What Cockpit? MK VI

[sabredog]

Blackburn Beverley?

[MReyn24050]

It certainly is the Blackburn Beverley :ok:. You have I control Terry.

[sabredog]

Thank you,Mel.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz164.jpg

[sycamore]

Surprised Graeme hasn`t got it....

[aviate1138]

Well I wonder if it's a Wirraway?

[Noyade]

Damn! Really?

Looked at the Wirraway...but mine's different. I wonder if the layout changed during the war?...

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4977/img211i.jpg (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/img211i.jpg/)

[aviate1138]

Here is my source.....

Woody's Gallery :: RC Wirraway :: alclar6 (http://www.scottwoodford.com/gallery/wirraway/alclar6)

I think your pic might be a Boomerang cockpit?

[sabredog]

Correct,Aviate1138.
YHC

[Noyade]

I think your pic might be a Boomerang cockpit? Could be mate. Caption says Wirraway though....

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/677/img212w.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/img212w.jpg/)

[aviate1138]

They are nearly the same aircraft aren't they?

Here was my source for the "Boomer"

Owen Zupp (http://www.owenzupp.com/_blog/Owen_Zupp/tag/1942/)

[sycamore]

It is incorrect as it`s a Boomerang cockpit ,Graeme. You can see the different shaped windscreen,and also the cowl flaps are open,which the Wirraway didnt have.The Wirraway had 2 machine guns firing over the cowling,thru` the prop, the Boomers were all in the wings....

[Noyade]

Fair enough gents. I and my caption stand (actually I'm sitting) corrected. A Boomerang it is.

Cheers. :ok:

Carry on Aviate.

[aviate1138]

Thanks Noyade

OK Sabredog, thanks, it will have to be Open House..........

[Noyade]

Well, no wirraways, wombats or wallabies connected with this one....

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4970/img207d.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/i/img207d.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Czech.
Aerobatic.

[SincoTC]

Avia B-122 ??

[Noyade]

Sorry to keep ya waiting mate. :)

Ah, lets see...Yes, yes, I'll accept that!
Caption says Avia B-322 and then in brackets...."alias B-122.45"

Captions - can ya believe them all the time?

Your control Trevor. :ok:

[SincoTC]

Thanks Graeme,

Here's the next cockpit:

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP047.jpg

[sabredog]

Aeronca 12 (AC) Chum .

[SincoTC]

Ghe ood morning Terrence,

It is indeed the Aeronca 12 (AC) Chum :D

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/aeroncaChumFull.jpg

Sabredog has control :ok:

[sabredog]

Many thanks,Trevor, and what a delightful name for an aircraft.
A very straightforward challenge;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz165.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Auster J4 I believe.

[sabredog]

Correct,Mel.
YHC

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Terry here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz74.jpg

[Noyade]

The Whirlwind Mel?

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1668/img246b.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/img246b.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

You have it Graeme. The Westland Whirlwind. :ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Westland20Whirlwind1.jpg
You have control

[Noyade]

Thanks Mel. Try this...

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2176/tesk.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/tesk.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

The Vultee XP-54 : Swoose Goose. I believe downward ejection so pilot missed the pusher prop.

[Noyade]

That's him Mel. :ok:
Your control.
Night!

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Graeme. It looked a very dodgy way to leave an aircraft. Here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz450.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Rotary wing

[Kitbag]

Hughes OH-6?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Hughes OH-6. This aircraft was not from the USA.

[evansb]

Augusta A.103 ?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Augusta A.103 but a very similar aircraft from the same neck of the woods.

[evansb]

Silvercraft SH-4 ?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry for the delay Bri. You have it the Silvercraft SH 4.:ok::D

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Silvercraft_SH-4_at_Paris_Air_Salon_1967.jpg

You have control.

[evansb]

Thanks, Mel. Here is another mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Untitled-1.jpg

[aviate1138]

One of the ugliest aircraft but interesting all the same.

The Verhees Delta?

