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18th Oct 2013, 18:03
The 120 had no side windows in the back I believe and we can see part of one in the pic. That was my clue.

Good catch, I had forgotten about the back side windows. Well done. :ok:

18th Oct 2013, 18:11
Many thanks... A smart looking machine.

I'm out until late, so can't put anything up until tomorrow morning (UK time).

I'll say 'open house' and will step in if there's nothing fresh tomorrow.

19th Oct 2013, 09:56
Here we go:


The GISIS is ON.

19th Oct 2013, 10:59
Early 50's British single jet? Hawker Sea Hawk?

19th Oct 2013, 12:45
Early 50's British single jet?

Edited my earlier reply, after consideration of the aircraft lineage, to say: yes.

Hawker Sea Hawk?

'fraid not...

19th Oct 2013, 19:44
Wild guess, Gloster Ace?

19th Oct 2013, 20:27
...not the Gloster Ace either, I'm afraid.

19th Oct 2013, 21:43
Supermarine Attacker ?

19th Oct 2013, 22:01
Again, sorry, no...

20th Oct 2013, 04:18
Supermarine Swift, then..

20th Oct 2013, 09:43
Supermarine Swift it is :D

An aircraft with a fascinating history Supermarine Swift - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Swift)

Here's the whole thing:


You have control...

20th Oct 2013, 17:01
Thank you. Interesting aircraft. Here is the next mystery cockpit:


Lightning Mate
21st Oct 2013, 16:47
A glider ?

21st Oct 2013, 18:50
Yes, it is a sailplane. An American design from 1937-38.

Cows getting bigger
21st Oct 2013, 21:13
After four hours of scouring Schweizer I stumbled across Ross-Stephens. Is it the RS-1?

22nd Oct 2013, 16:49
Yes, it is the Ross-Stephens :ok: Well done :D You have control.

Cows getting bigger
22nd Oct 2013, 17:43
I'm afraid it will have to be Open House.

27th Oct 2013, 14:12
Resurrecting the thread, and making sure we don't pick up on part V by accident...

The thick black lines do not obscure anything important or necessary to solving the conundrum, but do prevent GIS-cheating.

I have not (yet) tried reverse-engineering an image which GIS will find, but may do so later today if time allows. If I find it's possible, I'll try another tack.


27th Oct 2013, 20:07
I'll have a stab at a QU-22B, if I may.

27th Oct 2013, 20:19
Others here will be pleased to learn that this is definitely a manned aircraft, and is not the interesting QU-22B. Sorry.

28th Oct 2013, 19:16
Time for a clue...

This is a variant of an established design. This aircraft holds several records.

28th Oct 2013, 19:56
Because of the gauges ( pressure, quantities etc) to the right of the panel, I will try a Ag-Plane, like an Air tractor maybe.


28th Oct 2013, 21:30
Not an Air Tractor, I'm afraid... The gauges do not relate to agricultural application.

28th Oct 2013, 21:57
It's that Dick Rutan EZ-rocket - modified Long EZ ?

Gauges on right are the Lox and pressurised fuel tank I think.

28th Oct 2013, 22:14
aviate... You're spot on. Its the XCOR EZ-Rocket.

XCOR Aerospace: EZ-Rocket Main Page (http://www.xcor.com/products/vehicles/ez-rocket.html)

XCOR EZ-Rocket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XCOR_EZ-Rocket) (including a cockpit image)

Just an amazing aircraft, and breathtakingly cutting-edge, in such an understated, practical, fashion.

...1138 has control.

29th Oct 2013, 08:32
Thanks TheiC,

It will have to be Open House as I am failing dismally to find anything that hasn't already been submitted........

Onwards and upwards......

30th Oct 2013, 11:06
I am failing dismally to find anything that hasn't already been submittedI don't think it matters much these days mate.

Here's another...


30th Oct 2013, 16:39
Parasol,or biplane ..German???

30th Oct 2013, 21:19
Yes Sycamore, a parasol German - with two machine guns...

1st Nov 2013, 20:10
The cockpit belonged to the Arado Ar 76.

Open House.

3rd Nov 2013, 13:12
Can't let the thread disappear off the front page.


6th Nov 2013, 07:57
3 days without a bite? Is anybody there?

To keep this on the front page

Lightning Mate
6th Nov 2013, 08:24
Someone is here.

Lightning Mate
6th Nov 2013, 08:36
The stick is the same as that on the Titan P-51D Mustang.

Terry Dactil
6th Nov 2013, 10:39
The truly horrible panel layout reminds me of old British aircraft, but then the modern radios and iPad mount mean it must be fairly recent. :confused:

6th Nov 2013, 11:10
Lighning Mate has too much time in his hands, obviously. The Titan Mustang it is, specifically this nice looking (outside) one, G-TSIM


Over to you....

Lightning Mate
6th Nov 2013, 11:26
Lighning Mate has too much time in his hands, obviously.

That's because I am retired.

I have nothing suitable so Open House please.

