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evansb
24th Feb 2008, 20:23
Thanks Glenn. What daring feats they performed! Here is the next 'What Cockpit?'

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WC080224.jpg

ozbeowulf
25th Feb 2008, 06:18
It's a Meyers 200, methinks.

If correct, let it be open house, to let others have a chance.

Glenn

mustpost
25th Feb 2008, 08:01
I think Glenn is right, and what a performer the Meyers was - would have liked a bimble in it...:)
Got one that's not been done before...:8

ozbeowulf
25th Feb 2008, 08:28
That's nice, Mustpost, but Brian needs to confirm the identification first.

Glenn

evansb
25th Feb 2008, 14:03
Not a Meyers 200, but very close. The mystery aircraft was produced after the Meyers 200.

MReyn24050
25th Feb 2008, 16:21
If not the Meyers 200 how about the Aero Commander 200? If correct then it is still open house.

evansb
25th Feb 2008, 18:04
Yes Mel, it is indeed the Rockwell Aero Commander 200D. If Glenn would have said the Meyers 200D I would have said yes but with qualification.
Rockwell bought the rights to produce the Meyers in 1966. The Aero Commander 200D, produced from 1966 to 1968, was powered by a 285-hp Continental versus the Meyers 260-hp Continental. You have control.

mustpost
25th Feb 2008, 18:16
Well done Mel again!

I stand to be corrected (and frequently do because it saves time) but I am surprised this has not been done before - searched variants etc, but don't see it..

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/wot4.jpg

con-pilot
25th Feb 2008, 18:33
Twin Beech-18. Or more commonly know as the Beech 18.

mustpost
25th Feb 2008, 19:04
D*mn! And it hadn't been done - :D What took you so long/made it so quick? You have very probably flown one I think... I took the logo off the yokes as well.. :ugh:17 mins - hmmm
Twin Beech D18S
Congrats, over to you
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/wot4an.jpg


add - as always, there's a nice static E18S at the East Fortune Museum of Flight in East Lothian, Scotland.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/briggsbeech.jpg

C Jeremy Briggs

ozbeowulf
26th Feb 2008, 10:23
Was there an emergency evacuation and I didn't get the word?

Conpilot, it's your turn to post a challenge, whenever you're ready.

Cheers,

Glenn

mustpost
26th Feb 2008, 11:41
Helloooooo - it's all right Glenn, I'm still here with you...
Mike

MReyn24050
26th Feb 2008, 12:33
Not wishing to tread on con-pilot's toes but to keep the thread going I post this nice easy one. Apart from naming the aircraft can you name the pilot and the lovely co-pilot?
If you have one ready con-pilot I will remove this one.
Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz315.jpg

con-pilot
26th Feb 2008, 16:05
Sorry all, I'm having computer problems, so please have an 'open house' on me. Thanks.


(I was suprised that the Beech-18 had not been done before myself.)




(My stupid printer is shuting down my computer. Causing all kinds of problems.)

evansb
26th Feb 2008, 16:36
The Playboy Magazine's DC-9, Hugh Hefner as Captain, and Barbi Benton as First Officer.

MReyn24050
26th Feb 2008, 16:47
You have it Bri. 100% correct as usual. :ok::D.
You have control.
Mel

evansb
26th Feb 2008, 16:59
Thanks Mel! That was alot of fun! Here is another "thought it was on the list" one:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP080226.jpg

MReyn24050
26th Feb 2008, 17:40
As you say Bri, it is surprising this one has not been done before. Please check PM.
Mel

evansb
26th Feb 2008, 17:59
Mel, you are correct. Disregard my PM, as the reliable source is no longer considered reliable.

stevef
26th Feb 2008, 18:04
Puts me in mind of the HS125.

evansb
26th Feb 2008, 18:37
Yes it is a Hawker HS-125. Extra points for the series. You can see an older model parked in front of the challenge cockpit.

stevef
26th Feb 2008, 19:04
I'll pass this one on. :)
Steve

norwich
26th Feb 2008, 19:08
Is that meaning open house, I have sorted some to keep you amused for nano seconds ? Keith,

evansb
26th Feb 2008, 19:19
Okay, it is a HS125-700.

stevef
26th Feb 2008, 19:22
Over to you, Keith.

norwich
26th Feb 2008, 19:27
Thank you STEVEF, feeling nervous here never done this before, and know nothing about this ? but i bet you people do ! so here goes ......


http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/oldcockpit.jpg

evansb
26th Feb 2008, 19:33
Nice find. I think I know this one. Check your PMs.

norwich
26th Feb 2008, 20:35
Come on people, someone knows it ? its been 1 hour so clues ! first flight August 1944, and 152 built, if my info is correct ? Keith.

windriver
26th Feb 2008, 21:23
Martin Mauler?

norwich
26th Feb 2008, 21:30
windriver, you are indeed correct, it is the Martin AM-1 Mauler, a little more than nano seconds ! well done, over to you ? I think ? Keith ?