Aircraft F-PDHV (Verhees Delta C/N 01) Photo by Jeroen Stroes (Photo ID: AC106390) (http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/106390.html)

[evansb]

aviate1138 is correct.:ok: A radical design to be sure. You have control.

[aviate1138]

Thanks, despite its appearance it seems to fly very well.

Now for something completely different......

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-08-30at153847.jpg

[sabredog]

Grumman X-29?

[sycamore]

Looks like a spin-configured F-5/Test aircraft..?

[aviate1138]

sabredog has the answer YHC

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-08-31at070306.jpg

[sabredog]

Thank you,aviate1138.
The next;

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz169.jpg

[mika33]

Maybe an Airspeed AS8 :confused:

[sabredog]

A good effort,mika33,and I can see your reasoning. But not the Airspeed as8.
Same time period though.

[MReyn24050]

Maybe an Airspeed AS8

Welcome to the thread mika33, if 16 is your age it is great to see a youngster taking an interest in these old aircraft. It certainly is a twin engined aircraft but I have a feeling this one comes from the continent of Europe.

[aviate1138]

Instruments look Germanic.......

[mika33]

Thanks guys.So I'm going back into my books:O.

I thinks that this aircraft is English because the yoke is characteristic of Avro airplane

[MReyn24050]

I thinks that this aircraft is English because the yoke is characteristic of Avro airplane Mika33 do not give up on it being a German aircraft as a number of German manufacturers also used that type of yoke on early aircraft. This is the Junkers F 13.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Ju13.jpg

[sabredog]

"Germanic", yes, but not German, although the Luftwaffe did use this aircraft.

[mika33]

Sorry:(.Ok thanks.I like talking with people older than me, because I always learnt new things.:ok:

[MReyn24050]

The aircraft I believe is from Austria the Hopfner HA11/13.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/img481ig7.jpg

[sabredog]

That is the one,Mel. Well done.
YHC.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Terry. I hope we did not frighten mika33 away. Here is the next one:-

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz451.jpg

[mika33]

Maybe a Dewoitine 338:confused:

[Agaricus bisporus]

Here's a question that's been niggling me for a long time.

Could the cadre of experts here reveal how they discover the answers to the esoteric challenges we are getting these days? When we were looking at B17s and Sopwith Camels it was all very well, we might have seen one somewhere but when it comes to an obscure Austrian amphib that I have never heard of (and I like to think I'm pretty well up on aircraft types) I begin to wonder how the heck anyone could know what it looks like in the office. Are there web resources for cockpits of forgotten aircraft that you all trawl through (I've never found one) or do you do it by analysis of canopy frames or sumpn? I mean, you cant identify an individual aircraft from an Avro-like control yoke that might also be german can you...or can you?

Any of you wheels care to spill the beans?

[VX275]

For me its one of looking at the clues. Take the challenge above, the throttles and engine instruments shout trimotor. Its a stressed metal skin construction with a smooth skin so it isn't a Junkers, Ford or Fokker (just watch it turn out to be one of these:O) which will narrow the search down a bit. Looking for a fuselage shape that fits what you can see will be part of it but for this one I feel that the main point of identification will be the windows, that asymetrical DV panel, the step between the windscreen and the side panels and is that a kidney shaped window in the roof?
Ultimately it is likely to come down to how big your archive resource is (books, magazines, photo's etc). The internet is not that great on the really exotic subjects but challenges like this will expand its knowledge.

[MReyn24050]

I totally agree with all that VX275 has said. I fortunately have a good archive resource and also have built up a good archive of internet bookmarks.

For mike33 this aircraft is not French but it is from the continent of Europe.

[evansb]

FIAT G.212 ?

[MReyn24050]

This aircraft was actualy the Fiat G.12. The G.12 was designed as a civil aircraft, but served mainly in military roles during the war. Only a limited number were built, some as late as 1944, after the Italian armistice. The G.12 inspired the postwar G.212 "Flying Classroom", the last Italian three-engine transporter.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/imagesqtbnANd9GcT54nTCDFdz_Eg1fpDiPXDZzKn1Q-SMqqVmGSw047t0zvcayYa6dgt1.jpg

There I will give it to you Bri :ok:.

