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Belfast receives £1 billion of subsidies from the rest of Northern Ireland per year (as was revealed by "The 2 Plan" document during the assembly elections in May) so I don't think a one off payment of £7.5M for CODA is out of order.
As regards the perceived wisdom of 3 airports being too many in Northern Ireland, I'm not sure where this comes from nor
if those who state this think there should be two airports or just one airport. There are about 8 million passengers per annum from Northern Ireland so there could conceivably be 3 viable airports each with nearly 3 million pax.
Certainly comparing with England you wouldn't have an airport per 600,000 citizens but England has a population density 15 times greater than Northern Ireland so everything here is correspondingly further away and add to that the poor road and rail infrastructure except where the senior civil servants live.
The appropriate comparison is rather with Scotland or the South of Ireland. The South has 3 main airports and 6 regional airports on a population of 4.5 million versus 2.8 million here. Scotland has 2 huge airports (Edinburgh and Glasgow) and a major airport in Aberdeen. But it also has Prestwick (which used to have 2.5 million passengers but is now just a bit bigger than CODA at its peak) and numerous other regional airports necessary for connectivity. Dundee, which has a London PSO, only has 20K pax, so perhaps CODA isn't so bad after all.
As regards the perceived wisdom of 3 airports being too many in Northern Ireland, I'm not sure where this comes from nor
if those who state this think there should be two airports or just one airport. There are about 8 million passengers per annum from Northern Ireland so there could conceivably be 3 viable airports each with nearly 3 million pax.
Certainly comparing with England you wouldn't have an airport per 600,000 citizens but England has a population density 15 times greater than Northern Ireland so everything here is correspondingly further away and add to that the poor road and rail infrastructure except where the senior civil servants live.
The appropriate comparison is rather with Scotland or the South of Ireland. The South has 3 main airports and 6 regional airports on a population of 4.5 million versus 2.8 million here. Scotland has 2 huge airports (Edinburgh and Glasgow) and a major airport in Aberdeen. But it also has Prestwick (which used to have 2.5 million passengers but is now just a bit bigger than CODA at its peak) and numerous other regional airports necessary for connectivity. Dundee, which has a London PSO, only has 20K pax, so perhaps CODA isn't so bad after all.
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Funding package announced.
£2.5 million for route development and £4.5 million for infrastructure.
City of Derry Airport in line for £7m funding package - BBC News
£2.5 million for route development and £4.5 million for infrastructure.
City of Derry Airport in line for £7m funding package - BBC News
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Funding package announced.
£2.5 million for route development and £4.5 million for infrastructure.
City of Derry Airport in line for £7m funding package - BBC News
£2.5 million for route development and £4.5 million for infrastructure.
City of Derry Airport in line for £7m funding package - BBC News
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I've just noticed the very 1st message on this thread is someone in 2004 saying there's a rumour that Ryanair are ending their Stansted route.
It's true!
It's true!
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"City of Derry airport funding could create 'substantial number of jobs'"
City of Derry airport funding could create 'substantial number of jobs' - BBC News
City of Derry airport funding could create 'substantial number of jobs' - BBC News
DC_9.version.2.1. How do you feel about the subsidy for ONE AIRLINE at Antrim Field? You know. To keep a multi billion turnover airline happy. How do you equate that to a relatively modest (in the grand scheme of things) investment in a piece of infrastructure west of the Bann?
Have you ever lowered yourself to fly to LDY from your home city of Liverpool? I think I preferred the old version of you. At least that one was open and honest about your motives for commenting on LDY and BHD.
Have you ever lowered yourself to fly to LDY from your home city of Liverpool? I think I preferred the old version of you. At least that one was open and honest about your motives for commenting on LDY and BHD.
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The purpose of the money is to turn the airport into a viable concern. If this works then it is money very well spent and the government will recoup many times this amount in future taxation.
Who can say whether this will or not work. We will have to wait and see. No one has a crystal ball but how about a bit of faith and a bit of vision.
Who can say whether this will or not work. We will have to wait and see. No one has a crystal ball but how about a bit of faith and a bit of vision.
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Haha Cuthere, stooping to new lower levels of intelligence are you. Please don't get me started. I worked in revenue management,flown as a Cabin Manager had a great career in the airline industry. Have you. Your levels of aggression typify what the general public think of the likes of people like you from Londonderry/Derry. Underlying hatred and bitterness. Your airport is a waste of space and you know that.
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Radio Foyle are reporting that the aircraft maintenance operation will create between 70 and 100 jobs. This is associated with the £4.5M infrastructural grant. (New hangars?)