MReyn24050
26th Feb 2008, 21:32
windriver. :ok: I think it must have been the mauling that norwich gave us that prompted that. :)

norwich
26th Feb 2008, 21:36
And there's more to come !!!! thank you ???????????????

MReyn24050
26th Feb 2008, 21:56
Norwich. Good on you,it was a great challenge,:D The only other photograph of the Mauler I have seen shows a cockpit in need of restoration from your photograph it looks as though quite a bit of work has been done on this aircraft.

norwich
26th Feb 2008, 22:05
Thanks Mel, (if i can call you that), cannot tell you where it came from at the mo, as it would ruin future posts I have lined up, but it's out there on the net somewhere ???????????????? Keith ?

windriver
26th Feb 2008, 22:29
Relief at having got one right ... it's been a while.

Nothing until tomorrow I`m afraid.. so if someone wishes to post before I
do.. feel free.

norwich
26th Feb 2008, 22:38
Can I be realy realy rude, and post another one of the only two I have lined up ?????????????? Keith.

norwich
26th Feb 2008, 22:54
OK have trawled Mels excellent lists and cannot find this anywhere ????? I may be wrong, so please tell me off if so ! but .......... ?

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/DSC_0062.jpg

ozbeowulf
27th Feb 2008, 01:23
Looks like the Aerospatiale Concorde...

When confirmed, make it open house.

norwich
27th Feb 2008, 06:38
Ozbeowulf. You are so correct, sorry for delay, been asleep ! must work now, look forward to the next ............... Keith.

ozbeowulf
27th Feb 2008, 06:54
Thanks, Keith...

I'll stand aside for this one. Are you ready, Windriver? Or whoever has something prepared. Open house.

Glenn

mustpost
27th Feb 2008, 07:33
Morning all - don't think this variant has been done

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/wot5-1.jpg

OK it has been done but not this exact model...

S'land
27th Feb 2008, 17:47
Very clean and simple layout with a look of the 1940's or 1950's. American origin?

mustpost
27th Feb 2008, 17:55
Hi, yup, American, 40's - more if you try me :cool:

EditEdit

Shouldn't have invoked that curse <<incoming take cover>> Mel - Bri - Glenn et al....:O

Moira
27th Feb 2008, 20:33
Stinson Voyager 125

Open house if correct.

mustpost
27th Feb 2008, 20:51
Yes indeed.. congrats. Been done on the thread before as the Stinson 108-1, but that was the development of this original underpowered Voyager (Lycoming) 125 - serial after horsespowers....(but you all know that)..

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/voyager125.jpg

Upon reflection even the pic looks a bit wimpish.

Control to whoever..

norwich
27th Feb 2008, 20:56
Should I dare to go again ? What the heck !

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/oldcockpit2.jpg

mustpost
27th Feb 2008, 21:00
I was just logging off - but it's the F80C Shooting Star..:}

norwich
27th Feb 2008, 21:05
Mudpost, looks like its your go again, well done 4 minutes ! must find some more ? Keith.

mustpost
27th Feb 2008, 21:11
Hi gadgey (as we say in these parts!) Wots the Mudpost lark? No, you carry on, not posting till tomorrow, plse go again (subject to local rules etc..) :p
(or anyone else)

norwich
27th Feb 2008, 21:16
Oooooops ! Sorry about that, even I laughted at my own mistake ? MUST, MUST, MUST learn to read ! Keith. I cannot post any at the mo !

norwich
27th Feb 2008, 21:42
OK, just found this, its not very good, taken by me late last year, must have exact aircraft type ?

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/Image003.jpg

ozbeowulf
28th Feb 2008, 02:43
Well, basically, it is a DC-4/C-54 Skymaster... probably the military model because of the horizontal radio installation. But if you want an exact model type... and because that looks like a Canadian sticker on the power pedestal, I'll crawl waaaay out on a limb and guess that it may be a Canadair DC4M Northstar or a Canadair C-4 Argonaut.

norwich
28th Feb 2008, 05:56
Well Ozbeowulf, You are 99.9% correct, its here in the UK, I would have loved to have seen a northstar or argonaut last year, over here, but I don't think we have any left ? From its history, it was registered in Canada at some time during its life ? Must be easier now ? Keith.

ozbeowulf
28th Feb 2008, 06:38
Breaking news: I now believe this might be one of the old British Air Ferries Carvairs, based on the low point from which the photo was taken and the fact that the DC4/C54 has been used before.

norwich
28th Feb 2008, 06:47
Yes you are so correct, it was taken from a hole in the, boarded up, back of these remains, over to you. Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/Image011.jpg

ozbeowulf
28th Feb 2008, 07:30
Thanks, Keith...

That was an excellent challenge! Well done! It was easy to identify it as a DC-4 and the Canadian sticker suckered me into thinking a Merlin-powered variant was the model type you wanted.

Now for a change of pace...http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg192/ozbeowulf/wotzit_15.jpgI can't see this lasting very long. Just a bit of fun...