You have control.

[evansb]

Thank you Mel. Here is the next mystery cockpit:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP120902.jpg

[aviate1138]

Another Italian 3 engined device?

[ozbeowulf]

Nope, that's Mika33s Dewoitine 338

[evansb]

Yes, it is another Italian 3-engine device.

[sabredog]

Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 Sparviero ?

[evansb]

Terrence is correct, again!:ok: Yes, it is indeed the "Sparrowhawk". Your turn.

[sabredog]

Many thanks,Brian.
The next;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz171.jpg

[Rosevidney1]

HP 115? OH if correct

[sabredog]

Correct.
Rosevidney1 has declared;
Open House.

[aerobelly]

OH: how about this?
P5250076 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54731504@N04/7925159692/in/photostream)

Sorry about all the surrounding page furniture, last time I posted a direct link into Flickr not everyone could see it.


Should be dead easy, but it's not in Google yet.....


'b

[oldpax]

Is this a whitley?

[aerobelly]

Not a Whitley oldpax.


'b

[Blue_2]

I'll take a punt at a Beaufort?

[aerobelly]

Not a Bristol product B2.


'b

[sabredog]

D.H. 98 Mosquito.

[aerobelly]

It's a Mosquito, specifically an FB Mk VI. Sabredog has control.


'b

[sabredog]

Thank you,ab.
Open House.

[MReyn24050]

Try this one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz452.jpg

[MReyn24050]

No takers for this continental twin?

[Cubs2jets]

It's the color of the seat coverings that has me stumped on identification...and I'm used to more than one number on each instrument...quite a puzzle.

C2j

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon Mel

this continental twin

trying to unpick this clue :)

Is it a twin from the European continent??

Is it powered by two Continental engines??

Is it a twin American aircraft with continental range??

Civil or military

[MReyn24050]

Trevor
Is it a twin from the European continent??
It was from the Europen continent

Is it powered by two Continental engines?
No, the engines were P&W

[SincoTC]

Thanks Mel,

was it civil or military ?

[MReyn24050]

It was intended for Military purposes but was not taken up..

[Noyade]

G'day Mel. A continuation of a recent SC challenge from you? The Fokker S-13? It seems to fit some of your clues.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4074/31701014.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/i/31701014.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

That is the one Graeme :ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Fokker_s13.jpg


The Fokker S.13, dubbed Universal Trainer, was meant to be trainer for multiple engine training, navigation training, paradropping training and training in radiotelephony. The prototype with registration PH-NEI made its maiden flight in 1949. The aircraft proved to be easy handling and strong. Flight testing was successful and the Dutch armed forces intended to buy the aircraft. Shortly before deciding upon procurement, the Dutch armed forces were provided with Beechcraft Model 18s under the Mutual Defense Assistance Pact (MDAP), almost for free. As other parties did not show interest in the S.13, Fokker terminated the programme. The only existing S.13 was transferred to the NIV in 1953. Years afterwards, the airframe was donated to the aerospace faculty of the TH Delft, today known as Delft University of Technology.

You have control

[Noyade]

Thanks Mel.

Not sure how accurate this is mate - but here goes....

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/5559/clueremoved.jpg (http://img812.imageshack.us/i/clueremoved.jpg/)

[sabredog]

Scottish Aviation Twin Pioneer,Flight Magazine,3rd ,April, 1959.

[Noyade]

Scottish Aviation Twin Pioneer

That's all I need Terry. Your control. :ok:

[sabredog]

Thank you,Graeme.
Open House

[evansb]

Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Untitled-2.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Are we looking at the cockpit of the aircraft that was subject of your Silhouette Challenge Bri? The Luciole MC 30.

