What Cockpit? MK VI

[Noyade]

Possibly French,single engine piston fighter-trainer..?
It is possibly one or more of those.http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

Looking at bottom left - is the year 1953?
Single-engine piston? Is it French? I think I see the word "GAZ", but google says that's French for General...?

[India Four Two]

I think definitely French single-piston. Pre-war?

"Gaz" in this context is gasoline. "Mettez les gaz" means "step on the gas" or "full-throttle".

I was trying to see if the mixture control is backwards, but there's not enough resolution. ;)

[MReyn24050]

It is a French single-engined aircraft.:ok:

[evansb]

Looks like wood construction.. I'll say it is a Caudron 714.

[MReyn24050]

Bri. It is of wooden construction. My source states it is the cockpit of the Caudron C.710 from which the CR-714 was derived. It was also stated that the were slight differences in the cockpit layout. However, you have control.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/CaudronC-710.jpg

[evansb]

Thank you Mel. I saw a hydraulic reservior/cylinder in your photo which I thought may be related to retractable under carriage, hence my C.714 guess. My second guess would have been the C.713.

Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP121107.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Russian perhaps?

[evansb]

Yes, very Russian.

[Noyade]

Yes, very Russian.

Tupolev?......

[evansb]

Tupolev? Da.

[Noyade]

Tupolev? Da. Sounds like computer jargon, but is it the open cockpit on the USB...?

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6894/maybeu.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/maybeu.jpg/)

[evansb]

Yes, the Tupolev USB.:ok: You have control.

[Sir Stanley Bigh]

Throttle quadrant believed to be ex-RAF

Any takers?
http://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o677/twistedwire99/Photo2012-11-08060618PM.jpg

[sycamore]

Jetstream..?

[dixi188]

Agree.
SAL-J is Scottish Aviation Limited - Jetstream
Turbomeca Astazou powered version.
IIRC the thumb wheels were to bring the rpm up slowly from ground to flight range because if you pushed the small levers too quickly the engine would over temp.

[Noyade]

Thanks Brian!

I'll just sneak this one in here...

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6678/img388h.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/img388h.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Interesting aircraft Graeme. Something from the USA?

[Noyade]

European Mel.

[MReyn24050]

Koolhoven FK-52 perhaps?

[Noyade]

Very well done Mel. :ok:

All yours.


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7007/img412m.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/145/img412m.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Great challenge Graeme. It was the cockpit surround that caused me problems. Here is the next, somewhat older than yours.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz461.jpg

[Noyade]

The photographer has taken the snap looking through a large porthole?
Is he in the passenger cabin?

Another Russian mate?

[MReyn24050]

This one was not Russian. As regards the view from the passenger cabin I would say from a crew compartment.

[Noyade]

crew compartment.

Bomber?
British?

[MReyn24050]

Not a bomber or British. It was French and operated from water.

[Karlark]

Afternoon Mel,

Was it a Latecoere 21?

[MReyn24050]

Hi Karl Not the Latecoere 21 but a similar aircraft that was built a few years earlier.

[evansb]

Donnet-Denhaut DD8/9 ?

[MReyn24050]

Bri. The aircraft in question Donnet-Denhaut DD8/9 but was the Donnet-Denhaut Bimoteur or DD10 the aircraft first flew 24 April 1918.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/DonnetDenhautlBimoteurNo2014.jpg

You have control

[evansb]

Thank you Mel. Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP121116.jpg

[India Four Two]

bri,

Very interesting, particularly that ASI.

Small twin-jet? Not American?

[evansb]

Yes, American design, and twin jet powered.

[Noyade]

Many built Brian?

[sycamore]

IAI/ATG Javelin...?

[evansb]

Not the ATG Javelin. Only one built. Late 1970s.

[aviate1138]

The weird oblique wing NASA AD-1 perhaps?

[evansb]

aviate1138 is correct.:ok: Your turn.

[aviate1138]

Thanks evansb :)

At work, so Open House.....

