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As far as I am aware there are no plans to enlarge the main apron.
The next related works would be the re-opening of Taxiway Alpha.
Did the ATCO's let anything slip speedbird? Do tell!
Well done to all at Knock who have managed to entice Flybe in with an Edinburgh service AND have also managed to get 3 Ryanair services to the Canaries next year. I wonder how long it'll be before City of Derry Airport have a "Big" announcement?
The G5 from Delhi was United Healthcare's N57UH . I wouldn't think it was Airport OR call center related. My money would be on something Pharmaceutical related.... It diverted into Aldergrove due to weather.
The next related works would be the re-opening of Taxiway Alpha.
Did the ATCO's let anything slip speedbird? Do tell!
Well done to all at Knock who have managed to entice Flybe in with an Edinburgh service AND have also managed to get 3 Ryanair services to the Canaries next year. I wonder how long it'll be before City of Derry Airport have a "Big" announcement?
The G5 from Delhi was United Healthcare's N57UH . I wouldn't think it was Airport OR call center related. My money would be on something Pharmaceutical related.... It diverted into Aldergrove due to weather.
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SpeedbirdATC - that "Lovely" Challenger you saw at Eglinton, visiting from Stansted? N45PH? err it cancelled - it never visited! Are you sure of the type? could it have been a MIRAGE?
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As far as I am aware there are no plans to enlarge the main apron.
The next related works would be the re-opening of Taxiway Alpha.
Did the ATCO's let anything slip speedbird? Do tell!
SpeedbirdATC - that "Lovely" Challenger you saw at Eglinton, visiting from Stansted? N45PH? err it cancelled - it never visited! Are you sure of the type? could it have been a MIRAGE?
I'll double check with ATC next week and see if I mistook the Canadair for something else.
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Due to it being widely known that I wish Flybe would announce routes out of LDY. I decided to create a mock flight plan with a DASH based at LDY.
Mon
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – EDI, EDI – LDY, LDY – MAN, MAN – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Tue
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – BRS, BRS - ?, ? – BRS, BRS – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Wed
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – EDI, EDI – LDY, LDY – MAN, MAN – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Thurs
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – BRS, BRS - ?, ? – BRS, BRS – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Fri
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – EDI, EDI – LDY, LDY – MAN, MAN – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Sat
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – NCL, NCL – LDY, LDY – ABZ, ABZ – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Sun
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – EDI, EDI – LDY, LDY – MAN, MAN – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Furthermore, I would think, range permitting that over the Summer months and possibly Winter months routes to Paris and Amsterdam could be sustained on Fridays and Sundays.
I know it would be a large route roll out, but the kind of hype that would surround it would help to sustain all the routes.
Any thoughts?
N.B. As Flybe has bases at both ABZ and NCL, extra rotations could be provided by stationed aircraft at these airports.
Mon
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – EDI, EDI – LDY, LDY – MAN, MAN – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Tue
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – BRS, BRS - ?, ? – BRS, BRS – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Wed
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – EDI, EDI – LDY, LDY – MAN, MAN – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Thurs
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – BRS, BRS - ?, ? – BRS, BRS – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Fri
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – EDI, EDI – LDY, LDY – MAN, MAN – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Sat
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – NCL, NCL – LDY, LDY – ABZ, ABZ – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Sun
LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY, LDY – EDI, EDI – LDY, LDY – MAN, MAN – LDY, LDY – LGW, LGW – LDY
Furthermore, I would think, range permitting that over the Summer months and possibly Winter months routes to Paris and Amsterdam could be sustained on Fridays and Sundays.
I know it would be a large route roll out, but the kind of hype that would surround it would help to sustain all the routes.
Any thoughts?
N.B. As Flybe has bases at both ABZ and NCL, extra rotations could be provided by stationed aircraft at these airports.
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I'm not so sure Flybe would explode onto the scene with quite such a large amount of rotations/routes, but it's a lovely thought. Would love to see it happen myself. Not so sure about ABZ working? EDI, MAN and LGW would definitely be popular.