The timescale for the announcement of the new operator is expected to be months not weeks.
A PSO to London from the UK Department of Transport is expected but the £2.5M route development fund from Stormont is targeting Manchester and Birmingham.
People have been speculating about whether the new operator would be Flybe or Aer Arran. However the only operator to have expressed an interest recently in the airport are Citywings. I wonder would they be interested in the PSO to London?
The timescale for the announcement of the new operator is expected to be months not weeks.
A PSO to London from the UK Department of Transport is expected but the £2.5M route development fund from Stormont is targeting Manchester and Birmingham.
People have been speculating about whether the new operator would be Flybe or Aer Arran. However the only operator to have expressed an interest recently in the airport are Citywings. I wonder would they be interested in the PSO to London?
I'm not from Derry for your information, DC0. How's that fit with your preconceptions of the people of this city? My own experience is that the vast majority of people in this city are kind, caring, funny and intelligent. Like anywhere it has its idiots. A bit like EasyJet and its former cabin crew (and don't question someone's intelligence when the use of a question mark is beyond you). Perhaps if EZY had flown to Derry as they were on the cusp of doing some years ago, you might have found out all that for yourself on one of your stopovers.
As for Derry people being aggressive and full of hatred. I think the Apprentice Boys would disagree after every peaceful march they have in the city easy year.
Now. I've addressed your points. Any chance you could answer my questions?
As for Derry people being aggressive and full of hatred. I think the Apprentice Boys would disagree after every peaceful march they have in the city easy year.
Now. I've addressed your points. Any chance you could answer my questions?
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The announcement of aircraft maintenance is surprisingly similar to the announcement made for Shackleton barracks in Ballykelly in February of this year concerning a company called MJM from Newry.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-35663773
Surely this isn't just spin? But could there really be two aircraft maintenance companies looking to locate here?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-35663773
Surely this isn't just spin? But could there really be two aircraft maintenance companies looking to locate here?
Hahaha. That is all
Amelia, hard to know if it's the same company. What I would say is that Marty and Arlene seem very confident about all of this, which makes me think things are quite advanced behind the scenes. Fingers crossed for all concerned.
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I'd say the PSO is done thing with the i's and t's to be completed.
Flybe previously ran the manchester route with a forward onto Paris.
birmingham would be ideal for flybe
both would open up CoDA to worldwide alliances
Flybe previously ran the manchester route with a forward onto Paris.
birmingham would be ideal for flybe
both would open up CoDA to worldwide alliances
Agreed Buzz. With LPL being cut to twice a week, any BE to MAN could pick up that slack easily. There could eventually be demand for a 2x daily MAN.
BHX was one of the routes that did not make the cut for the Regional Connectivity Fund, but now with the route development money in place, BE could take it on too. A route with proven demand, though too thin for a 189 seat 737-800.
BHX was one of the routes that did not make the cut for the Regional Connectivity Fund, but now with the route development money in place, BE could take it on too. A route with proven demand, though too thin for a 189 seat 737-800.
I suspect the maintenance operation is pie in the sky (excuse the pun), what type of aircraft are they suggesting be maintained? If large passenger types the 2.5 million won't build the workshops never mind anything else.
How does giving money to the airport attract airlines do they mean special deals if you come here, is that not what happened with Ryan Air to the exclusion of others.
PSOs, been tried before and only operate until the subsidies are withdrawn or stopped.
Seems like DC 9 is not far of the mark.
Nobody would like Derry to succeed as much as I but throwing money at it will only anger the already angry rate payers.
How does giving money to the airport attract airlines do they mean special deals if you come here, is that not what happened with Ryan Air to the exclusion of others.
PSOs, been tried before and only operate until the subsidies are withdrawn or stopped.
Seems like DC 9 is not far of the mark.
Nobody would like Derry to succeed as much as I but throwing money at it will only anger the already angry rate payers.
DC-0.version.2.3 is very far from the mark. His comments are not driven by any proper assessment of the situation, rather from a deepseated dislike of anywhere but BFS. If I can be bothered later I'll find some of the ramblings of his alter ego.
As for maintenance. The airport can take 757s. Ergo, aircraft up to that size. The money for infrastructure is £4.5m. One would also imagine that if a private company was keen to set up, they would invest a substantial amount of their own money too.
As for maintenance. The airport can take 757s. Ergo, aircraft up to that size. The money for infrastructure is £4.5m. One would also imagine that if a private company was keen to set up, they would invest a substantial amount of their own money too.