[Noyade]

Another...

http://i49.tinypic.com/6g8k9g.jpg

[Rosevidney1]

The flying scale Short's Stirling? OH if correct.

[Noyade]

Not the S.31 mate.

But you're very close......:)

[evansb]

Short S.20 Mercury ?

[Noyade]

G'day Brian!

Short S.20 Mercury ?

Yes indeed. Your control. :ok:

[evansb]

G'day mate! A perfect challenge! It was historical, and nostalgic. Also, the photo incorporates a red herring; the aircraft appears to be under construction, as the nose cone is not installed, thus allowing light to flood in, making it appear to have a perspex nose. Light also floods in through a hole in the instrument panel, where I presume the compass is mounted.

Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP121118.jpg

[MReyn24050]

The Savoia-Marchetti S.56 I believe.

[evansb]

Mel is correct.:ok: Your turn.

[MReyn24050]

Here is an easy one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz462.jpg

[aviate1138]

A Parasol Wing ANBO-IV maybe?

[MReyn24050]

You have it aviate1138 the ANBO-IV you have control.

[Noyade]

Sorry, just a brief interlude before aviate1138 posts a challenge.
Anyone know what this aircraft is? I don't and the caption just says it's German...

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/112/workyabastard.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/547/workyabastard.jpg/)

[Noyade]

But if not - no problems.
Please continue on. :ok:

Cheers.

[MReyn24050]

Sorry, just a brief interlude before aviate1138 posts a challenge.
Anyone know what this aircraft is? I don't and the caption just says it's German..

The aircraft is a twin-engined aircraft and the control "wheel" would suggest a Focke-Wulf, however the canopy framework does not look like the FW-189. I believe the guys in the cockpit are from the Luftwaffe. Interesting.

[evansb]

I think it is a Focke-Wulf FW-58 Weihe (Harrier).

[aviate1138]

Does this help? Control column looks similar, as does power control base

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-11-20at173736.jpg

[aviate1138]

Anyway while the FW question rolls on, no reason not to dwell on the next cockpit.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-11-20at103811.jpg

[evansb]

Aermacchi MB-339 ?

[aviate1138]

evansb - no - wrong continent... :)

[Karlark]

Chengdu J-10?

[Noyade]

Cheers. :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Boeing X-32 perhaps?

[aviate1138]

No perhaps? about it, you have Control.

I think it is the X-32B cockpit.....

"Aesthetically challenged" was one description

"Short Fat Ugly Little Fu**er" was another!

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-11-21at063405.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks aviate1138, as you say a very ugly aircraft. This one is somewhat older:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Untitled-1-1.jpg

[Noyade]

Fighter?
European?

[MReyn24050]

Graeme
Not a fighter but used for reconnaissance and yes on European.

[MReyn24050]

Time for a clue. This aircraft first appeared in 1915 and saw service on all fronts.

[Noyade]

Not having much luck Mel.

Any of these fellas? Or do I need to look at different countries?

Aviatik CI
Aviatik BII
Ago CII
Rumpler CI
Loyd CII
LVG CII
Albatross CI

[MReyn24050]

Pick any one from seven. :).
:D You have it Graeme. It is the Rumpler C1

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Rumpler-C1_i_thumb5B55D.jpg

You have control.

[Noyade]

Thanks Mel, you're being very generous! But possibly it also stops you having to say "no, not that one" six times - with my luck. :)
I posted a cockpit a little earlier this morning thinking it was a newbie for your list as I couldn't see it under North American or Ryan, but there it was under Navion. Apologies to anyone who saw that. I'll try again...

Definitely not on your list, and I'm surprised by that...

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1908/img473r.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/img473r.jpg/)

[aviate1138]

A wild guess at a Culver Dart

[Noyade]

Not the Culver Dart mate.

[Mark 1]

Beech Staggerwing?

[Noyade]

Beech Staggerwing

It is indeed Mark. Your control. :ok:

[Mark 1]

I was struggling to find something suitable. How about this?