Glenn

Agaricus bisporus
28th Feb 2008, 10:48
What was that orrible thing the U boats towed with a hapless observer in it?

Flettner Kolibri?

larssnowpharter
28th Feb 2008, 10:59
Not the Kolibri but looks like a gyrocopter. An early Bensen or one of Wallis' early designs?

larssnowpharter
28th Feb 2008, 11:04
Further thought and some research. It's the FA 330A.

Open house as I'll be away for a few days.

ozbeowulf
28th Feb 2008, 11:30
Full marks to larssnowpharter! It is indeed the FA-330A! Imagine being dragged along by a U-boat, whirring and freezing a hundred feet up over the North Atlantic in December on this......
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg192/ozbeowulf/wotzit_15ext.jpg

(One rotor blade seems to be missing from this museum example)

Open house, the man says....

windriver
28th Feb 2008, 11:54
For this challenge I need the Aircraft type of course, but also a short note as to why for this challenge type 2008 is in some way "special".

http://www.aviationancestry.com/aaa1.jpg

Kitbag
28th Feb 2008, 12:04
75th Anniversary of a long distance flight?

windriver
28th Feb 2008, 13:33
Oh so close but wrong "plane" as it were...

Kitbag
28th Feb 2008, 13:44
Or did it use more fuel than it took off with?

windriver
28th Feb 2008, 13:48
.... Getting colder (If you're referring to Cobhams pioneering In Flight Refuelling)

682al
28th Feb 2008, 14:45
Is it the Westland P.V.3 as flown over the Himalayas in 1933?

The fact that so much oxygen equipment is featured in the photo makes this a tempting guess.

Kitbag
28th Feb 2008, 14:45
please ignore my PM, I think I got it wrong again!

windriver
28th Feb 2008, 15:13
682al has it .. well done:ok:

http://aviationancestry.com/EverestExpedition/EverestExpedition-WestlandWallace-1933-3.jpg


More info at http://aviationancestry.com/EverestExpedition/index.html if you're interested.

You have control.

682al
28th Feb 2008, 15:24
Thanks windriver, how about this one...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/Untitled-1.jpg

Kitbag
28th Feb 2008, 15:37
HP Hampden?

MReyn24050
28th Feb 2008, 15:52
Judging by the position of the compass, it looks like a British twin engine aircraft 1940s. How about the Gloster F9/37?

682al
28th Feb 2008, 15:59
Sorry both, it's not a British type.

Kitbag
28th Feb 2008, 16:09
Offset control column and yoke puts one in mind of a P38, perhaps (to account for the compass installation) one of the batch of P38Ds without the rather essential superchargers that went to the RAF (who gave the aircraft its popular name I think). Course I have been wrong twice already today so ...

682al
28th Feb 2008, 16:45
...so that makes it a third! (Sorry)

You are on the right lines though.

MReyn24050
28th Feb 2008, 17:08
Martin Maryland perhaps?

Kitbag
28th Feb 2008, 17:13
Not a fighter then, Martin Maryland?

I agree with the one above!

682al
28th Feb 2008, 17:25
You're almost there...

MReyn24050
28th Feb 2008, 17:42
I am sure kitbag is thinking the same, the Martin Baltimore perhaps?

Kitbag
28th Feb 2008, 17:44
Martin Baltimore (yes I am just guessing)

Doh:ugh:

MReyn24050
28th Feb 2008, 17:48
kitbag, If it is true then it is yours :).
Mel

Kitbag
28th Feb 2008, 17:54
No, no 'tis yours kind sir!

(besides I haven'tgot anything to put up:})

682al
28th Feb 2008, 17:55
Both correct of course.

An interesting aeroplane, about which I've read very little, except for the Pilot's handbook which is where the illustration comes from.

MReyn24050
28th Feb 2008, 18:08
Thanks 682al, a good challenge. Like you I too knew little about this aircraft, some interesting information on the aircraft here:-
http://www.marylandaviationmuseum.org/history/martin_aircraft/16_baltimore.html
This one is on behalf of 'kitbag':-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz314.jpg
Mel

Kitbag
28th Feb 2008, 20:49
Oops, we're in trouble now he forgot to add:


I am sure this next one will be no problem.
Mel


Any little Frenchman involved in the design?

MReyn24050
28th Feb 2008, 21:33
Kitbag. Well, knowing the experts we have out there I thought that the comment would be unnecessary :).

Yes a frenchman did have an influence in the design of this aircraft.
Mel

windriver
28th Feb 2008, 22:48
Piel Emeraude?

MReyn24050
28th Feb 2008, 23:00
Not the Piel Emeraude.

BSD
29th Feb 2008, 06:47
Good grief, is it not the mighty Condor? If it is, I didn't know of a French connection.

Cheers,

BSD.

mustpost
29th Feb 2008, 07:17
Originally designed in 1956 by Roger Druine.. I think you have it sir...

