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ABZ-DUB-JFK is back for winter 2012 and its daily (6 weekly last year).
Arrive DUB from JFK at 05.25 or 08.25
DUB-ABZ 10.30-12.05
ABZ=DUB 12.30-14.00
Depart DUB for JFK at 15.45
Arrive DUB from JFK at 05.25 or 08.25
DUB-ABZ 10.30-12.05
ABZ=DUB 12.30-14.00
Depart DUB for JFK at 15.45
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The 747 did a touch and go.Also had a Caledonian DC10,a C5A Galaxy and a few B52s training or practice diversions,as well as a C17 land.
Might want to include a VC10 as well,but it isn't really a heavy.
The 747 did a touch and go.Also had a Caledonian DC10,a C5A Galaxy and a few B52s training or practice diversions,as well as a C17 land.
Might want to include a VC10 as well,but it isn't really a heavy.
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Is this the Lufthansa website because that just shows E190s for all rotations in W12.
A319s are showing on early morning and evening rotations from start of August-October.
On some days all rotations are showing as being operated by mainline!
Another interesting thing is that they won't be operating any flights from 25/12-1/1. I guess demand tanked last year.
A319s are showing on early morning and evening rotations from start of August-October.
On some days all rotations are showing as being operated by mainline!
Another interesting thing is that they won't be operating any flights from 25/12-1/1. I guess demand tanked last year.
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CAA Provisional Stats - June 2012
Heathrow / 56547 / -2.0%
Gatwick / 21457 / +25.1%
Manchester / 15424 / +20.1%
Luton / 10987 / -17.4%
Birmingham / 7785 / 0.0%
Amsterdam / 24482 / +0.8%
Frankfurt / 13463 / n/a
Stavanger / 13208 / -1.3%
Paris / 9347 / -9.9%
Copenhagen / 5254 / 25.8%
Bergen / 4149 / -20.8%
Dublin / 3235 / -41.7%
Not as bad as I thought they would be and some encouraging numbers especially on the Frankfurt route.
I wonder if DUB will go twice daily next year once they start receiving their shiny new ATR 72s in January. (80% LF Average)
Heathrow / 56547 / -2.0%
Gatwick / 21457 / +25.1%
Manchester / 15424 / +20.1%
Luton / 10987 / -17.4%
Birmingham / 7785 / 0.0%
Amsterdam / 24482 / +0.8%
Frankfurt / 13463 / n/a
Stavanger / 13208 / -1.3%
Paris / 9347 / -9.9%
Copenhagen / 5254 / 25.8%
Bergen / 4149 / -20.8%
Dublin / 3235 / -41.7%
Not as bad as I thought they would be and some encouraging numbers especially on the Frankfurt route.
I wonder if DUB will go twice daily next year once they start receiving their shiny new ATR 72s in January. (80% LF Average)
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This is from Travelmole:
Thomson and First Choice boost regional flights
Thomson and First Choice are boosting flights from regional airports in response to customer feedback.
The new routes for summer 2013 are part of a strategy to ensure holidaymakers can fly from their local airport, claims the operator.
Norwich airport is getting three new routes to Dalaman in Turkey, Enfidha in Tunisia and Tenerife as well as another weekly flight to Palma and increased capacity to Corfu.
The additional flights will mean customers will be able to choose varying destinations and not just the traditional seven and 14 night breaks.
Stansted is getting a new charter flight to Agadir in Morocco and flights throughout the summer from Stansted to Gran Canaria.
The operator is going to announce further new routes from Aberdeen on Thursday.
Paul Cooper, airport negotiations manager for Thomson and First Choice, said: "Modernising our operations across the UK is a key part of our overall strategy and this move is definitely a step in the right direction towards creating an enhanced holiday experience for our customers."
Andrew Bell, Norwich airport's chief executive, said: "An easy, hassle free start to a holiday cannot be under estimated.
"With short journey times to the airport compared to London airports, on-site secure car parking next to the terminal, a friendly welcome when you arrive, efficient check-in and security procedures and no endless corridors to navigate with your bags, Norwich International Airport puts some of the pleasure back into flying."
Thomson and First Choice boost regional flights
Thomson and First Choice are boosting flights from regional airports in response to customer feedback.
The new routes for summer 2013 are part of a strategy to ensure holidaymakers can fly from their local airport, claims the operator.
Norwich airport is getting three new routes to Dalaman in Turkey, Enfidha in Tunisia and Tenerife as well as another weekly flight to Palma and increased capacity to Corfu.