As for a/c type an E195 would fill no problem on a LGW route and then a Dash 8 for the other routes.
Fingers crossed then.
As for a/c type an E195 would fill no problem on a LGW route and then a Dash 8 for the other routes.
Fingers crossed then.
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In theory an Aberdeen flight could work as Aberdeen has some 3 million pax per annum. In practice however LDY hasn't been able to sustain even EDI or MAN on a few occasions, nor BRS with Ryanair, nor a second London route (nor even a proper schedule to a single London airport).
Until that can be put right, what is the future for the airport?
Until that can be put right, what is the future for the airport?
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With all this snow and cancellations its too early to say whether LDY will have seen a passenger increase or decrease this year.
November's provisional figuires indicate on a rolling year basis a 3.4% passenger reduction. That's not as bad as it seems given the double digit reductions of the last year and indeed the last few months have even shown an increase. So it looks like the aviation problems might be bottoming out at LDY at least.
On the plus side, LDY looks like it will have risen from 30th busiest in the UK to position 29 with airport 28 (Norwich) now doing less than LDY did at its peak in 2008 and so within striking distance.
During the credit crunch / aviation crisis / recession LDY has leapfrogged Blackpool, Durham Tees Valley, Humberside and Newquay.
November's provisional figuires indicate on a rolling year basis a 3.4% passenger reduction. That's not as bad as it seems given the double digit reductions of the last year and indeed the last few months have even shown an increase. So it looks like the aviation problems might be bottoming out at LDY at least.
On the plus side, LDY looks like it will have risen from 30th busiest in the UK to position 29 with airport 28 (Norwich) now doing less than LDY did at its peak in 2008 and so within striking distance.
During the credit crunch / aviation crisis / recession LDY has leapfrogged Blackpool, Durham Tees Valley, Humberside and Newquay.
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SpeedbirdATC - that "Lovely" Challenger you saw at Eglinton, visiting from Stansted? N45PH? err it cancelled - it never visited! Are you sure of the type? could it have been a MIRAGE?
ALPHA ECHO I presume you think I'm seeing things, or do you really think I saw a fighter jet on the apron?
I'll double check with ATC next week and see if I mistook the Canadair for something else.
I'll save you the bother - only three aircraft types visited that day (16th) - ATR 72, ATR42 and Boeing 737 - 800's. The challenger cancelled.
ALPHA ECHO I presume you think I'm seeing things, or do you really think I saw a fighter jet on the apron?
I'll double check with ATC next week and see if I mistook the Canadair for something else. I'll save you the bother - only three aircraft types visited that day (16th) - ATR 72, ATR42 and Boeing 737 - 800's. The challenger cancelled.
Alpha, you're coming across as a bit of a grumpy sod there, so I thought I'd lighten the mood by telling you a strange story about my flight from LDY-BHX yesterday.
I checked in very late Saturday night, meaning I was number 183. When I got to the airport, the security staff said they were expecting a full flight. When onboard it became clear that the cabin crew weren't expecting a full flight, as they had a full row of seats at the back of the plane closed off (and may have well have closed one off at the front too). Once everyone was on board it became clear there were five people standing, leading to a u-turn and the freeing up of the row of seats in question.
Now, does anyone know why the staff on the plane wouldn't be aware of the flight being full, thus closing an entire row and extending the boarding time (something they're always banging on about)? The obviously very, very hungover group of Brummie lads who took the row, at least saw the funny side of the situation.
I also heard a whisper (only a whisper), that Flybe are seriously considering LDY for a route or three either as part of their "robust" response to Baby turning up at BHD, or perhaps just as ongoing expansion (the whisperer in question was unsure which it was).
Either way, let's hope 2011 is a good one for LDY.