BSD
29th Feb 2008, 07:23
Mustpost,

Druine, of course! If it is the Condor, I can't believe it hasn't been done already.

Still haven't got anything suitable to post, the few I have available have already been posted.

Open house if I've got it.

BSD.

MReyn24050
29th Feb 2008, 10:12
BSD has it it, it is indeed the Rollason D.32 Condor. :ok::D
Norman Jones, the founder of the Tiger Club and owner of Rollason Aircraft & Engines, had already had a number of Druine D.31 Turbulents built by his company and hit upon the idea of developing the Condor for this role.

Initially Rollasons constructed D.62 G-ARHZ in 1961 with a 75 hp Continental A75, with which it made its first flight in May of that year. "Air Pictorial" for April 1961, when reporting the completion of this first Rollason-built specimen, mentioned that it was to be called the Tutor! In 1964 the first Condor was upgraded by the installation of a 90 hp Continental C90-14F engine.

The cockpit shown was from G-AWEI a D.62B similar to the aircraft shown below.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/1201849.jpg
As BSD says it is open house.

evansb
29th Feb 2008, 16:55
Here is the next cockpit challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WC080229-1-1.jpg

windriver
29th Feb 2008, 18:41
Gipsy engined taildragger late fifties?

evansb
29th Feb 2008, 18:42
Not a Gypsy engine, and not from the 1950s. It is a taildragger though.

Kitbag
29th Feb 2008, 19:26
Cabin framing puts me in mind of the old Stinson Reliant, though I find that difficult to reconcile with the apparent cowling shape.

norwich
29th Feb 2008, 21:13
Percival Vega Gull / Proctor ?

evansb
29th Feb 2008, 21:20
Not a Percival product.

Planegill
29th Feb 2008, 23:14
Gotha 150?

CoodaShooda
29th Feb 2008, 23:52
Messerschmitt bf108 Taifun?

evansb
1st Mar 2008, 00:20
Planegill is spot on:ok::D 10 Gotha Go.150s were planned, but only two were built. You have control.

Planegill
1st Mar 2008, 09:00
Here is a new one for you to ponder on:

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/planegill/Test14.jpg

mustpost
1st Mar 2008, 17:24
Hi - v. tricky (to me) and no responses so hints needed
American ,thirties? :O

norwich
1st Mar 2008, 18:14
Ummmm YAK 11 ???

Planegill
1st Mar 2008, 19:34
It is not Russian. I think it is another example of the aircraft in the background.

mustpost
1st Mar 2008, 20:24
I now believe it might be a Fairey Firefly

norwich
1st Mar 2008, 21:32
Hi MUSTpost, What does gadgey mean ? (post 1299) ? sorry still laughing. Keith.

Planegill
2nd Mar 2008, 07:45
The challenge aircraft is not British or Japanese

India Four Two
2nd Mar 2008, 07:57
Polish or Czech?

MReyn24050
2nd Mar 2008, 15:10
Just a wild guess,the Yakovlev AIR-9bis Trainer?

norwich
2nd Mar 2008, 16:07
Ummm ???? Zlin Z-326 Trener Master of some description ?????????? Keith.

Planegill
3rd Mar 2008, 00:09
It is from Czechoslovakia, but not the Z26/226/326/526/726 Series Trener family. It is not a Praga.

ozbeowulf
3rd Mar 2008, 05:15
I'm thinking the Praga BH-111.....

paulc
3rd Mar 2008, 06:14
Sokol / Meta Sokol series?

mustpost
3rd Mar 2008, 07:21
Beneš-Mráz Be-51?

Planegill
3rd Mar 2008, 09:14
Not the Be51, or the Meta Sokol. I think it was a pre-war aircraft.

mustpost
3rd Mar 2008, 09:20
If it’s not the Be-51, then I guess it might be a trick q. Is it an enclosed Klemm 35B built at the Zlin factory after ‘39 – like this one?


http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/kl35b.jpg

No it's not, stupid me
It's the 1935 Zlin Z-Xll

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/ZlinXII-2.jpg

MReyn24050
3rd Mar 2008, 16:44
mustpost. I would say that your change of mind will prove to be a wise move.
Another photograph of the Zlin Z-XII

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/chech15.jpg
Mel

mustpost
3rd Mar 2008, 19:30
Planegill's challenge -Zlin

But as Winston would say about your pic - this time with the "NAAAZZIS" in it..
No offence intended for the PC brigade, just repeating a very,very old broadcast.
Fascinating how the 3rd used so much of Czech aero technology and production...I had a flying model of the Klemm as a ..oh well, that was then etc
Hope I'm right tho'

Mike

Planegill
3rd Mar 2008, 22:33
Hi Mike. 100% correct, it is the Zlin XII. Well done.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/planegill/ZXII-Dwg-1.jpg

mustpost
4th Mar 2008, 06:25
Thanks, Planegill, that was a tough one.
A bit more up to date now, and bonus points if you know the features which set this a/c apart from its stablemates..
It's probably quite easy if you know your stuff..