[evansb]

Yes, Mel, you are spot on:ok: I'm always trying to lure in new posters to this thread, but I guess you'll have to do.;) Your turn.

[MReyn24050]

Thank you Bri. I understand what you say and will try not be too keen to jump in future. Perhaps this one will encourage others to try their luck:-

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz453.jpg

[aviate1138]

How about a Blackburn B2?

[MReyn24050]

You have it Aviate1138, the Blackburn B.2
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/blackburn_b2_old_warden_by_davy59-d4756l9.jpg

You have control

[aviate1138]

Thanks Mel.

Can't see this in the What Cockpit list.......

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-09-10at064837.jpg

[sabredog]

Boeing XB-52?

[aviate1138]

Sabredog - you cunning old fox...... You have control....

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-09-10at065711.jpg


PS Eight throttles in the left hand! :)

[sabredog]

Many thanks,aviate1138. I was hoping to use that one myself!
The next should not last very long;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz1772.jpg

[sycamore]

Faithfull Annie...?

[evansb]

Annie..? This is probably a British-built aircraft given the compass type and style of engine instruments.

[seacue]

WW2 British single-pilot large 'plane. Twin-engine. Bomber?

[evansb]

From the stable of Handley Page ?

[sabredog]

Not the Avro Anson,Sycamore. Nor Handley Page,Brian.
Twin engine bomber is correct though.

[evansb]

Armstrong Whitworth Whitley ?

[sabredog]

That's the one,Brian. The Armstrong Whitworth Whitley.
YHC

[evansb]

Thank you. Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP120911.jpg

[sabredog]

Bristol Brigand,Brian.
Once again, I had hoped to use that on my next challenge!
Open House.

[evansb]

Yes, the Bristol Brigand. As Terrence requested, it is OPEN HOUSE.

[MReyn24050]

Open House! Try this one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz454.jpg

[Noyade]

Nice chairs - American?

[aviate1138]

Is it a Convair 240?

[VX275]

Cunliffe-Owen Concordia?

[MReyn24050]

VX275, not the Cunliffe-Owen Concordia I am afraid.

[VX275]

It was a wild stab in the dark for an obscure British twin

[MReyn24050]

This aircraft was not built in the UK it was built on the continent of North America.

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon Mel,

Just having a quick lunch break and looking at your last clue and the possibility of a glimpse of a broad flat nose through the windscreens, I wonder if it may be the CCF Burnelli CBY-3 Loadmaster ??

[MReyn24050]

Good afternoon Trevor. No need to wonder it is the CCF Burnelli CBY-3 Loadmaster. :ok:
In 1944, the Canadian Car & Foundry built a revolutionary new aircraft in its Montreal shops - the Burnelli CBY-3, also called the Loadmaster. There were two examples built of an aerofoil-fuselage design originally developed by Vincent J. Burnelli. The CBY-3 was never to enter full-scale production and was cancelled less than one year later.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/25Loadmaster1.jpg

You have control.

[SincoTC]

Thanks Mel,

That was a good challenge!

here's the next one done in haste, but not on your list as far as I can see!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP048.jpg

[sabredog]

A Saab-17, perchance Trevor?

[SincoTC]

Good evening Terrence,

It is indeed the Saab B-17 (the B model according to my source), Well done :D

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/saab17B.jpg

sabredog has control :ok:

[sabredog]

Many thanks,Trevor.
Having some problems with Photobucket at the moment. Three attempts to resize a photograph, but all to no avail.
Thus it is;
Open House.

[sabredog]

Another attempt!
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz181-1.jpg

[aerobelly]

The "Airframe Manufacture Data" plate says it's Make "B.C. (O?) Curtiss JR", Model "C-W 1", Serial number 1. Manufactured Oct 2011.

Replica of a Cub I believe.


'b

[sabredog]

That is very good observation and decoding,Aerobelly, but not a replica Cub.

[aerobelly]

Ah yes, it seems to be a replica Curtiss-Wright CW-1 Junior, (originally Curtiss-Robertson).