Terry Dactil
7th Nov 2013, 11:35
OK. As it is Open House ...
Here is one where the instrument placards read like a book and it should be easy to work out what aircraft it is.
Larger hi-res image here (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17847496/Cockpit1.JPG)
I just love that red guarded switch.
It is for the benefit of the guy in the backseat in case he has not realized he is now alone!

Lightning Mate
7th Nov 2013, 11:53
I note the g-meter only goes to +3.

What kind of wimps' fighter is that !

Terry Dactil
7th Nov 2013, 12:27
Yeah. But it makes up for that with the reading it gets on the Machmeter :E

7th Nov 2013, 17:19
Yes, very easy, SR-71.

Terry Dactil
7th Nov 2013, 19:14
SR-71 it is. You have control con-pilot.

I thought it was a fascinating panel. You won't find many aircraft with a compressor inlet temperature guage red-lined at 430C up with the primary flight instruments, and also intake spike manual settings available for up to Mach 3.2.
Kinda narrows the field down a bit.

Although the SR-71 was famous for flying high and fast, there is a story about how to unintentionally fly it low and slow in a spectacular fashion here. (http://www.vfp62.com/SR-71_flyby.html)

India Four Two
8th Nov 2013, 05:07
At the Seattle Museum of Flight, you can sit in an SR-71 cockpit.

I was surprised how cramped it felt, even in shorts and a T-shirt. It must have been a really tight-fit wearing a pressure-suit.

India Four Two
11th Nov 2013, 14:34
Perhaps con-pilot is "on the run" ;)

In the meantime:


Note the imaginative "basic stairstep" instrument display.

Terry Dactil
13th Nov 2013, 02:25
It looks like it is the Fisher P75
with the photo cropped from this one.
What a mongrel of an aircraft!
Built by General Motors at their Fisher Car Body plant in Cleveland, around their new under-powerd Allison engine using bits from other aircraft already in production.

Wings from the P51 Mustang
later changed to wings from the P40 Warhawk
undercarriage from F4U Corsair
empennage from the Dauntless dive bomber which was later modified

Not a surprise that it was never a success in any way.
It looked rather neat though. :)

India Four Two
13th Nov 2013, 12:53

That's the one. You have control.

Terry Dactil
13th Nov 2013, 21:49
I find it interesting that British military aircraft had a standard "blind flying panel" instrument layout since the 1930's, while American military aircraft in WW2 seemed to put their instruments all over the place.

Anyway, while we wait for con-pilot to come back and claim his turn, here is a much more modern cockpit that has a few things in it that you will not find on most other aircraft.

13th Nov 2013, 22:06
B1-b Lancer?

Terry Dactil
13th Nov 2013, 22:50
Well that lasted a whole 17 minutes!
I guess 4 engines and wing sweep made it a bit obvious :{
Well done. B1-B it is. You have control.

13th Nov 2013, 23:29
Back to Open House...

14th Nov 2013, 18:28
Back to Open House...

Yes, apologies to all, should have posted open house when I answered the SR-71 photo. Thought I did, but obviously not.


28th Feb 2014, 10:45
Is there a list of which cockpits have already been done? If so, where can I find it?

5th Mar 2014, 07:12
Hi gacman

Is there a list of which cockpits have already been done? If so, where can I find it?

Threads that have passed beyond page 4 on the main page can be found by clicking on "Archive" at the RH end of the Blue Bar at the bottom of any page.

It was on page 16 :sad: but I'll bump it up to the front page again, good luck :)

6th Mar 2014, 00:09
Here is a mystery instrument panel:

India Four Two
6th Mar 2014, 03:47
Hi bri,

I'll start the ball rolling. US military, probably twin engined, three ordnance hard points, post-WWII?

6th Mar 2014, 04:42
Yes, twin-engined U.S. military, and it is immediate post-war.

India Four Two
6th Mar 2014, 05:59
The gods are smiling on me today!

There was something about the yoke that reminded me of the P-38, so I looked up "Lockheed aircraft" on Wikipedia and found:

26 P-2 Neptune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-2_Neptune) May 17, 1945 patrol bomber and anti-submarine warfare aircraft

So almost post-war ;)

Open House if correct.

6th Mar 2014, 06:48
Yes, an early version of the Lockheed P-2 Neptune. :ok:

As requested, it is OPEN HOUSE.

6th Mar 2014, 10:32
Here's an easy one....


6th Mar 2014, 21:04
Looks like Hanna Reitsch, in which case the aircraft is probably something that no-one with a well-developed will to live would like to be on the same airfield with.

Wartime German experimental then, wasn't she restricted to (setting records in!) gliders post-war?


6th Mar 2014, 21:10
Hmm...the Image Host I used has died for the moment, and the photograph is no longer visible?

Looks like Hanna Reitsch

No it wasn't Hanna and we're not in Germany.

6th Mar 2014, 21:14
Okay, trying another host...Tinypic this time...


Terry Dactil
6th Mar 2014, 21:58
It is Amelia Earhart, (ca 1930s), so the aircraft is probably American.