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/wotcockpit6-1.jpg

Kitbag
4th Mar 2008, 07:59
Looks like a Kamov Ka50 helicopter with ejection seats.

mustpost
4th Mar 2008, 08:21
There! I knew you would find it easy. Kamov Ka-50, with contra-rotating co-axial rotor system - but 1 ejection seat for 1 pilot...unusual for gunship not to have two crew. Apparently explosive charges blow the rotor blades away before the hatch is jettisoned and our man goes for an interesting ride - even at zero feet(!) It's said to improve morale... :eek:




http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/Ka50.jpg

The floor is yours, well done!

Kitbag
4th Mar 2008, 08:53
TVM. Wrong place to post a challenge so the floor is open.

Regards

Kb

Fitter2
4th Mar 2008, 16:06
It's been a while, so just to keep it going

http://i27.tinypic.com/iqvgwo.jpg

stevef
4th Mar 2008, 16:54
Something makes me think Taylorcraft...

Fitter2
4th Mar 2008, 18:06
There's a good reason you might think that Steve, but not a Taylorcraft, or indeed from the USA.

Kitbag
4th Mar 2008, 19:57
Just been playing about with the image and the placards look as though they are cyrillic. Is this from the eastern side of the Iron Curtain?

mustpost
4th Mar 2008, 20:11
Made of acry(l)lic? :}

Ps why do I get the one day cabin crew ad on my post (quite a lot??)
Don't answer that plse

norwich
4th Mar 2008, 20:14
Sticking my neck out further than my knowledge should allow me, I will go with Piper J2 Cub ?????? Keith.

Fitter2
4th Mar 2008, 20:45
Not eastern European . And not a Piper Cub (although like the Taylorcraft there is a reason for some similarity). Hasn't the Cub been done before?

mustpost
4th Mar 2008, 20:54
In line with Kibag's thinking, and also looking closely, it does seem very 'agricultural' for an a/c. The ply and screw heads (and marks) do not look pretty. Iron curtain homebuild copy of a Taylorcraft/Cub...? So I guess it's a copy of something older :O


Sorry Fitter2, waited too long to post..

Fitter2
4th Mar 2008, 21:20
Mustpost's attempt is along the right lines, but geographically somwhat inaccurate. The type was in series production by a factory.

norwich
4th Mar 2008, 21:44
What about the Auster Agricola (maybe spelling incorrect), and the piper cub isn't listed.

Fitter2
4th Mar 2008, 21:56
Not an Auster. (Or UK built). One of these days, (if it hasn't been done already) somebody should do a genealogy of Mr Taylor's original design and it's many descendants.

I'm surprised the Cub isn't on the list - i suppose it's just too common, although I have a great affection for the type I did my first (power) solo in (L4 Cub, ex-military version of the J3).

I suppose should clarify it's no sort of Piper.

norwich
4th Mar 2008, 22:29
OK then, out on a limb again, agricultural looking, as stated before, so how about PAC FU 24 Fletcher ????

Fitter2
4th Mar 2008, 22:34
Not the PAC Fletcher. This was a trainer, but a later development was used for agricultural purposes.

norwich
4th Mar 2008, 22:45
Serious barrel scraping sounds now ! PZL Mielec M-18, M-24 dromador ???

evansb
5th Mar 2008, 02:53
Is it the C.A.P. 4 Paulistinha?, sometimes called a Neiva or "Paulista" CAP-4, which was developed into the Neiva P-56. The design was originally derived from the EAY-201 Ypiranga, circa 1935.

Fitter2
5th Mar 2008, 06:50
Bri has it. The CAP-4, descended from an unlicenced copy of the Taylor Cub (with a radial engine - the Paulhinista had a more conventional Franklin). Amazing that such differnt aircraft as the Super Cub 180, Auster AOP9 and Beagle Terrier could evolve from one original type.

Over to Mr Evans - I'm sure his challenge will be just that.

evansb
5th Mar 2008, 07:09
Thanks Fitter2. That was an excellent challenge. If a fellow ppruner would like to post a cockpit photo, the floor is open. I am off to bed, and will post my challenge around 1400 UTC if no one else has posted.

Kitbag
5th Mar 2008, 07:34
Amazing that such differnt aircraft as the Super Cub 180, Auster AOP9 and Beagle Terrier could evolve from one original type

And be developed over several different continents, I see the EAY-201 Ypiranga is Brazilian, a nation which in all honesty I hadn't even considered. Thanks for such an interesting and eye opening challenge.