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t50/alberym/SunnFun2011/DSC_0135.jpg

[Agaricus bisporus]

'tis an Anas platyrhynchos from the nest of Grumman.

Open house!

[evansb]

Yes, the Grumman G-73 Mallard amphibian.

Dear Mark 1,
Thank you for posting a cockpit challenge. A pointer: To increase the difficulty, and reduce guess work, posters usually remove the manufacturer's name from rudder pedals, logos on control yokes, and registration/call-sign placards.

Best regards,
Bri

[India Four Two]

No wild fowl connection here:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/IMG_0802a.jpg

A special black rectangle on the left, specially for you, bri ;)

[Noyade]

G'day India.

Kitplane?
Pusher amphibian?

[India Four Two]

Not either of those, mate.

[Fitter2]

Stemme S10??

[India Four Two]

Sorry for the delay. I've been travelling.

Fitter2 has it - the Stemme S10 motorglider.

I can see why it might be thought a pusher, since the prop is hidden when the engine is stopped. See the pictures here: Stemme S10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stemme_S10)


You have control, Fitter2.

[Fitter2]

LNAV on the panel (=glider) and the big handle in the middle were a bit of a give-away, although I have only flown one once, a few years ago.

Try this:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2yyttfb.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Sting S3 perchance?

[Lightning Mate]

Or maybe a TL-2000.

[Fitter2]

Lightning Mate has it, the Sting indeed - I was wondering after a couple of days whether a clue was needed, but obviously not.

Over to a WIWOL...

[evansb]

After 24-hrs, a clue is suggested...

[Lightning Mate]

Thanks F2.

I'll offer this one up.

Brian?

[Fitter2]

After 24-hrs, a clue is suggested...

Noted for future reference:O

[Lightning Mate]

tut tut Fitter.

I only looked at this at lunchtime today.

[Fitter2]

Hi LM

Brian suggested a clue after 24 hrs, a convention I was unaware of, but am happy to conform to the senior residents ;)

[Noyade]

I'll offer this one up.That's open house?

Couldn't see this on Mel's list....

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/31/img486g.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/715/img486g.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

NORD NC 858

[Noyade]

NORD NC 858

It is indeed.

Your control again.

[Lightning Mate]

Cheers mate.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/challenge.jpg

[Noyade]

Is it the VAN's RV-10?

[Lightning Mate]

Sure is mate - back to you. :D

[Noyade]

Remarkable......thank you.

Now try this one mate...:)
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6518/img477f.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/img477f.jpg/)

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/2807/zoomr.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/600/zoomr.jpg/)

[Lightning Mate]

Remarkable......thank you.

Would you believe it was an Aussie registered aeroplane VH-VVD.

edit - are you going to try mine on you-know-where?

[Noyade]

Would you believe it was an Aussie registered aeroplane VH-VVD.

Why, yes David....I would believe that...:)

[Lightning Mate]

bar steward!

[Noyade]

bar steward!

Now, isn't that the, what do ya say over there? - "the pot calling the kettle black"

:)

[Lightning Mate]

Yep.........:E

[Noyade]

Yep.........:E

Yesssss......I thought so. Well, you have my latest. Best of Google luck mate. :E

[Cubs2jets]

Howard DGA.

Open House if correct.

C2j

[Lightning Mate]

Good shot!!!

[Noyade]

Howard DGA.Well done mate! :ok: Belonging to Haig Sakajian in the 70's...

http://imageshack.us/a/img13/1461/img507w.jpg

Open house has been declared.

[evansb]

A dying thread this. Four (4) days and no posting? So it goes. Here goes:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/El_Kapitan.jpg

[Noyade]

Early post WW2?

[evansb]

circa 1950s..

[aviate1138]

I will have a shot at a Ruski......

Myasishchev M-50 perhaps?

[evansb]

It is a Myasishchev, but not the M-50 Bounder.