6th Mar 2014, 22:36
Correct on both counts Terry.......

Terry Dactil
6th Mar 2014, 23:13
Aha! You sneaky bugger with that cunning cropping. It is not an airplane, but an autogyro. Pitcairn PCA-2.

7th Mar 2014, 09:22
Well done Terry, your control. :ok:

Terry Dactil
7th Mar 2014, 11:54
OK. Try this one. About 10 years later and still looks a bit primitive, although it was an aircraft with several unusual design features.

Lightning Mate
7th Mar 2014, 15:14
Issa Bell Airacuda methinks.

OH if correct.

Terry Dactil
7th Mar 2014, 17:23
That's it.
The Bell XFM Airacuda.
Weird machine - twin engines, pusher props and a gunner in each nacelle.
Not a good place to try bailing out from, I would think!.

LM has declared open house.


7th Mar 2014, 22:57
Identify the aircraft:

India Four Two
8th Mar 2014, 11:28

That's a very odd-looking yoke. Is this an experimental or prototype aircraft?

8th Mar 2014, 11:43
German twin engined WW2...?

8th Mar 2014, 17:36
Not German. Yes, twin engine, WW.II. Not experimental, over 1,000 built.

9th Mar 2014, 15:21
Kinda looks a bit like a DH Mosquito...

Max speed in level flt: 295 kts.

Service ceiling: 30,000+..

9th Mar 2014, 15:47
Westland Whirlwind

9th Mar 2014, 15:49
Westland Whirlwind?

Edit: can't be that as only 116 built.

9th Mar 2014, 16:02
Not a Whirlwind, but certainly a similar category aircraft. She was a beauty, and fast..

9th Mar 2014, 17:20
Doesn't look like a British cockpit..it lacks the typical WWII-era "basic six".
I know I have seen that yoke before, but can't remember where.
Ki-102 perhaps? Or maybe a J1N?

9th Mar 2014, 21:10
Not British. Not the Kawasaki Ki-102, nor the Nakajima J1N..

10th Mar 2014, 06:15
Petlyakov Pe-3?

In the very unlikely event that I've fluked it, open house. :O

10th Mar 2014, 19:50
Not Russian. Clue: Milky Way.

10th Mar 2014, 22:20
Ahhh....from Yokosuka? Frances?

That's a very odd-looking yokeBelated, but I think I found it...


11th Mar 2014, 00:59
Yes !! The sleek and fast Yokosuka P1Y "Ginga" (Galaxy, or Milky Way, your choice..)

11th Mar 2014, 02:48
Thanks Brian, a lot of clues there, so thanks for that.

Another Jap.....


Terry Dactil
11th Mar 2014, 07:40
Japanese + 2 seats + open cockpits = Mitsubishi Ka-8?

11th Mar 2014, 08:09
Hello Terry. Impressive imagination mate, but sorry, nothing as rare as the Ka-8. However, mine is a Mitsubishi biplane.....

Terry Dactil
11th Mar 2014, 08:57
OK. Mitsubishi + biplane = Mitsubishi F1M2 then?
(this one looks like it has the curved rear windscreen so is a better match).

11th Mar 2014, 09:02
Very nicely done Terry, your control! :ok:

Terry Dactil
11th Mar 2014, 11:21
Thank you.
Here is the cockpit of a rather unusual design from the 1930s.
(Severely cropped so more clues can be added later if required).

11th Mar 2014, 12:00

Stipa-Caproni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stipa-Caproni)

11th Mar 2014, 12:18
If it is Terry - I'll make it Open House.

Cheers mate.

Terry Dactil
11th Mar 2014, 13:09
You got it!
Well done. I thought some clues would be required.
Although the original was demolished in 1933, there is a 3/5 replica that flew in Australia in 2001.
It would have to be in the running for the World's Ugliest Aircraft prize!
Noyade has declared Open House.

26th Mar 2014, 22:46
Identify the aircraft:

John Hill
27th Mar 2014, 06:02
G-AGPD Miles Marathon?

27th Mar 2014, 06:28
Miles Marathon is correct. Your turn.

John Hill
27th Mar 2014, 06:30
OH please as I am about to go out for a while.


27th Mar 2014, 07:15
Another Brit then....


28th Mar 2014, 22:36
From Sopwith....

28th Mar 2014, 23:41
Of the many (20+) Sopwith designs I'll plump for the Salamander

28th Mar 2014, 23:48
Hello Kitbag.

Not the Salamander - think of a name for a fish...

29th Mar 2014, 00:08
And a photo clue mate...


29th Mar 2014, 00:35
Snapper? In the unlikely event of being correct.......OH

29th Mar 2014, 00:39
Well mate, it's not unlikely - it is the Snapper. :ok:

Sopwith Snapper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopwith_Snapper)

We have Open House.


26th Apr 2015, 21:17

I am looking for pictures of the instrument panel of the UO-1 for a model. Can anyone help ?


27th Apr 2015, 17:15

aerofiles.com has some data on the UO-1.

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