Regards

Kb

larssnowpharter
5th Mar 2008, 08:27
We have had many aircraft from this stable so this should be easy:

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t295/larssnowpharter/challenge124.jpg

NutherA2
5th Mar 2008, 08:48
Foxmoth ?

larssnowpharter
5th Mar 2008, 09:07
100% right. :D:D:D There, said it would be easy! You have control

NutherA2
5th Mar 2008, 09:19
:) :) :) That's probably the only one I'll ever get right. Nothing to post, so open house for any expert..............

evansb
5th Mar 2008, 14:12
I see the Foxmoth is equipped with the optional clothes dryer. Should it be called the Clothes moth? :8 Here is the next cockpit challenge:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WC080305.jpg

stevef
5th Mar 2008, 14:48
Wild guess - Blackburn Type D?

evansb
5th Mar 2008, 15:27
Sorry Steve, not from Blackburn's stable.

mustpost
5th Mar 2008, 18:08
Farnham F-20? :O

Sorry bad computtting - I reckon it might be the Farnham F-40

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and again, standing my ground, I will say - it might be a pusher...(maybe)

evansb
5th Mar 2008, 20:01
Sorry, not a Farman. This one has the engine in front.

mustpost
6th Mar 2008, 11:21
Is it perhaps a Breguet C.U-1 ?
And is it in Sweden? :E

evansb
6th Mar 2008, 12:23
mustpost is spot on:ok::D Louis Breguet's Breguet 3, Type U1, early yet advanced design, it had a metal frame, tricycle undercarriage, and a tractor configured non-rotating radial engine. The Swedish B2. You have control.

mustpost
6th Mar 2008, 12:47
Many thanks - bit of luck really, stumbled on the last one at the Swedish Air Force Museum. I think it has now been restored a bit from the original pic.
This should not cause too much trouble

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/wotcockpit7.jpg

Cubs2jets
6th Mar 2008, 14:07
From the spar across the cockpit I will guess this is a Cassett (sp?) racer or some other formula one racer.

John Scott

mustpost
6th Mar 2008, 17:27
Hmmm.
Da*n that was quick.. Gotta give it.
It is the diminutive Cassutt Formula 1 racer (first designed 1954) and run by Team Aerophile.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj9/mustpost/cassutt.jpg


One day when my powers return I will post something that causes major headaches
One day.... :suspect:
The floor is yours my friend :D

Cubs2jets
6th Mar 2008, 21:38
Standby - I'm just back to the computer. Will post next challenge soon!

C2j

Cubs2jets
7th Mar 2008, 03:17
Sorry all, I'm unable to get a picture posted. Open house for anyone that wishes to post. I apologise that I have held things up.

C2j

norwich
7th Mar 2008, 06:30
Would like to leave this one with you all, possibly only take a few moments. Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/cockpits/cop7.jpg

Planegill
7th Mar 2008, 09:32
Looks like a Stinson SR9 Reliant from around 1937.

norwich
7th Mar 2008, 18:00
Planegill, Yes you are correct, it is that lovely Stinson, over to you. Keith.


http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/stin-sr9f.jpg

Planegill
7th Mar 2008, 19:16
Next challenge. Here is a nice easy modern one.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/planegill/Test15.jpg

windriver
7th Mar 2008, 20:07
Transall C-160?

norwich
7th Mar 2008, 22:16
Dassault Falcon 20 / HU 25 Guardian ??????????

Planegill
7th Mar 2008, 22:22
Sorry, not the C160 Transall or the Dassault Falcon

Cubs2jets
8th Mar 2008, 00:56
ATL-90 Accountant?

C2j

Planegill
8th Mar 2008, 08:45
Not the Aviation Traders Accountant.

sycamore
8th Mar 2008, 11:34
Gulfstream 1 ?

India Four Two
8th Mar 2008, 12:14
Based purely on the instrument in the overhead panel, which looks like a clock,is it Russian?

ozbeowulf
8th Mar 2008, 12:28
Not only the clock; that rubber-bladed fan looks like the ubiquitous Russian cockpit ventilation system.

evansb
8th Mar 2008, 15:33
Let L-610 ?

India Four Two
8th Mar 2008, 15:44
I think Brian has it.

After looking through countless Ilyushin and Tupolev photos, I finally thought about LET! A nice set of photos here:

http://www.marecek.cz/view.php?cisloclanku=2006012501

norwich
8th Mar 2008, 16:01
You just beat me, although I was thinking LET 410 ??? (just seen its been done)
Also thinking of CASA 212 aviocar ??? Keith.

Planegill
8th Mar 2008, 19:07
Yes, Bri has it again. It was the mock-up for the Let 610 airliner. Over to you.

evansb
8th Mar 2008, 21:19
Thanks, I enjoyed that! Here is the next cockpit:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP080309.jpg

norwich
8th Mar 2008, 22:55
Ummmmm, MIG 3 ????? Keith.

evansb
8th Mar 2008, 23:29
Not a MIG, not Russian.

India Four Two
9th Mar 2008, 07:46
Hmmm. Cyrillic instruments, two gun triggers. How about the Ikarus IK-2?