[NutherA2]

Bison, perhaps?

[evansb]

Yes, NutherA2, it is a Myasishchev M-4 "Bison".:ok: Your turn.

[NutherA2]

Once upon a time I formated on a pair of Bison for a couple of hours; the route included a southerly leg as far as a turning point some 40nm off Hull before heading north and being dropped off close to Bell Rock as our fuel state reached joker for recovery to Leuchars. I was never close enough to make out any internal details of the flight deck, though, this really was a lucky guess.

Open House..........

[Background Noise]

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/trythis.jpg

[dash7fan]

Antonov 2 ???

[Background Noise]

Very good - AN-2 it is.

[dash7fan]

Thanks, open house please

[Noyade]

A dying thread this.Then is it time to re-discuss the option of uploading cockpit shots from the outside?

Just a thought.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1781/img534.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/100/img534.jpg/)

[NutherA2]

Something Naval?............Vixen??

[Noyade]

Vixen??

Yes mate, the Sea Vixen. :) Your control.

[NutherA2]

The V shaped windscreen helped. Thanks, but Open House again.

[Background Noise]

Another one,

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/P1040125-1.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

East European jet?

[Background Noise]

East European, yes, jet, sort of.

[Lightning Mate]

Must be a quick turboprop then.

[Agaricus bisporus]

Gives me the leans just looking at that AI - and what is the strange instrument to its right? Looks like a combined VSI and turn indicator - any experts know?

Anyway, it's a PZL Orlik .

OH

[Lightning Mate]

It looks like it was taken airborne.

The ASI is showing about 250 IAS and the AI shows 20 degrees right bank.

Then if the instrument to the right is a VSI/turn indicator (and that's a new one on me), it's showing what I guess is rate 2.

The bank angle and speed would not give this rate of turn.

:confused:

[Agaricus bisporus]

The ASI is showing about 250 IAS

No it ain't buddy...read the label!

Welcome beck!

[Background Noise]

PZL-130 Orlik is correct. The dials are in kph, height in metres. You're not wrong about the AI though, I've got one somewhere with the outside world in view and it's bonkers. At least the black is at the bottom unlike the predecessors.

[Noyade]

Here's another. According to the source, this aircraft nearly bankrupted the company concerned....

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7387/img553z.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/img553z.jpg/)

[evansb]

Boeing YB-9 ?

[Noyade]

G'day Brian. :)

Right era, country, purpose and the designation is extremely close, but not a Boeing.
Here's an additional shot giving the cross-section shape. Cockpit was normally covered....

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4954/img558j.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/img558j.jpg/)

[NutherA2]

Martin YB10?

[Noyade]

The Martin B-10 will do mate. Your control. :ok:

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/352/img561w.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/542/img561w.jpg/)

[NutherA2]

Thanks Noyade, I'm not one of the experts on this thread, it was just a lucky guess enabled by your clues & Google.

Open House again.:ok:

[Background Noise]

OK, here's the follow-up from above. Now you can see how the AI looks in real life - but in which ac?

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/P1040154.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

Did you take that photo?

[Background Noise]

I can neither confirm nor deny...... Why, will there be an unmarked car coming for me? :)

[Lightning Mate]

I just love that pulley wheel!

[Background Noise]

And the cable going round the blast screen into the front cockpit. Something to do with the canopy jettison I think and/or the seat/canopy interconnect.

[Lightning Mate]

Looks really Heath Robinson.

So we're looking at a mil trainer?

edit: and wtf BUSOLI.

[Background Noise]

You mean wtf-ski. Type it in here: Google Translate (http://translate.google.co.uk)

[MReyn24050]

PZL TS-11F Iskra perhaps.

[Background Noise]

TS-11 Iskra it certainly is. Over to you. BTW busoli appears to translate as compass. I have another interesting AI if MReyn does not have one ready.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Backgound Noise.
Please be my guest and go ahead and post. The one I had ready even though cropped can be so easily found by Google image it is not worth posting.
Mel

[Background Noise]

Ok, last one. Here the ac rolls round the AI (unlike the ones above) but spot the difference in pitch.