As the engine is listed as a "C- 90" it seems that the CW-1's Szekely SR-3 radial engine isn't present, so I'm putting my money on a kinda-replica.


'b

[Cubs2jets]

The airfreame is not a replica. The C90 was installed as a safety precaution vs. the Szekely.

C2j

[aerobelly]

It appears you have the inside story c2j. How about telling us about it? Probably better in a new thread though.


'b

[sabredog]

Curtiss-Wright CW-1 Junior is correct. Aerobelly.
YHC

[Cubs2jets]

Had some fun today (http://www.j3-cub.com/smf/index.php?topic=7937.msg82815#msg82815)

Glenn is an acquaintence.

C2j

[evansb]

I don't think aerobelly knows the rules of this thread.

[aerobelly]

If I could find the rules I'd read and follow. But nothing useful shows up by searching Pprune, nor looking at the beginning of this thread, nor the latest list. So I've run out of logical places to look, can you give me a pointer?


'b

[evansb]

I'll make it easy. You identified the cockpit correctly, and sabredog confirmed it by giving you control (YHC means "you have control"). So you must either post a challenge cockpit (preferable) or declare an "open house" which opens the thread to anyone wishing to post a mystery cockpit. In other words, you are rewarded for getting a challenge correct by having to post a challenge. Yes, it is a bit of negative reinforcement, but posting a challenge can be fun and a bit rewarding too.

[aerobelly]

Ah, OK. Here's one I had ready yesterday evening, while waiting for confirmation that I'd got the actual aircraft right even I thought it was a replica of something else.

what_cockpit | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/54731504@N04/7989333748/)


'b

[sabredog]

AB, I gave confirmation of your correct answer in post 7633.

[MReyn24050]

aerobelly. 1920s Flying boat perhaps?

[aerobelly]

Yes, 1920s flying boat.


'b

[MReyn24050]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/7989333748_14c4f848fd-1.jpg

The forward structure looks very similar to the English Electric Kingston.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/EEKingston.jpg

Therefore I will go for either the English Electric Kingston or the Phoenix P5 Cork MkIII.

[aerobelly]

Not the Kingston or the Cork.



'b

[MReyn24050]

Not the Kingston or the Cork But it is British, how about a Felixstowe boat, the F5.

[aerobelly]

It is indeed the Felixstowe F5. In fact the one at Norfolk & Suffolk Aviation Museum.

You have control.


'b

[MReyn24050]

Great challenge thanks aerobelly. Here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz456.jpg

[MReyn24050]

No takers? It is an aircraft from the USA 1920/1930 era.

[Woods]

Bellanca Skyrocket, I believe. OH if correct'

[MReyn24050]

The aircraft in the photograph is a Bellanca Pacemaker. However, the Skyrocket was a development of the Pacemaker so Woods has it. However Open House has been declared.

[evansb]

Identify this mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP120920.jpg

[aviate1138]

Fantastic, fancy finding Ford's Flivver! :)

[evansb]

aviate1138 is correct. Well spotted:D Ford's ill received Flivver. You have control

[aviate1138]

Thanks evansb.

Cockpit sleuths at the ready........

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-09-22at062334_zps430b220e.jpg

[sabredog]

Brewster XA-32.

[aviate1138]

sabredog you are the Man, you have the knowledge and the helm. Another one bites the dust.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-09-22at062552_zps03de38dc.jpg

[sabredog]

Many thanks,aviate1138,although you have just depleted my own meagre list of potential cockpit challenges by one :ok:
The next challenge is;
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i352/mosquito633/Quiz185_zps8eb3c17a.jpg

[aviate1138]

Is it French? It has that 'look' about it.

[sabredog]

It is French,aviate1138.

[spook]

Side by side config., retractable gear, single throttle (no Mix or RPM - so jet), I think its the Sud-Ouest Triton.

[sabredog]

Correct,Spook. It is the S.O. 6000 Triton. Well done.
YHC

[aviate1138]

Not the prettiest machine..........