MReyn24050
9th Mar 2008, 12:05
The Avia B-534 perhaps?

norwich
9th Mar 2008, 12:27
Since the previous post I keep finding photos of Ikarus IK 3 and the much loved Rogozarski IK 3 derivative ?????? Keith.

evansb
9th Mar 2008, 14:20
Mel is correct.:ok: The AVIA B-534 represented the penultimate development of the biplane fighter. You have control.

MReyn24050
9th Mar 2008, 14:45
Thank you Bri. Am I correct that the aircraft in your challenge was the Avia B.534 that is in the Kbely Aviation Museum on the site of the historic military airfield Prague-Kbely in Czechoslovakia?

Here is the next challenge, I apologise for the poor condition of the image.
Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz312.jpg

Cubs2jets
9th Mar 2008, 16:21
Assuming that this is a flying boat, I venture a guess at the Shorts Mayo.

C2j

MReyn24050
9th Mar 2008, 16:45
C2j. Your assumption that this is a flying boat is correct. However it is not the Shorts Mayo.
Mel

sycamore
9th Mar 2008, 18:47
Early PBY ?

MReyn24050
9th Mar 2008, 19:25
sycamore. I see where you are coming from but this one was not an early PBY.
Mel

norwich
9th Mar 2008, 21:05
The "steering wheel" looks Boeing 314, to me, but thats been done ! Confused.com ??? Keith.

MReyn24050
9th Mar 2008, 21:22
Norwich. This is not one of Mr Boeing's aircraft.
Mel

evansb
9th Mar 2008, 23:29
Kawanishi H8K 'Emily' ?

pigboat
9th Mar 2008, 23:33
Grumman SA-16 Albatross?

MReyn24050
9th Mar 2008, 23:53
Sorry pigboat, Bri has it.:ok:. It is the Kawanishi H8K 'Emily'

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/800px-Kawanishi_H8K2_28Emily29_flyi.jpg

You have control.
Mel

evansb
10th Mar 2008, 00:38
Thanks Mel. I never could find a cockpit shot of the 'Emily'. Here is the next cockpit:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WC080309.jpg

Planegill
11th Mar 2008, 05:53
Looks like the French homebuilt LeGrand-Simon LS60

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/planegill/LS60-1.jpg

LowNSlow
11th Mar 2008, 11:01
What a neat looking little aircraft!

evansb
11th Mar 2008, 11:54
Planegill is spot on:ok::D Well done. You have control.

Planegill
11th Mar 2008, 18:15
Here is one which might have you scratching your heads a little.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/planegill/Test17.jpg

norwich
11th Mar 2008, 19:00
Morane Saulnier MS 430 / 435 ??????

evansb
12th Mar 2008, 01:22
Gill, I think I know this one. Please check your personal messages.

Kitbag
13th Mar 2008, 08:30
Early Percival Provost? The one with the fan at the front!

Planegill
13th Mar 2008, 11:03
Bri has already guessed it, but as a clue for everyone else it is an American aircraft.

aviate1138
13th Mar 2008, 11:45
A Thorp - possibly?

ozbeowulf
13th Mar 2008, 11:48
Going out on a limb here, David, but could that be Peter Garrison's original Melmoth homebuilt from the seventies?

Glenn

Planegill
13th Mar 2008, 12:28
It is not a homebuilt. It was a factory prototype.

windriver
14th Mar 2008, 09:05
Early Grumman AA5 - but with a C/C instead of a yoke?

Planegill
14th Mar 2008, 10:03
Hi Windriver - Sorry not an AA Series. Its a bit older than that.

Woods
14th Mar 2008, 10:57
P.G. Would that be the prototype Globe Swift? Lou

pigboat
14th Mar 2008, 19:45
Ryan Navion?

Dunno about the airplane, but that sho' nuff is a Narco Superhomer on the panel there. :p

Planegill
15th Mar 2008, 04:21
It is not a Swift or a Navion. A further clue, it is a jet aircraft.

Speedpig
15th Mar 2008, 14:26
Cessna T-37?

con-pilot
15th Mar 2008, 19:40
Jet Provost?

Open house if correct.

Planegill
15th Mar 2008, 20:44
Sorry, Not the T-37 or Jet Provost. This aircraft did not go into production. In fact I don't know if more than one was made. (Might have been two.)

Speedpig
15th Mar 2008, 21:29
Dale WeeJet?

Planegill
16th Mar 2008, 02:50
Speedpig has it. It is the Weejet. You have control.

Speedpig
16th Mar 2008, 06:31
Thankyou Sir,

This may not last long.


http://www.speedpig001.com/whatcockpit3.JPG

Woods
16th Mar 2008, 11:00
I'll say it again-Globe Swift? woods:confused:

Speedpig
16th Mar 2008, 12:56
Well done Woods,

Like you, I have been guessing the Globe Swift for several others and have been dying to see this one up!

You have control.

Woods
16th Mar 2008, 15:29
Speedpig-I have yet to post a picture; I'm going to give it a shot later today to see if I know how, best to an open house to keep things moving and I'll butt in when I can. Lou

norwich
16th Mar 2008, 15:38
I will stand in for "woods" with this easy one ???? Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/cockpits/cop4.jpg

stevef
16th Mar 2008, 15:40
Seems rather like a DH Heron.

