great thing for ABZ and I really hope it gets used.
We got a great price for flights to AUH via FRA which knocked spots of BA, KLM or AF prices.
Also when you book flights with Lufthansa you can take advantage of the fly/rail offer and can travel anywhere on the German rail network for 25 euros in second class or 45 euros for first class. We all know how efficient the Deutsche Bahn service is.
So, basically you can fly to FRA then could get the train to say Hamburg for 25 euros. Absolutely brilliant and the more people know about it, the more it will be used.
Haven't used it myself yet for Germany but have tickets booked for September with the train from FRA to the Black Forest.
One thing I have noticed a couple of times, if anyone uses Skyscanner, it does not seem to bring up the LH connections via FRA so anyone pricing the likes of Dubai, Bangkok etc LH are not coming up in the search results. I have advised Skyscanner a couple of times and they say they are looking into it!
We got a great price for flights to AUH via FRA which knocked spots of BA, KLM or AF prices.
Also when you book flights with Lufthansa you can take advantage of the fly/rail offer and can travel anywhere on the German rail network for 25 euros in second class or 45 euros for first class. We all know how efficient the Deutsche Bahn service is.
So, basically you can fly to FRA then could get the train to say Hamburg for 25 euros. Absolutely brilliant and the more people know about it, the more it will be used.
Haven't used it myself yet for Germany but have tickets booked for September with the train from FRA to the Black Forest.
One thing I have noticed a couple of times, if anyone uses Skyscanner, it does not seem to bring up the LH connections via FRA so anyone pricing the likes of Dubai, Bangkok etc LH are not coming up in the search results. I have advised Skyscanner a couple of times and they say they are looking into it!
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Lufthansa declares record breaking year for UK & Ireland
2011 has been declared a record breaking year for Lufthansa with the highest number of passengers carried to and from the UK & Ireland in the airline’s history.
The 2011 figure of 4,151,363 shows an increase of almost 12% on the figures for 2010. The biggest increase was Scotland where the new service between Aberdeen and Frankfurt helped increase passenger numbers by over 25%. There were other significant increases in passenger figures for Dublin (+19.49%) and Birmingham (+18.65%).
Announcing the record year, Christian Schindler, Lufthansa’s General Manager UK & Ireland, said:
“We have reaffirmed our commitment to the UK & Ireland by starting the new service from Aberdeen to Frankfurt and announcing new services to Berlin from both Birmingham and Manchester as part of a major investment at the new Berlin-Brandenburg “Willy Brandt” Airport which is due to open in June 2012.As well as offering passengers quick and easy access to many of the main German cities we continue to ensure that our flights to and from the UK & Ireland offer the shortest possible onward connection times to our worldwide network through our main hubs of Frankfurt and Munich as well as our developing mini-hub at Dusseldorf.”
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Nice to see the ABZ route making a good contribution.
2011 has been declared a record breaking year for Lufthansa with the highest number of passengers carried to and from the UK & Ireland in the airline’s history.
The 2011 figure of 4,151,363 shows an increase of almost 12% on the figures for 2010. The biggest increase was Scotland where the new service between Aberdeen and Frankfurt helped increase passenger numbers by over 25%. There were other significant increases in passenger figures for Dublin (+19.49%) and Birmingham (+18.65%).
Announcing the record year, Christian Schindler, Lufthansa’s General Manager UK & Ireland, said:
“We have reaffirmed our commitment to the UK & Ireland by starting the new service from Aberdeen to Frankfurt and announcing new services to Berlin from both Birmingham and Manchester as part of a major investment at the new Berlin-Brandenburg “Willy Brandt” Airport which is due to open in June 2012.As well as offering passengers quick and easy access to many of the main German cities we continue to ensure that our flights to and from the UK & Ireland offer the shortest possible onward connection times to our worldwide network through our main hubs of Frankfurt and Munich as well as our developing mini-hub at Dusseldorf.”
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Nice to see the ABZ route making a good contribution.
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Good news indeed, sounds like Lufthansa sound fairly happy. Just waiting for the CAA statistics for last month.
On the topic of Lufthansa, mainline will be operating the last and first flight of the day for the summer season with the E95 set to become a more regular visitor.
On the topic of Lufthansa, mainline will be operating the last and first flight of the day for the summer season with the E95 set to become a more regular visitor.
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Interesting to see SRB & the Virgin Group launching a complaint against the IAG takeover of bmi. Not unexpected, of course, but I would have thought they have left it too late?
Why didn't they come in earlier & make an offer for bmi if they were that worried at the loss of competition between LHR & Scotland?
The comments I saw the other day indicated that Virgin would fly domestics between LHR & Scotland to feed into their long-haul network. In principal all well & good, but if that didn't work for bmi, not sure it would be any better for a Virgin 320?
Anyway, there is supposed to be an 'exclusive' interview with Sir Richard in the local press tomorrow. If nothing else, will be interesting to see what he has got to say.
I would have thought that Virgin would do - eventually - what IAG intend to do with bmi's LHR slots...namely, have BA fly to new long-haul destinations, & beef up existing growing long-haul markets.
Don't get me wrong, competition is always good & I do think, like others, that fares will jump as soon as BA has the monpoly on the LHR route again. At some point soon, bmi's LHR offering from ABZ will be dropped. But Virgin are far too late in their objections.
Why didn't they come in earlier & make an offer for bmi if they were that worried at the loss of competition between LHR & Scotland?
The comments I saw the other day indicated that Virgin would fly domestics between LHR & Scotland to feed into their long-haul network. In principal all well & good, but if that didn't work for bmi, not sure it would be any better for a Virgin 320?
Anyway, there is supposed to be an 'exclusive' interview with Sir Richard in the local press tomorrow. If nothing else, will be interesting to see what he has got to say.
I would have thought that Virgin would do - eventually - what IAG intend to do with bmi's LHR slots...namely, have BA fly to new long-haul destinations, & beef up existing growing long-haul markets.
Don't get me wrong, competition is always good & I do think, like others, that fares will jump as soon as BA has the monpoly on the LHR route again. At some point soon, bmi's LHR offering from ABZ will be dropped. But Virgin are far too late in their objections.
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Just trying to work out the S12 schedule from BE and see that ABZ - LBA, and ABZ-EXT cut from end of March with temporary additional flights between MAN - EXT so that people can connect.
(peak summer, based on Mon-Fri ops thus excl Sat JER service)
ABZ - BHX
4 x daily
ABZ-BHD
1 x daily
ABZ - LGW (ABZ E175)
3 x daily
ABZ - MAN (ABZ Q400)
5 x daily
Having looked at previous posts (maybe Richard can help here) ABZ was due to get an additional Q400. I thought they already had a based Q400 so I must be wrong, is it just the jet based at the moment?? I was of the understanding there would eventually be the jet and 2 Q400s which would open up additional routes but where to I have no idea.
(peak summer, based on Mon-Fri ops thus excl Sat JER service)
ABZ - BHX
4 x daily
ABZ-BHD
1 x daily
ABZ - LGW (ABZ E175)
3 x daily
ABZ - MAN (ABZ Q400)
5 x daily
Having looked at previous posts (maybe Richard can help here) ABZ was due to get an additional Q400. I thought they already had a based Q400 so I must be wrong, is it just the jet based at the moment?? I was of the understanding there would eventually be the jet and 2 Q400s which would open up additional routes but where to I have no idea.