Actually this one is not airworthy, and I'm not certain of the type, but lets ee what anyone makes of it. You'll be pleased to see it also has a busoli!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/P1040101.jpg

[Agaricus bisporus]

Its a later model (perhaps licence built?) early Bolshie s/e jet.

The obvious choice is Mig 15?

Agh! That AI is even worse!

[Background Noise]

Since I can't be sure, I can't legislate but not a 15 I don't think. The Poles had their own versions of those early Migs - it may well be a WSK Lim-6M which is a Polish-built Mig 17. It doesn't seem to be quite the same as pictures I can find on the web except that the only one I can find with the white stripe in the same place is a Mig 17. Anyway it's a simulator so who knows.

OH

[evansb]

Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP121217.jpg

[aviate1138]

Ha! It's a Meteor. Phoenix not Gloster.

[evansb]

Yes, it is a Phoenix L.2 Meteor. Your turn.

[aviate1138]

Thanks evansb

OPEN HOUSE

And a Happy Christmas/Holiday/Whatever :)

[TheiC]

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9391/imageujh.jpg

[500 above]

Embraer Legacy 450?

[TheiC]

I think you can have that... It's the -500 in fact, but there are tiny differences. You have control.

[500 above]

Thanks, open house though due to me being unable to post a picture!

[Background Noise]

Here goes,

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/P1000864.jpg

[500 above]

PC9 derivative? Possibly a Texan II.

Edit - open house if correct.

[Background Noise]

Correct - more completely, it's a T6B Texan II.

[India Four Two]

Not a new cockpit (it's been done before), but referring back to the Orlik cockpit photo, here's the same VSI/T&S indicator in the cockpit of a Yak 52 that I flew recently. I imagine flying on limited panel using this instrument would take quite a bit of practice:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/IMG_0814a_zpsccb55659.jpg

[Noyade]

It's on Mel's list, but I don't think it featured Hannibal Lecter at the controls....

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9656/owwo.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/owwo.jpg/)

And a shot without the heavy breather in the front seat...

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5563/img581m.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/img581m.jpg/)

[India Four Two]

What became of your lamb, Clarice?

Eaten by the Aztecs? ;)

[Noyade]

Aztecs?

Ah, very good mate, very good! :ok:

The Turbo Aztec C with a service ceiling given as "over 36,000 ft".

Your control. :)

[India Four Two]

I can't believe this classic is not on the list. My first hands-on flying experience and my first loops:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/india42/WC2012-12-21_zps5785c98b.jpg

This should last all of five minutes!

[Background Noise]

35 at least, but is early here. Is that a Slingsby Sedbergh?

[India Four Two]

BN,

Yes, I forgot about the time. I'm UTC+7. Indeed, it is the Slingsby T21b Sedbergh.

Equipped with a Turn and Slip, but apparently no compass. That would make for interesting cloud-flying.

You have control.

[Background Noise]

A lot of folk must have cut their teeth on one of those. Way back at prep school, I remember the CCF had one of these - we called it the hedge hopper - assembled on the playing field and launched by rubber bands. Not sure what aviation rules there would be for that these days.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/ScreenShot2012-12-21at082617.png

[India Four Two]

The Primary Glider. I've just discovered it is actually called a T38 Grasshopper.

When I went solo in a T21 at Dishforth way-back when, the club had an airworthy Grasshopper. Ironically, only experienced pilots were allowed to fly it!

[Background Noise]

Ah, thanks for that, memory 50% correct!

Back to the modern mundane, try this:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/DSCF0019.jpg

[TheiC]

Pilatus PC-9, probably an early aircraft..?

[Background Noise]

Absolutely - not sure about where it falls in production history, it's a '99 model I think. Over to you.