Cubs2jets
16th Mar 2008, 15:43
To keep things rolling...

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/CockpitC.jpg?t=1205682101

C2j

norwich
16th Mar 2008, 16:09
stevef, heron it is ! must try finding something obscure ? Keith.

stevef
16th Mar 2008, 16:14
Worked on Herons for a while, so it leapt out at me.
Cubs2jets is in the chair while we're waiting for Woods.
Steve.

Woods
16th Mar 2008, 21:09
http://s152photobucket.com/album/s200/lohpit/th_41culverLFA265.jpgDon't know how this will work,but we've got to start somewhere.If It doesn't and anybody knows why, help is gratefully sought.
Woods

ozbeowulf
17th Mar 2008, 00:06
Looks like a Boeing biplane fighter from the '30s, perhaps the F4B-4...

Glenn

MReyn24050
17th Mar 2008, 11:05
A Curtiss F9C-2 Sparrowhawk perhaps?
Mel

Cubs2jets
17th Mar 2008, 13:46
Mel has it! Sorry I was late to confirm. This plane is in the National Museum of Naval Aviation in Pennsicola, FL. The biggest "clue" in the picture was the wing roots of the upper wings.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/AirplaneC.jpg?t=1205761529

C2j

MReyn24050
17th Mar 2008, 14:49
Thanks cubs2jets as you say the wing root was the clue, although my first thoughts were a the Gull Winged Polikarpov I-15 as used in the Spanish War or a PZL 11.
I am sure this next one will be no trouble.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz159.jpg

An updated list has been published at the "What Cockpit and Aerodrome list "thread.
Mel

stevef
17th Mar 2008, 16:40
Have you checked out the Image Posting sticky, Woods? Adding pictures can be a little confusing initially.
Steve.

norwich
17th Mar 2008, 19:15
Ummmm ????? Gotha GO 242 ?????

evansb
17th Mar 2008, 21:20
General Aircraft Monospar ST-25 Universal ?

MReyn24050
17th Mar 2008, 22:49
As Bri says the General Aircraft Monospar ST-25 Universal :ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/1023145M.jpg
You have control

evansb
18th Mar 2008, 00:29
Thanks Mel. Here is the next cockpit:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP080318.jpg

paulc
18th Mar 2008, 06:39
Antonov An24

larssnowpharter
18th Mar 2008, 08:10
Or possibly the An 8?

evansb
18th Mar 2008, 15:03
Sorry, not an Antonov product.

mustpost
18th Mar 2008, 20:03
Hi again - is it a PZL M-28 Skytruck (or something v. similar design?) :O
Antonov - ish

evansb
18th Mar 2008, 20:57
Sorry, not a PZL M-28 Skytruck, but it is somewhat similar.

norwich
18th Mar 2008, 22:00
Out on a limb again, what about IAI ARAVA ???? Keith.

evansb
18th Mar 2008, 23:00
Sorry, not the IAI Arava.

larssnowpharter
19th Mar 2008, 04:03
Even further out on a limb: Be 30/32?

evansb
19th Mar 2008, 04:26
It is indeed the Beriev Be-32, the westernized version with the PWC PT-6 turbines. You have control.:ok:

larssnowpharter
19th Mar 2008, 06:17
Here is the next challenge

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t295/larssnowpharter/challenge12.jpg

mustpost
19th Mar 2008, 09:08
Is it a Yak-38??

larssnowpharter
19th Mar 2008, 09:20
Sorry, not a Yak 38

Jimmyjimjim
19th Mar 2008, 14:34
is it a Tu-22, perhaps?

Brian Abraham
19th Mar 2008, 18:00
The knowledge you guys have amazes me, afraid I'm not so up with it, but can an outsider toss one into the mix?
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m56/babraham227/t0008.jpg

MReyn24050
19th Mar 2008, 18:22
Welcome to the thread Brian, but the procedure is that the winner of the current challenge has the honour of posting the next challenge or opens it up to the floor by declaring "open house". I would say that Jimmyjimjim was correct however rather than confuse the situation it would be better if you could withdraw your challenge until it is declared an open house.

Jimmyjimjim
19th Mar 2008, 18:37
If I was correct with the Tu-22, I'm fine with Brian taking this one!

mustpost
19th Mar 2008, 21:24
Mel
JJim appears to be absolutely correct (bs'tard chum!):ok:
At least I was in the right part of the world.....
But until larssnowpharter confirms, then.. :D.

norwich
19th Mar 2008, 22:03
Well I'm getting bored ! if that helps. Keith uuummmppphhh !

larssnowpharter
20th Mar 2008, 03:36
It certainly is the Tu 22, Jimmy. :D:D

Well I'm getting bored ! if that helps.

Sorry for the delay mate. Different time zones.:zzz: