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sycamore
26th Jul 2010, 12:10
Another single-piston trike from Eastern Europe/Russia ?

India Four Two
26th Jul 2010, 12:26
Sycamore, yes.

twochai
26th Jul 2010, 12:40
Hmmm... Would the sky-blue stripe across the bottom of the panel not lead to pilot disorientation if the aircraft became inverted??

India Four Two
26th Jul 2010, 13:10
Maybe, but it matches the lower part of the AH :)

India Four Two
29th Jul 2010, 15:59
First flew in the late 60's. A later variant featured prominently in the news in February 2009.

Kitbag
29th Jul 2010, 20:56
Embraer Bandeirante?

India Four Two
30th Jul 2010, 00:30
kitbag, no.

Sycamore was going in the right direction :
Another single-piston trike from Eastern Europe/Russia ?

Kitbag
30th Jul 2010, 18:23
Stupid, stupid, stupid!

I should have read the rest of the thread shouldn't I?

So having read your clues properly I'll go for the Zlin 43

India Four Two
31st Jul 2010, 02:53
Kitbag,

Second time lucky. The derivative 143 was used by the Tamil Tigers as a bomber in 2009.

You have control.

Kitbag
31st Jul 2010, 05:45
Just following my nose. Don't think this one has appeared before.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/What%20Cockpit/WCP2_6.jpg

India Four Two
3rd Aug 2010, 16:47
Kitbag, are you and I the only ones participating?

Helicopter, possibly from Bell?

Kitbag
3rd Aug 2010, 17:53
Probably, definitely, no

sycamore
3rd Aug 2010, 19:18
how about PZL W-3?

Kitbag
4th Aug 2010, 05:41
Sycamore, had to go and look that one up, rotary isn't really my area. Was surprised to find PZL now owned by Agusta Westland.

Anyway, in answer to the question, it is not the PZL W3; the subject helicopter would be somewhat lighter than the PZL design, it is now in service and in production with additional variants being developed.

sycamore
4th Aug 2010, 18:25
How about AW 109/119 or variants thereof ?

Kitbag
5th Aug 2010, 04:28
No, although in the same general class this one is very much a twin and is a younger beast than the Italian bird.

Brian Abraham
24th Aug 2010, 04:10
An interesting view of a P-51 cockpit.

St. Clair Photo-Imaging 360º Pans (http://www.stclairphoto-imaging.com/360/P51-Mustang/P51_swf.html)

sycamore
24th Aug 2010, 09:39
How about the Bell 429 ,just to keep drifting along ?

Kitbag
27th Aug 2010, 13:21
D'you know I'd nearly forgotten what the subject is! It's not a Bell, it is not an American design, but is set to be used over there. It was derived from a similar mission requirement that the Bell will fulfil.

evansb
28th Aug 2010, 15:12
American Eurocopter UH-72A Lakota ?

Kitbag
29th Aug 2010, 08:23
Evansb has it in one!

The Eurocopter UH 72 Lakota, over 340 are on order. Based upon the EC145 they are intended to replace the ubiquitous UH1.

Now, should we just let this thread die quietly?

evansb
29th Aug 2010, 08:41
Thanks Kitbag. We will see how long this one lasts, then I'll decide if I will participate further. Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP100829.jpg

sycamore
29th Aug 2010, 09:46
Looks like `Something very self-important`,large single piston,probably a trike,non retracting,from USA ?

evansb
29th Aug 2010, 16:38
Yes to trike. Yes to fixed gear. No to piston. No to USA.

sycamore
29th Aug 2010, 19:19
Is it the PAC 750 XSTOL then?

evansb
30th Aug 2010, 00:24
sycamore is spot on:ok: You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/15PAC750XLVH-EAK.jpg

sycamore
30th Aug 2010, 10:41
Thanks , OPEN HOUSE ...

norwich
30th Aug 2010, 22:46
Open house ! Well this one does not appear (I think) in Mels supurb list ... but I am sure will be so easy .... for the collected genius ... ??? Keith.

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab38/samnewsome/norwih%20general/cp03.jpg

Kitbag
31st Aug 2010, 08:31
Prewar British military by the colour, thought perhaps something like the Miles Magister, but maybe with a stalling speed of 40mph the Cierva autogyro may be more likely.