[TheiC]

Many thanks. I'll say OPEN HOUSE as I haven't time to find something until this evening...

[TheiC]

OK, found a few minutes...

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9527/cockpitgt.jpg

[500 above]

PAC Cresco?

Open house if correct.

[TheiC]

The Cresco it is; 500above has declared OPEN HOUSE.

[Background Noise]

One last pre-Christmas offering:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/Untitled.jpg

[TheiC]

Perhaps there's time for you to fit one or two more in before Donner, Blitzen, et al are harnessed..?

Is that a BAe Hawk variant?

[Background Noise]

It is - do we want to keep guessing the mark?

[TheiC]

115 perhaps?

[Background Noise]

Yes, that's the one.

[TheiC]

Many thanks, a lovely aircraft.

I'll say OPEN HOUSE again, though if I find time to put something up, I'll post it (please don't anyone wait for this - crack on!).

[evansb]

Four days later, here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/gee_its_a_jay_peg.jpg

[aviate1138]

It could be the Convair TF 102A perhaps?

[evansb]

Correct. :ok: Your turn.

[aviate1138]

Thanks evansb. Sorry about delayed response. Kids and ex-wives and Christmas...........

Open House and a Happy New Year peeps.

[Noyade]

ex-wives You've been a busy boy? :)

Seasons greetings right back at you mate. :ok:


http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2466/onejj.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/onejj.jpg/)

And since it's the Jolly Season and it's better to give than receive, here's the cockpit from the outside...

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1087/one1c.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/one1c.jpg/)

[Cubs2jets]

Davis DA-4.

C2j

[Noyade]

That'll do mate. The Davis DA-5A. Your control. :ok:

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3027/img606w.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/img606w.jpg/)

[Cubs2jets]

LOL !! I at least got the designer right - is that all it takes to win now? We've done so many aircraft now it will take a little bit for me to come up with a challenge. Give me a mo...

OK, here we go...

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/5285_zpsa7388290.jpg?t=1356866383

C2j

[aviate1138]

A friend some time ago restored a Rearwin Cloudster and only the other day I was looking at pictures of a few Rearwin restorations.

On the same website I saw your cockpit pic. Not a Rearwin but I used to fly a thinner/narrower version at Blackbushe in 1968/9........

Not calling the tune.....

Happy New Year peeps...... :)

[Cubs2jets]

From the art deco styling one can interpert that this design was from the late 1930's. All the styling was to make it look more "automobile-like" and was very expensive for a manufacturer known for inexpensive.

C2j

[aviate1138]

Your moniker should be Cub4jets....... :)

[evansb]

Piper J-4 Cub Coupe ?

[Cubs2jets]

Aviate1138 - my career spanned from Cubs to jets.

Evansb - I've wondered where you've been. Either off for the holidays or the cold has gotten to you?

Yes, the Piper J4 Cub Coupe. Piper's attempt at an "upscale" small airplane with an art deco interior with side by side seating. While the design was successful, it was the most expensive "Cub" to build due to compound curves and "fancy" interior. The last J4 was produced on December 11, 1941.

Over to you, evansb.

C2j

[evansb]

Thank you. Beautiful panel on that Piper! Weather is okay today, 0C at the airport, -5C with the wind chill factor, (winds are westerly gusting to 18kts). +2C on my south-facing deck though, so I just might BBQ tonight..

Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/LAST_ONE_FOR_2012.jpg

[aviate1138]

Cubs2jets " Aviate1138 - my career spanned from Cubs to jets."

C2J - sorry my attempt at subtlety didn't come off did it?

"Not calling the tune....." He who pays the Piper calls the tune.......

"Cub4jets." The J4 Cub was my hint.

Onwards and Upwards,

Happy New Year all Cockpiteers

[aviate1138]

The Doolittle 'Blind Flying" Consolidated NY-2 perhaps?

[evansb]

Yes, the Consolidated NY-2 Husky. You have control.