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-09-23at151623_zpsd30bcfe2.jpg

[spook]

Thanks SD-Open House please.

[Noyade]

Couldn't see this on Mel's list. Unfortunately not many controls to see...

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1576/img333o.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/img333o.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Looks like one of these:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/scan0002_zpsc4207c28.jpg

A Handley Page Hampden.

[Noyade]

Well done Mel. Your control. :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Graeme. Here is the next:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquz457_zpsfdab5b6d.jpg

[Cubs2jets]

WOW !! That's a large freaking ashtray in the center...must be French...

C2j

[evansb]

I have no idea, but gosh, its pretty! Mmm.. I can smell the perfume of new aircraft from here!

[aviate1138]

I can smell the Tradewinds from here.....Convair R3Y ones. Interesting machine.

[MReyn24050]

You have a good nose aviate1138 as it is the Convair R3Y Tradewinds.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/tradewind3_zpsa65e50c8.jpg
You have control.

[aviate1138]

Thanks Mel.

Having spent some time [unsuccessfully] trying to find a cockpit that is not on Mel's list I have to declare that it is Open House. :)

[Noyade]

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/2751/brokeng.jpg (http://img839.imageshack.us/i/brokeng.jpg/)

(Heading to work - cheers)

[twochai]

AV-8B, maybe?

[Noyade]

Nothing Harrier related mate, but it is British.

[aviate1138]

Long shot here [very].... is it a Handley Page HP 115?

[Heave Ho]

Short SB.1?

[Noyade]

Short SB.1That is the one mate. Your control. :ok:

The year is wrong in the caption....

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/4013/img346l.jpg (http://img94.imageshack.us/i/img346l.jpg/)

[Heave Ho]

Unusual to see a picture of it all, let alone such a clear one.

Will declare open house until I'm familiar with what has or hasn't been covered.:uhoh:

[evansb]

The list of what cockpits have been posted is on the third Sticky from the top on the Threads In The Forum Aviation History and Nostalgia page.

[evansb]

Identify the aircraft:

[MReyn24050]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/7thBirthday.jpg

It was seven years ago yesterday that Clint aka Mr_Grubby started this thread when he posted the C46 Commando cockpit photograph as the first challenge. Who would have believed it would be running 7 years later and some 1870 cockpits, give or take a few duplications?

[evansb]

...and what ever became of master challenger Cringe ?

[MReyn24050]

...and what ever became of master challenger Cringe ?

Yes, I often wonder that Bri. She was the star of the show for sometime and then just disappeared.

[Noyade]

Identify the aircraft:

Is it homemade? The "knobs/levers" at left look very.....different(?)

(Happy 7th birthday! :ok:)

[evansb]

The aircraft is in the experimental category. It can indeed be kit built. As with most amateur built aircraft, variations in cockpit layout are expected. The power controls are different in this same named aircraft:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP1209A.jpg

[aviate1138]

evansb you are a legend! :)

[evansb]

Yes aviate1138, it is indeed the speedy Legend turboprop.:ok: You have control.

[aviate1138]

Thanks eb, it has to be Open House.

A Turbine Legend - kit built - must have cost a bit?

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-10-01at230721.jpg

[SincoTC]

One to keep things rolling!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP049_zps0436eebb.jpg

[aviate1138]

Is it from Long Island?

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon aviate1138,

Is it from Long Island?

Yes, it was from Long Island :D

[SincoTC]

Good morning all,

Come on aviate1138; you must know what it is by now; even if you didn't when you asked the Long Island question, so you might as well bag it for the record even if you have to call another Open House! Although, after seeing what you said on the "Great shot" thread

My job is Motion Picture Visual Effects and Aviation related image gathering.

You should be able to scrape something up :)

[aviate1138]

Just by chance I happen to think [researching the name Chauncey] that the cockpit in question might well be the Chance[Chauncey] Vought E-7........... :)

If it is then it Open House - busy, busy....