The additional flights will mean customers will be able to choose varying destinations and not just the traditional seven and 14 night breaks.
Stansted is getting a new charter flight to Agadir in Morocco and flights throughout the summer from Stansted to Gran Canaria.
The operator is going to announce further new routes from Aberdeen on Thursday.
Paul Cooper, airport negotiations manager for Thomson and First Choice, said: "Modernising our operations across the UK is a key part of our overall strategy and this move is definitely a step in the right direction towards creating an enhanced holiday experience for our customers."
Andrew Bell, Norwich airport's chief executive, said: "An easy, hassle free start to a holiday cannot be under estimated.
"With short journey times to the airport compared to London airports, on-site secure car parking next to the terminal, a friendly welcome when you arrive, efficient check-in and security procedures and no endless corridors to navigate with your bags, Norwich International Airport puts some of the pleasure back into flying."
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They're not even new! I have no words...
Thomson and First Choice are pleased to announce that in Summer 2013 they will be doubling capacity at Aberdeen Airport through the introduction of a brand new route to Tenerife and an additional weekly flight to Palma, Majorca.
This move is part of the UK’s largest tour operator’s strategy to ensure customers across the UK can fly from their local airport and stay at the best hotels in some of the most exciting destinations.
Not only will customers from the North-east of Scotland now be able to fly to some new and exciting destinations, they will also have the opportunity to choose varying durations - not just the standard seven and 14 night stays. The changes also mean that Thomson and First Choice customers will now be able to set sail on the Thomson Dream cruise ship from Palma, Majorca.
Customers flying from Aberdeen will also have access to some of Thomson and First Choice’s most highly scoring flagship hotels including; the five star Sensatori Tenerife which gives customers a luxury holiday experience, featuring world class spas and gourmet dining; and the Thomson Family Resort, Playa Mar Puerto Pollenso in Majorca which has been designed for families with younger children, and ensures that every minute detail is taken care of to give parents a care-free, relaxing holiday.
Paul Cooper, Airport Negotiations Manager for Thomson and First Choice, said of the move:
“Bringing this additional capacity to the North-east of Scotland demonstrates our commitment to Aberdeen and Thomson and First Choice customers living in the region. We know that the demand is there because we have been listening to what our customers are telling us.
“Modernising our operations across the UK is a key part of our overall strategy and this move is definitely a step in the right direction towards creating an enhanced holiday experience for our customers.”
Derek Provan is the MD of Aberdeen Airport. He welcomed the announcement. “Improving the leisure offering for passengers from Aberdeen Airport is an important part of our strategy, and we are all delighted by this announcement from Thomson and First Choice. It comes as a result of a lot of on-going relationships and negotiations with our partners, and we are sure that our passengers will welcome the news.”
Aberdeen Airport: Welcome to Aberdeen Airport | Parking -aberdeen
Thomson and First Choice are pleased to announce that in Summer 2013 they will be doubling capacity at Aberdeen Airport through the introduction of a brand new route to Tenerife and an additional weekly flight to Palma, Majorca.
This move is part of the UK’s largest tour operator’s strategy to ensure customers across the UK can fly from their local airport and stay at the best hotels in some of the most exciting destinations.
Not only will customers from the North-east of Scotland now be able to fly to some new and exciting destinations, they will also have the opportunity to choose varying durations - not just the standard seven and 14 night stays. The changes also mean that Thomson and First Choice customers will now be able to set sail on the Thomson Dream cruise ship from Palma, Majorca.
Customers flying from Aberdeen will also have access to some of Thomson and First Choice’s most highly scoring flagship hotels including; the five star Sensatori Tenerife which gives customers a luxury holiday experience, featuring world class spas and gourmet dining; and the Thomson Family Resort, Playa Mar Puerto Pollenso in Majorca which has been designed for families with younger children, and ensures that every minute detail is taken care of to give parents a care-free, relaxing holiday.
Paul Cooper, Airport Negotiations Manager for Thomson and First Choice, said of the move:
“Bringing this additional capacity to the North-east of Scotland demonstrates our commitment to Aberdeen and Thomson and First Choice customers living in the region. We know that the demand is there because we have been listening to what our customers are telling us.
“Modernising our operations across the UK is a key part of our overall strategy and this move is definitely a step in the right direction towards creating an enhanced holiday experience for our customers.”
Derek Provan is the MD of Aberdeen Airport. He welcomed the announcement. “Improving the leisure offering for passengers from Aberdeen Airport is an important part of our strategy, and we are all delighted by this announcement from Thomson and First Choice. It comes as a result of a lot of on-going relationships and negotiations with our partners, and we are sure that our passengers will welcome the news.”