I checked in very late Saturday night, meaning I was number 183. When I got to the airport, the security staff said they were expecting a full flight. When onboard it became clear that the cabin crew weren't expecting a full flight, as they had a full row of seats at the back of the plane closed off (and may have well have closed one off at the front too). Once everyone was on board it became clear there were five people standing, leading to a u-turn and the freeing up of the row of seats in question.
Now, does anyone know why the staff on the plane wouldn't be aware of the flight being full, thus closing an entire row and extending the boarding time (something they're always banging on about)? The obviously very, very hungover group of Brummie lads who took the row, at least saw the funny side of the situation.
I also heard a whisper (only a whisper), that Flybe are seriously considering LDY for a route or three either as part of their "robust" response to Baby turning up at BHD, or perhaps just as ongoing expansion (the whisperer in question was unsure which it was).
Either way, let's hope 2011 is a good one for LDY.
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Any glimmer of hope is always welcome... would you know if this comes to fruition, what time scale it would happen within. Plus, any elaboration what route or three routes would be on the cards? Is it what we already suspect?
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Just heard on BBC Radio Foyle that they got a statement from Ryanair saying the Alicante filght is coming back in the summer.
We'll have to see if Ryanair follow through on this statement. They had gone to quite a bit of trouble to remove the route. They didn't only not load a schedule into their database, they reprogrammed their route map. The route map is a silverlight program that needs programed specifically to display each route, it doesn't work automatically from flights loaded into their database. Now they will have to reprogram the map to redisplay the LDY-ALC route if true.
This gives me some hope (that had turned to despair following the axing of the route) that there could even be further routes announced in the future.
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The map is due to be updated soon as a number of routes have to be removed from it.
I was just looking at the airport website and the least the airport could do is add Faro and remove Luton from the map. When Aer Arann announced MAN and EDI they were not added to the route map and it's the same for Bourgas.
I was just looking at the airport website and the least the airport could do is add Faro and remove Luton from the map. When Aer Arann announced MAN and EDI they were not added to the route map and it's the same for Bourgas.
You'd think if this u-turn does occur, that RYR would want to get the flights loaded into the booking engine ASAP, having missed several months of sales already.
Great news if it does occur (especially for Amelia!!)
Great news if it does occur (especially for Amelia!!)
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Quite. U-turn is exactly the phrase I'd use as I can see no other explanation for it. Having deleted the route from the route map and not having loaded flights when all other routes were loaded gives the distinct impression that Ryanair was minded to end the service. I would presume that the change of heart is motivated by the availability of an aircraft given all the chopping and changing of routes at German airports, etc, rather than any faith in the LDY-ALC route itself.
I just hope that the latest statement isn't a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. The statement did say that the summer routes had not yet been finalised, so maybe.
A real optimist would speculate that the route wasn't loaded because LDY is to get its own aircraft instead of an ALC one with maybe a few other routes but with the deletion off the route map I just can't buy that.
I wonder if the service is resurrected what months it will run, ie: 7 like 2010 or 5 like 2009. My money is on the latter. And will it still be twice weekly? (I think we can rule out increased frequency).
Oh and MOL if you're still thinking about the summer schedule what about Malaga - oh no what am I saying, do nothing that will damage the chances of Alicante in 2012!
Paris would be alright though
I just hope that the latest statement isn't a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. The statement did say that the summer routes had not yet been finalised, so maybe.
A real optimist would speculate that the route wasn't loaded because LDY is to get its own aircraft instead of an ALC one with maybe a few other routes but with the deletion off the route map I just can't buy that.
I wonder if the service is resurrected what months it will run, ie: 7 like 2010 or 5 like 2009. My money is on the latter. And will it still be twice weekly? (I think we can rule out increased frequency).
Oh and MOL if you're still thinking about the summer schedule what about Malaga - oh no what am I saying, do nothing that will damage the chances of Alicante in 2012!
Paris would be alright though
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I also heard a whisper (only a whisper), that Flybe are seriously considering LDY for a route or three either as part of their "robust" response to Baby turning up at BHD