[Cubs2jets]

aviate1138,

No need to apologise, I was just explaining my username. I got both of your "hints", but I didn't count.

May 2013 be a happy new year for all...

C2j

[aviate1138]

Thanks C2j.

Not an unused cockpit on my horizon at present.

Open House.

Prosperous New Year all.

[Noyade]

Here's one not on Mel's list...

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7789/img608h.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/img608h.jpg/)

Happy New Year from the Southern Hemisphere!

(Now heading to work)

[evansb]

Happy New Year cockpiteers! (I love that word)

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/HAPPY_NEWYEAR_2013.jpg

[aviate1138]

In Russian there are big notices saying do not open these doors in flight! :rolleyes:

[Cubs2jets]

Noyade,

I'd wager that it is one of Richard's designs, but I can't find a picture to validate.

C2j

[Noyade]

Richard's designs

Dunno who Richard is mate.

The chief designer was from Piper.
The chief engineer from Chance-Vought LTV.

There was a retractable undercarriage version and a few years later, a fixed gear one. This is the fixed gear cockpit.

Cheers.

[Noyade]

From the outside....

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9261/img615k.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/203/img615k.jpg/)

[evansb]

Holly crap! That guy in the left seat looks exactly like my identical twin brother (if I had one).

[Noyade]

(if I had one)Parents sometimes lie Brian! Maybe it is your long lost twin brother, separated at birth?
Probably a cold-case to track him down now, but I can tell you what he was flying in 1992...if you like?

[TheiC]

This is a perplexing challenge... but I, for one, am not ready for an answer yet.

May I ask, was there any Lopresti involvement?

[Noyade]

G'day TheiC.

No, Mr Lopresti was not involved, but hey, he had an interesting career...

Roy LoPresti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_LoPresti)

Don't know who Brian's twin is, but he keeps popping up when these aircraft are featured in old magazines...here he is again, with a new squeeze on the right and in the retractable undercarriage version...

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/432/pceh.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/pceh.jpg/)

[TheiC]

Thank you... May I ask, is this a US design? I'm presuming a kit-built aircraft, not a factory production one?

[Noyade]

Yes mate, the USA. Kit-build.

Described as an "egg with wings". From what I've read, a little controversial in magazines at the time as writers disbelieved the projected performance figures.

The designer was Jim Griswold.

[TheiC]

Ah, I was getting quite close (I had another tab open on 'quest' when your clue came through...).

The Questair Venture.

I'll say OPEN HOUSE for now if I'm right.

[Noyade]

The Questair Venture.That'll do me mate. :ok: Cheers.

Mine was the version with legs, the Spirit...

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9490/img628r.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/img628r.jpg/)

Open House.

[Noyade]

Another not on Mel's list...

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6240/img672.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/404/img672.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Twin, Graeme?

[TheiC]

I'll stick my neck out and say Speedranger ST1 and as it was the only prototype, the reg is G-GPST...

[Noyade]

Yes it was a twin Mel. :)

Speedranger ST1 - the reg is G-GPSTWell done TheiC. :ok: My source called it the Speedtwin but Speedranger googles equally well I see.

SpeedRanger Aviation - News (http://www.speedranger.com/news/)

Your control.

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/120/img673q.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/img673q.jpg/)

[TheiC]

Many thanks. Try this:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8800/17jancopy.jpg

[Lightning Mate]

ICON A5....

[TheiC]

LM, you have it... The rather suprising Icon A5. From their website :The A5 proof-of-concept aircraft has completed hundreds of test flights, and production is scheduled to start at the end of 2012

Cirrus are doing the build. More here: ICON Aircraft | About ICON (http://www.iconaircraft.com/about-icon.html)

You have control...

[Lightning Mate]

Thank you TheiC.

Open house please.

[MReyn24050]

Open House!

Here is one to keep things moving:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz468_zps8cb43f46-1_zpsd5446039.jpg

[Noyade]

Well, we're not moving far here Mel. G'day by the way. :ok: Stopped snowing?

Thinking WWI?
French?
Parasol? Only because that support bar seems so close to the cockpit?

[MReyn24050]

Graeme. You are correct in that it was a WWI aircraft but it was not French nor a parasol.

[aviate1138]

My immediate reaction is to say Rumpler but I have no idea why....... must be the cold and a sluggish brain.

[MReyn24050]

Sorry for the delay. This aircraft was not from the Rumpler stable.

[Noyade]

Hi Mel.

Is it German?

[Noyade]

I'm now looking at inverted V struts very close to a cockpit opening, hopefully a German biplane and not on your list. No idea if it's a single or two-seater yet.
Albatross appear to have done it a lot.

Here's a two-seater. It's an Albatross C X....?

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/9784/img685e.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/img685e.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Sorry for the delay Graeme. However this aircraft was not of German design or build it was in fact from the UK.

[Noyade]

OK, thanks mate.....a fighter?

[MReyn24050]

The aircraft was designed as a "fighting scout" towards the end of the war but was not a success.

[Noyade]

success.

Not having much of that myself mate. A clue at your leisure would be grateful.
I'm seeing many Brits with the struts in the normal V pattern but not like those in your photo - and yours looks like they originate from the sides of the cockpit? Almost seem to be obstructing the pilots entry?

[MReyn24050]

Hi Graeme
This aircraft was a monoplane. It had limited service during the later part of WWI. It did have a cramped cockpit and I am sure would have been a struggle to get in and out.

[NutherA2]

Bristol M1 ?

[aviate1138]

I reckon NutherA2 is spot on.

My question is why did Trenchard dislike monoplanes because apparently it was often snaffled by Aces like McCudden as their personal transport. The RFC didn't like it so Trenchard had his way and put back British fighter design quite a few years.
Also the first aircraft to cross the Andes btw.

[MReyn24050]

Sorry for the delay. It is indeed the Bristol M1
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/bristol-m1c-fighter_zps58a3b65f.jpg

You have control Nuther2

[NutherA2]

Thanks, MR, Open House please.......

[Woods]

Have we lost a page? There was a photo I can't find.:confused:

[aviate1138]

This one?

No idea what it is.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2013-01-25at085517_zps141ec549.png

[NutherA2]

Marathon, by Miles or Handley Page?

[Woods]

Yes, that one. I think it is a mock-up of the original Douglas DC-4(E). Open house if right. woods

[aviate1138]

Question - why did we lose a page?????

[Woods]

:confused:My error, I meant post, not page. It came back. woods

[evansb]

The original idea of this thread is that the poster knows the identity of the challenge cockpit.

The current stalemate is totally predictable.

To get this thread moving again, I'll support Woods contention that the challenge photo is of the mockup/prototype cockpit panel of the Douglas DC-4E.

[SincoTC]

Good evening all,

The original idea of this thread is that the poster knows the identity of the challenge cockpit

Indeed it is, but I would suggest that whoever posted the "missing picture" did know what it was! However, for whatever reason he then deleted it, but not before aviate1138 had seen it and I guess copied it to aid his search :)

Thanks are due to evansb for confirming it and unblocking the situation.

Woods has declared an Open House :ok:

Edit: I'll take this opportunity to apologise for my absence from the AH&N quiz threads recently and say that this has been entirely due to the reduction of my spare time (and enthusiasm) caused by the ongoing serious illness of a long-time work colleague, which has involved many extra duties :sad:

[aviate1138]

SincoTC
"but not before aviate1138 had seen it and I guess copied it to aid his search "

I have an iMac with Time Machine running and I just went back to the 25/26th when the pic was posted. :)

[aviate1138]

Don't think this has been on before....

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2013-01-25at085717_zps893878e6.png

[India Four Two]

I have an iMac with Time Machine running

aviate1138,

So you are Dr. Who? ;)

That pointed windshield looks very familiar but I can't place it.

[India Four Two]

Nakajima AT-2?