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I take it this is what the big announcement was, that they were speaking about on their Twitter feed 
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What happened to the new routes which were promised for the summer season with the introduction of the new runway extension?
We haven't had any significant route announcements, with any new airlines or new destinations not already served by existing carriers, since Lufthansa introduced Frankfurt last winter.
Given the large polish population residing in Aberdeen, I am really surprised that we have yet to see a direct link to Warsaw either by Wizz, or even LOT (since Lufthansa and SAS both belong to Star Alliance also). Also, everything seems to have gone quiet on the Jet2 front. It must have been nearly 3 years since FlyGlobespan collapsed, I would have thought we would have seen another carrier try a similar operation, since theirs seem to work quite well!
I overheard two ground staff in Frankfurt, whilst I was waiting for a recent flight, say something about how busy the Aberdeen flight was and how it was really performing well (given that Skyteam has 8 or 9 rotations to Paris and Amsterdam already) and that Lufthansa were looking at possibly Munich and Berlin.
Are we likely to see any new flights for Summer 2013? We dont seem to have had a Cyprus flight for the last few seasons (Since Eurocypria & Helios ran a regular weekly service back in 2003/4), and neither have we had any direct services to Greece.
!!What happened to the new routes which were promised for the summer season with the introduction of the new runway extension?
We haven't had any significant route announcements, with any new airlines or new destinations not already served by existing carriers, since Lufthansa introduced Frankfurt last winter.
Given the large polish population residing in Aberdeen, I am really surprised that we have yet to see a direct link to Warsaw either by Wizz, or even LOT (since Lufthansa and SAS both belong to Star Alliance also). Also, everything seems to have gone quiet on the Jet2 front. It must have been nearly 3 years since FlyGlobespan collapsed, I would have thought we would have seen another carrier try a similar operation, since theirs seem to work quite well!
I overheard two ground staff in Frankfurt, whilst I was waiting for a recent flight, say something about how busy the Aberdeen flight was and how it was really performing well (given that Skyteam has 8 or 9 rotations to Paris and Amsterdam already) and that Lufthansa were looking at possibly Munich and Berlin.
Are we likely to see any new flights for Summer 2013? We dont seem to have had a Cyprus flight for the last few seasons (Since Eurocypria & Helios ran a regular weekly service back in 2003/4), and neither have we had any direct services to Greece.
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I share your disappointment ABZFlyer and was really 
pissed off with this 'landmark' announcement. I really thought we were gong to be getting an a/c based or whatever.
Off the top of my head I could easily see the likes of Easyjet/Jet2 being able to operate 2/3 weekly ops to:
MALAGA!!!
Alicante
Faro
Barcelona
Corfu or Greek islands.
Tenerife
Dalaman
Innsbruck
Geneva
Maybe we are just seen as too far out of the way by airlines and they're happy to fill their coffers at EDI/GLA.
The airport is just as bad frankly - don't get me wrong they do a fairly good job - but when they pretend that 2 extra frequencies to already served destinations is fantastic, wonderful and all the other superlatives they may use then that is just half arsed
Anyway LH have downguaged to a CR7 for winter and LHR will be 9x daily on Tue and Fri in W12.
pissed off with this 'landmark' announcement. I really thought we were gong to be getting an a/c based or whatever.Off the top of my head I could easily see the likes of Easyjet/Jet2 being able to operate 2/3 weekly ops to:
MALAGA!!!
Alicante
Faro
Barcelona
Corfu or Greek islands.
Tenerife
Dalaman
Innsbruck
Geneva
Maybe we are just seen as too far out of the way by airlines and they're happy to fill their coffers at EDI/GLA.
The airport is just as bad frankly - don't get me wrong they do a fairly good job - but when they pretend that 2 extra frequencies to already served destinations is fantastic, wonderful and all the other superlatives they may use then that is just half arsed
Anyway LH have downguaged to a CR7 for winter and LHR will be 9x daily on Tue and Fri in W12.
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Guess you should never second guess airlines! I understood Lufthansa were using 319s on some rotations in winter, instead they are using CR7s. Perhaps the early indications are that winter bookings are not as strong. However if much of the traffic is business - & specifically oil - I would not have expected any significant fall in users, as these guys are usually regular travellers regardless of time of year as their companies send them worldwide, or they as self-employed consultants etc do likewise.
I agree with those who were disappointed with yesterday's announcement, although it's better than cutbacks of course.
Nevertheless, whilst I accept we will never have the depth & breadth of services of other more populated regions, I do think our strong economy & growth figures should count for something. However as said, many airlines probably think we are too far away to serve, let alone base something for summer or year round. I guess cost of flying to ABZ eg. fuel has a bearing.
In previous years I never got the impression the BAA were working too hard to attract business to ABZ, sitting back & relying on the oil industry. Much revenue generated at ABZ was used elsewhere. I think the BAA in the last couple of years have been more committed I think. Whether that sees more airlines/routes? Only time will tell. I have no doubt they continue to talk, but they have to get over the perception that Aberdeen/Grampian is remote & difficult to get to. Yet airlines & people fly all over the world, so you would think nowhere is as remote & 'out of the way' as once was.
I agree with those who were disappointed with yesterday's announcement, although it's better than cutbacks of course.
Nevertheless, whilst I accept we will never have the depth & breadth of services of other more populated regions, I do think our strong economy & growth figures should count for something. However as said, many airlines probably think we are too far away to serve, let alone base something for summer or year round. I guess cost of flying to ABZ eg. fuel has a bearing.
In previous years I never got the impression the BAA were working too hard to attract business to ABZ, sitting back & relying on the oil industry. Much revenue generated at ABZ was used elsewhere. I think the BAA in the last couple of years have been more committed I think. Whether that sees more airlines/routes? Only time will tell. I have no doubt they continue to talk, but they have to get over the perception that Aberdeen/Grampian is remote & difficult to get to. Yet airlines & people fly all over the world, so you would think nowhere is as remote & 'out of the way' as once was.
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I still think we'll get something for next year on the leisure front. Jet2 are probably most likely - they expressed interest when they opened their GLA base but whether they still are is a different matter. There is a market here for a LCC to sun destinations it's just a shame airlines don't see it that way.
With Lufthansa I'm not too worried yet as November is a while away and a/c types do change all the time (especially with LH as I've noticed!) so I doubt there'll only be CR7s. Hell, could be worse, they've dropped LGW after only one year!
With Lufthansa I'm not too worried yet as November is a while away and a/c types do change all the time (especially with LH as I've noticed!) so I doubt there'll only be CR7s. Hell, could be worse, they've dropped LGW after only one year!
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P&J report had Thomson citing the runway ext as a factor in offering more flights, avoiding a fuel stop on the TFS run at the likes of Santiago SCQ. Also that they may look at other offerings depending on how things go. But they all say that I guess!
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I see that someone has asked on the Airport's Twitter if they will ever get a link to Faro, Portugal again. To which they replied
[QUOTE]We are working every single day on leisure options, speaking to all manner of airlines, and yes Faro is on the radar[\QUOTE]
I'm not sure whether this is another post from an airport living in fantasy land (who thinks that making Tenerife and Palma year-round is listening to the people or if they genuinely are close to more announcements for Summer 13! What I can't understand is that if they are working with airlines every single day why has there been no major announcements since Frankfurt last year!
I suppose it isn't just a case about getting new routes, it is also a case of improving facilities. I still can't believe we only have two baggage belts and the terminal is still the same shape and size as it was 10 years ago. Apart from the runway extension no money has been invested in the infrastructure of ABZ. Most airports the size of this one has either redeveloped their terminals or started from scratch with a new terminal (I.e Bristol or Liverpool). I remember being told by a ADM that they were really concerned about handling three 757s in the space of an hour, one peak day last year, as it would flood the terminal building! And look at the carry they have if an aircraft larger than a 757 does land!
[QUOTE]We are working every single day on leisure options, speaking to all manner of airlines, and yes Faro is on the radar[\QUOTE]
I'm not sure whether this is another post from an airport living in fantasy land (who thinks that making Tenerife and Palma year-round is listening to the people or if they genuinely are close to more announcements for Summer 13! What I can't understand is that if they are working with airlines every single day why has there been no major announcements since Frankfurt last year!
I suppose it isn't just a case about getting new routes, it is also a case of improving facilities. I still can't believe we only have two baggage belts and the terminal is still the same shape and size as it was 10 years ago. Apart from the runway extension no money has been invested in the infrastructure of ABZ. Most airports the size of this one has either redeveloped their terminals or started from scratch with a new terminal (I.e Bristol or Liverpool). I remember being told by a ADM that they were really concerned about handling three 757s in the space of an hour, one peak day last year, as it would flood the terminal building! And look at the carry they have if an aircraft larger than a 757 does land!