[SincoTC]

Thanks aviate1138 :ok:

It is indeed the Vought VE-7; the military follow-on to the sole Chance Vought VE-7 Bluebird sport/trainer, their first production aircraft and the first to operate from an aircraft carrier.

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/vot-ve7_zps24779ca1.jpg

Due to pressure of work, aviate1138 has requested an Open House

[Noyade]

Another one...

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5558/img334l.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/i/img334l.jpg/)

[oldpax]

Martin mars?

[Noyade]

lands on water?

Sure does. :) But not the Mars.

[seacue]

Boeing 314?

[con-pilot]

Huges Spruce Goose?

[aviate1138]

Blohm and Voss BV-238 perhaps?

[Noyade]

Sorry gents, none of the flying-boats given on the previous page. I double checked Mel's list - I can't see it there.

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/8108/img334h.jpg (http://img825.imageshack.us/i/img334h.jpg/)

[seacue]

Blohm und Voss BV.222 Viking

[Noyade]

It's not German mate.

[aviate1138]

How about the Saunders-Roe SR-45 Princess? More hope than anything else......

[Noyade]

Hope is a good thing mate. The Princess it is. :ok:
Your control aviate.

[aviate1138]

Bit smaller than the Princess.......

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-10-07at112504.jpg

[BSD]

ME-262?

Early version?

Cheers,

BSD.

[aviate1138]

Right country

[evansb]

Horton Ho.229 ?

[aviate1138]

evansb - you have it. Well done. Yours to command.

The Horten Ho 229 V3 from the Horten Brothers [who provided Northrop with much post war Flying Wing data]

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn77/aviate1138/ScreenShot2012-10-09at071805.jpg

[evansb]

Thank you. Here is flight deck challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/HELLO_HACKER.jpg

[India Four Two]

An airship. German?

[evansb]

Yes. And yes.

[India Four Two]

Schütte-Lanz SL11, shot down by Leefe Robinson VC on 3 September 1916. It is interesting that these airships were always referred to as Zeppelins in the press.


Great challenge, bri. I initially considered Schütte-Lanz airships, but discarded that idea because of their wooden construction since I thought the gondola in your picture was aluminium/aluminum.

However, on closer examination, it looks like elegant carpentry to me. :)
I love the engine-room telegraphs.

[evansb]

India Four Two is correct.:ok: The airship bombed St. Albans, and was incorrectly referred to as a Zeppelin for two decades. You have control.

[India Four Two]

Thanks, bri. Burning the midnight oil, I see.

There is a picture of the crash site here:SL11 Airship Wreck site the morning after. | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39245032@N08/5264157239)

Extracts from the caption:
Much of the airship framework was built from wood unlike most Zeppelins which were mainly of metal construction, hence the large metal cage characteristic of most airship wrecks is absent.

All 16 of the airships' crew died in the crash at Cuffley, a small village on the outskirts of London, where in spite of objections by some civilians they were given a full military funeral, the coffins being carried by the officers and men of the Royal Flying Corps.


and a very moving picture of the funeral: SL11 Airship crew funeral. | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39245032@N08/5267124578/)


Photo inscription: "The Scene at the graveside".
Funeral of Commander Wilhelm Schramm and the 15 crew of the SL11, RFC officers and men are bearing the coffins.


I've just discovered my next cockpit has been done before, so OPEN HOUSE.

[SincoTC]

Here's an easy one to get things moving again!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP050_zpsa24dd67c.jpg

[evansb]

A Stinson Reliant V-77 or similar ?

[SincoTC]

Good evening Brian,

You're correct, it is in fact a Stinson SR-7 Reliant, well done :D

You have control :ok:

[evansb]

Thank you SincoTC. I'm having problems uploading new images to "photobucket beta", so I'll have to declare OPEN HOUSE.

[evansb]

Identify this mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/Fokker20F5020cockpit20prototype1_zpsaf90f9b2.jpg

[dixi188]

Methinks Fokker 50.

OH if correct.

[evansb]

Yes, it is a Fokker 50.. As he requested, it is OPEN HOUSE again..

[evansb]

Here I go again. Identify this cockpit: (withdrawn due zero response)

[evansb]

Clue time: Central Europe, and license built in adjacent country. Powered by radial, in-line inverted, and even a horizontally opposed engine. Wings could be folded back to facilitate hangar storage.

[evansb]

No response in 48 hrs. Challenge withdrawn.

[SincoTC]

Sorry I wasn't around to have a crack at that, it looked like a good one :)

Let's try and keep this thread on the front page!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP051.jpg

[aviate1138]

Strange lettering on the big white instrument - are we looking towards the East from here?

[SincoTC]

Morning Aviate,

Yes, look to Eastern Europe!

BTW; as you might have guessed from its condition, this is a replica and not the original.

[SincoTC]

Here's another little clue, Although the designer and manufacturer were from Eastern Europe, the aircraft's actual name was redolent of Southern Europe

[India Four Two]

Possibly Romanian?

[SincoTC]

Morning India Four Two,

Sorry, not Romanian!

[aviate1138]

Hungarian Lampich L-2 Roma perhaps?

[SincoTC]

Good morning Aviate,

No perhaps about it, it is the Lampich L-2 Roma :D

Lampich L-2 Roma (http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Kozlekedesi/4680.htm)

aviate1138 has control :ok:

[aviate1138]

Thanks Sinco TC.

Every time I find an interesting cockpit I discover it on Mel's list.

It has to be OPEN HOUSE


PS The Lampich L-2 Roma replica - did it ever fly? Just curious.

[SincoTC]

PS The Lampich L-2 Roma replica - did it ever fly? Just curious.

It certainly looks like it did, but it's in a museum now though :(

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/Lampich-L-2-ROMA-2.jpg

Every time I find an interesting cockpit I discover it on Mel's list.

Hmm, yes, I know the feeling well; but you just have to keep looking, there's quite a lot out there :)

[Karlark]

Cockpit for the open house:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii20/mudflaps_2008/2012/42-1.jpg

[Karlark]

Manufactured in Patterson, New Jersy.

[Karlark]

No guesses...

It is a New Standard D-25 cockpit:

New Standard D-25 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Standard_D-25)

Open House

[aviate1138]

Thanks Karlark, I searched high and low with no result. :)

Just taken a ride in one thanks to youtube.....turn sound down - it's just ear aching slipstream.

My Bi-Plane ride in Florida - YouTube

[MReyn24050]

Thanks for the flight aviate1138.
Here is the next one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz457.jpg

[evansb]

Tupolev Tu-70 ?

[MReyn24050]

It is indeed the Tupolev Tu-70
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/tu-70.jpg

You have control Bri.

[evansb]

Thanks Mel! A rare photo for sure. Excellent challenge. I couldn't locate any on-line photos of the Tu-70/75 cockpit, so it was a learned guess, but a guess just the same.

Here is the next challenge:

[aviate1138]

Is this an Airship? Not holding much hope.........

[MReyn24050]

Not sure it is an airship. Twin engine aircraft used for observation perhaps?

[evansb]

Wow. Way off. An airship ? Really ? I am going to remove the post. Be advised that the source of this photo has incorrectly identified the aircraft type. The civil registration of the aircraft is actually plastered on the glare panel edge. I thought that was a big enough clue.

OPEN HOUSE.

[MReyn24050]

The civil registration of the aircraft is actually plastered on the glare panel edge. I thought that was a big enough clue.

Missed that. Must admit I was more interested in the cockpit window layout and the perspex panel in the nose.

Here is a fairly easy one.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz459.jpg

[sycamore]

Possibly French,single engine piston fighter-trainer..?

[MReyn24050]

Possibly French,single engine piston fighter-trainer..?

It is possibly one or more of those.:)

[MReyn24050]

The list has been updated today up to and including 4 November 2012.
Mel