Just checked the lists:( Back to the drawing board!

sycamore
31st Aug 2010, 10:21
It`s a `Tipsy -B`...... if confirmed OPEN HOUSE..

norwich
31st Aug 2010, 18:27
Sycamore has it ! I have seen this refered to as Tipsy Trainer 1 and Tipsy and others I think ?
Sycamore has declared OPEN HOUSE .........

Keith.

sycamore
31st Aug 2010, 19:26
i did fly one about 32 years ago,but failed to log the reg....

norwich
31st Aug 2010, 19:49
This is the one in question, taken a few weeks ago at Panshanger, looks to be under restoration, maybe to fly ???? Keith.

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab38/samnewsome/pans%20rev/DSC_0348.jpg

evansb
1st Sep 2010, 16:01
Here is the next 'What Cockpit?':
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP100901-1.jpg

Kitbag
1st Sep 2010, 21:05
One of those bug eyed German designs?
FW 189?

sycamore
1st Sep 2010, 21:53
possibly a `lifting body` ,HL-10 ? Bit `tatty ` looking for such a valuable research a/c..

evansb
1st Sep 2010, 23:36
Sorry, not from Germany. Not an experimental or research aircraft either. It did, however, accomplish a couple of firsts.

Kitbag
2nd Sep 2010, 05:34
With such a basic set of instruments I don't think this is the pilots station, could it be for a bomb aimer?

Can I see 2 altimeters on the panel?

NutherA2
2nd Sep 2010, 08:49
Prone pilot Desford?

evansb
2nd Sep 2010, 14:14
Not a prone pilot aircraft. Photo is the aft cockpit of a tandem seating configuration. Series production totalled just under 150 examples.

sycamore
2nd Sep 2010, 21:59
How about an B-57 then ?

evansb
2nd Sep 2010, 23:09
Sorry, not the Martin B-57 Canberra. Getting closer though..

Noyade
2nd Sep 2010, 23:14
Martin B-47 Canberra.

Freudian slip mate? :)

The B-47?

evansb
3rd Sep 2010, 00:06
Sorry, not the Boeing B-47 Stratojet. No slip intended. Just poor typing skills.

twochai
3rd Sep 2010, 03:04
Bri: Check your PM's.

TC

Noyade
3rd Sep 2010, 06:09
North American B-45A. Sorry, I forgot you mentioned a production run of approximately 150, making the B-47 stab rather dumb. :(

evansb
3rd Sep 2010, 07:15
Noyade is correct:ok: Well done:D You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/b-452.jpg

Noyade
3rd Sep 2010, 07:34
Thanks Brian! A rarity for me. Thanks for the clues!

Couldn't find this on Mel's list so here goes...

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/584/hooray.png (http://img245.imageshack.us/i/hooray.png/)

Noyade
3rd Sep 2010, 22:30
It's Japanese.

aviate1138
4th Sep 2010, 07:03
Konnichiwa! I'll try the Mitsubishi Ki-21 (Sally)?

Noyade
4th Sep 2010, 09:22
Sorry mate, not Sally. This machine was designed for a very long flight from Tokyo to New York to celebrate the 2,600th birthday of the Japanese Empire. A newspaper sponsored the construction...

Kieron Kirk
4th Sep 2010, 10:26
Tachikawa Ki-77.

Ciarain.

Noyade
4th Sep 2010, 10:51
Tachikawa Ki-77.

:ok: Your control KK!

Kieron Kirk
4th Sep 2010, 10:52
It will have to be open house as I do not have anything to post.

Ciarain.

evansb
4th Sep 2010, 21:40
Here is the next "What Cockpit?":
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP100904.jpg

sycamore
4th Sep 2010, 22:42
I`ll go with an A-6 variant,EA6 or something,as a starter, for country ,type...,

evansb
4th Sep 2010, 23:30
Sorry, not U.S. made.

samusi01
5th Sep 2010, 02:22
KA-52


need some more characters...

evansb
5th Sep 2010, 05:54
samusi01 is correct.:ok: The Kamov KA-52. Your turn to post a challenge.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/az_ka-52_31.jpg

samusi01
5th Sep 2010, 20:22
I'm sorry, I'd be hard pressed to come up with anything remotely challenging. Open field here...

Kitbag
5th Sep 2010, 22:15
Try this one:
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/What%20Cockpit/wcp29.jpg

Cubs2jets
6th Sep 2010, 00:32
French?

C2j

aviate1138
6th Sep 2010, 06:53
Could it be a Supermarine 508/529?

sycamore
6th Sep 2010, 10:18
Could be a Saab J-29 ?

Ali Qadoo
6th Sep 2010, 10:20
F-101 Voodoo?

Kitbag
6th Sep 2010, 10:47
You're all in roughly the right time frame, but this is mainland European, and operated by a number of nations.

Ali Qadoo
6th Sep 2010, 11:19
Fiat G-91?

Kitbag
6th Sep 2010, 13:21
Spot on Ali Qadoo, an aircraft I've always found pretty. It won the NATO Lightweight Strike Fighter competition of 1953, meeting some pretty stringent demands in the process, used by Germany, Greece, Italy and Portugal over 700 built. A further development was replacing the single Orpheus turbo jet with a pair of GE J85 reheated engines in a slightly refined airframe.

Just out of interest, does anybody else know of a similar in service evolution i.e. jet single to twin engine design?

Ali Qadoo
6th Sep 2010, 13:46
Away from home, armed only with my trusty laptop. Open house.

Fitter2
6th Sep 2010, 21:41
This isn't on the list, something completely different.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2zg50y9.jpg

asw28-866
7th Sep 2010, 05:17
Not perchance the Currie Wot?

'866'

Fitter2
7th Sep 2010, 06:55
Wot? What? Not a bad guess, but no.

Fitter2
7th Sep 2010, 19:32
Over 12hrs without a bite? Just to be helpful, ASW28-866 was in the right part of the world and the correct wing count.

Kitbag
7th Sep 2010, 19:58
Mate, you can go days without a bite (check out the Lakota posts #4511-4521):p

Anyway, I'll go for Spartan Three Seater

asw28-866
7th Sep 2010, 23:00
Alright I'll go again...Isaac's fury?\

'866'

Fitter2
8th Sep 2010, 07:01
Kitbag - 2 seats too many.

ASW28 - not the mini-Fury (although there was one parked only 50 yards from the mystery cockpit).

asw28-866
10th Sep 2010, 03:59
Complete guess now....a 'Ragwing'?

'866'

Fitter2
10th Sep 2010, 06:59
I didnt know there was a specific type called 'Ragwing'. I must look it up.

Anyway, no.

There are 25 of the challenge type on the CAA register, so it isn't exceedingly uncommon.

evansb
10th Sep 2010, 18:32
Mignet pou-du-ciel ?

VX275
10th Sep 2010, 18:48
FRED says poo to the Flea.

Fitter2
10th Sep 2010, 19:53
I suppose, Bri, you may have been misled by 'the right number of wings'. And I'm 99% sure, although I haven't looked, that there aren't 25 Mignet Fleas on the G-INFO register.

There are, however 25 FREDs, including this one
http://i53.tinypic.com/vyrsqf.jpg
so I guess VX275 has control

Kitbag
10th Sep 2010, 23:11
I feel I have to call foul on this.

How can the right number of wings in relation to a biplane (Currie Wot) suddenly become a parasol monoplane?


Answers on a post card

aviate1138
11th Sep 2010, 05:24
This postcard says it looks like a biplane that has lost a pair of wings......:rolleyes:

Fitter2
11th Sep 2010, 06:46
Mea culpa

I took so many pics at Sywell last weekend I mixed up my aircraft and panels, and only realised my error after posting the pic of G-ORAS.

The panel was indeed FRED, and profuse apologies for misleading the experts.

Hangs head in shame.

I hope VX can do better...........

VX275
11th Sep 2010, 14:01
Sorry guys I've never managed the trick of posting photos here so OPEN HOUSE.

PM me if you feel you could help as I do have a few cockpits to offer.

Fitter2
11th Sep 2010, 14:32
VX275 - check your PMs.

Fitter2
16th Sep 2010, 21:50
Since VX appears to have gone into hiding, does that make it open house?

evansb
17th Sep 2010, 01:07
Given that nearly a week has gone by, I would say YES.

DIBO
19th Sep 2010, 08:36
I'll give it a try with this one :
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab142/DIBOYOU/PPRune/HPIM0175.jpg
(had to remove some sensitive info)

DIBO
19th Sep 2010, 09:48
A lot of levers blondie has to concentrate on...
And wait untill I'll post her picture, it was a breathtaking flight in more than one way
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab142/DIBOYOU/PPRune/HPIM0220.jpg

sycamore
19th Sep 2010, 10:19
Must be a `Zeppelin` of some sort ...

DIBO
19th Sep 2010, 12:14
well Sycamore, the 'lighter than air' clue might be in the right direction, judging from this picture :

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab142/DIBOYOU/ATCBox/HPIM0210.jpg

but with all these clues, the winning answer must be pretty specific

DIBO
19th Sep 2010, 14:32
to soothe the pain of all your brain crunching to find the correct answer...
aaaaaaahhh,
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab142/DIBOYOU/ATCBox/HPIM0229-1.jpg

sycamore
19th Sep 2010, 16:11
How about an ATG AT-10 ?

DIBO
19th Sep 2010, 16:26
Nope
Not an AT-10, look closer at the EFIS-EICAS, that will tell you why it can't be the AT-10 ;)

evansb
19th Sep 2010, 17:57
ZLT Zeppelin LZ N07-100 ?

DIBO
19th Sep 2010, 18:46
spot on
another last aaaahhhh moment
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab142/DIBOYOU/ATCBox/HPIM0183.jpg

DIBO
19th Sep 2010, 19:17
evansb, :ok:
Open house

evansb
20th Sep 2010, 02:42
Thanks DIBO. Lovely photos. Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP100919.jpg

sycamore
20th Sep 2010, 09:45
Must be a Kamov Ka -26...if so ,Open House..

evansb
20th Sep 2010, 14:55
sycamore is correct:ok:.

one11
21st Sep 2010, 11:58
Not been on this thread for a while but this sems not to have featured before



http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu98/viscount700/prune2009-1.jpg

Agaricus bisporus
21st Sep 2010, 13:56
It's a BA Swallow.

Open House, I've got no photos to post.

one11
21st Sep 2010, 15:25
Confirmed - BA Swallow

Fitter2
22nd Sep 2010, 18:20
Another bit of fun. Any hints will be double checked for accuracy.......


http://i52.tinypic.com/2yn2hw4.jpg

Mechta
22nd Sep 2010, 20:15
Colomban MC-30 Luciole?

Fitter2
23rd Sep 2010, 12:31
Helo Mechta

you must have been at Sywell LAA rally too.

Over to you.

Mechta
23rd Sep 2010, 12:53
Hello Fitter2,

No, I wasn't at Sywell, but I have been fascinated by the Luciole from the moment the first news of it filtered across from France around 2006. To be able to power an aeroplane with a small four stroke industrial engine seemed like the answer to a homebuilder's dream.

As soon as I saw that V-twin (Briggs & Stratton Vanguard or Honda), both have been used), I was pretty sure it was the Luciole. There is also the Czech SD-1 with the same engines, so I did need to do a search first.

Here's the next one:

http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz96/s4racergp/cockpit2guess220910.jpg

sycamore
23rd Sep 2010, 13:26
The NA X-15 ?

Mechta
23rd Sep 2010, 14:47
Hi Sycamore, Well done!! North American X-15
http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz96/s4racergp/X-15_in_flight.jpg

Over to you!

sycamore
23rd Sep 2010, 15:15
Open House....

Mr_Grubby
28th Sep 2010, 10:03
Five years ago today I started this thread.
Never thought it would last this long !!

Clint.:ok:

norwich
28th Sep 2010, 19:52
Mr Grubby. Thank you for starting this ! Please allow me to kick start the sixth year with this little photo ? it does not appear in Mels supurb listing, and I assume will not linger too long ??

Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/cp01.jpg

asw28-866
29th Sep 2010, 00:44
One of Mr Vans? RV8?

ozbeowulf
29th Sep 2010, 02:58
I don't know what aircraft it is; but I love the warning decal above the artificial horizon...

Glenn

norwich
29th Sep 2010, 06:51
Sorry not a Vans type ? Yes I like that advice sticker too ?

Keith.

Fitter2
29th Sep 2010, 07:17
LH-10 Ellipse?

Edited to say, no, it can't be. How about a Rutan Long-Eze?

norwich
29th Sep 2010, 18:16
Fitter2. Not a Rutan design either ?? But is closely related to the Long-EZ ?? just added this bit to ease any confusion ??

Keith.

norwich
30th Sep 2010, 20:21
Well, after 1200 views and a couple of very well educated attempts, time for a small clueette ? This particular aircraft is based at my local airport .... Norwich (EGSH) (NWI) ... and actually landed in front of my eyes this afternoon ! propelled by its pusher propeller, with its winglets glistening in the late sun ?

Keith.

Kitbag
30th Sep 2010, 20:52
Looks like a cozy arrangement in there

Fitter2
1st Oct 2010, 21:16
Hello Norwich

Was Kitbag's subtle offering right or wrong? If wrong, another cluette maybe in order, but my assumption is that a pusher canard is pictured.

norwich
1st Oct 2010, 21:35
Aha ! Mmmm .... I have been looking at Kitbags criptic question ?? and am finding it difficult to find a link ?? maybe just my limited knowledge ??

Fitter2 ... yes pusher and carnard are in there ... two seater ... one in front ... one behind ?? not the best of safety record ... and as of 1 second ago I have looked at G-INFO and, to my amazement !, found this to be the only UK based example of this aircraft ??

Keith.

Fitter2
2nd Oct 2010, 06:36
Hi Kitbag

probably not a Cozy then, although there is only one Cozy Classic on G-INFO.

Further investigation necessary.

Kitbag
2nd Oct 2010, 08:27
Stabbing very wildly- Berkut 360?

norwich
2nd Oct 2010, 17:44
Kitbag, Stabbing very wildly pays of sometimes !! Spot on ...
The floor is yours :D

Photo taken a few days ago ... Keith.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii58/keithnewsome/DSC_0090-1.jpg

Kitbag
4th Oct 2010, 07:29
B@gger!

It was such a wild stab based on descriprtion I didn't bother to look again til this morning, apologies if someone with a real puzzler is waiting in the wings, the floor is all yours.

Open House

evansb
4th Oct 2010, 15:50
Here is one to keep this thread alive:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP101004.jpg

stevef
4th Oct 2010, 18:56
Douglas DC2 by the look of the yokes and pedestal.

evansb
4th Oct 2010, 19:28
Yes, stevef, it is a KLM DC-2. Note the compass. You have control.

stevef
4th Oct 2010, 21:40
Can't be many cockpit pictures not covered now!
I don't think this one's come up before:
Easy one, though.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r291/stevef_2007/WCquiz1.jpg

sycamore
4th Oct 2010, 22:12
CASA 1-11 or He 1-11 in old money ,with a British twist..

stevef
5th Oct 2010, 06:35
Neither of those, I'm afraid, Sycamore.

evansb
6th Oct 2010, 07:07
Siebel Si-204 ?
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/siebel-si-204-liaison-french-1947-01.png

stevef
6th Oct 2010, 19:02
Bri has it. :ok:
Over to you.

evansb
6th Oct 2010, 23:33
Thanks Steve! Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP101006.png

evansb
8th Oct 2010, 06:01
Clue: When carrying the mail, one of these ships was known as ZEPHIR.

India Four Two
8th Oct 2010, 07:12
All four were "Aeolus," "Zephir," "Pampero" and "Zyklon"?

Do 18 diesel flying boat. Nice Popular Mechanics link here:

Popular Mechanics - Google Books (http://is.gd/fQUmo)


I didn't realize the engine had a dual-crankshaft with opposed pistons in the same cylinder.

Open house if correct.

evansb
8th Oct 2010, 14:34
India Four Two is correct.:ok:

Best regards,

Bri

Kitbag
13th Oct 2010, 20:35
Inspired by another thread, hope this gets people thinking:
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/What%20Cockpit/WCP1012.jpg

Fitter2
13th Oct 2010, 21:18
I'm guessing the cockpit shown is in Nevada, and the rest of the airframe is on a Predator in the 'stan.

Kitbag
14th Oct 2010, 03:27
Fitter 2

Your guesses are wrong, but the type is correct. Look at the uniform, not the usual flight suit that the military drivers seem to wear. The normal area of Ops for this aircraft is a lot closer to the operators home address.

Anyway I guess the floor is yours

Fitter2
14th Oct 2010, 16:03
Thanks, Kitbag

Nothing to hand, so open house, and I won't feel guilty about jumping in a future open house.

F2

evansb
15th Oct 2010, 18:00
To keep this thread alive, I volunteer this example:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP101015-1.jpg

Fitter2
15th Oct 2010, 18:48
Looks rather like the latest iteration of the Scheibe Falke, but as a previous version has appeared on the list, I guess not.

evansb
15th Oct 2010, 19:35
It is a Scheibe, but not the SF 24B, which is on the list.

Fitter2
16th Oct 2010, 08:22
I was thinking of the 25-C Rotax Falke, (a further development of the Slingsby T-61, a licence built SF25B.)

evansb
16th Oct 2010, 16:53
Here is the mystery aircraft, a 1970 Scheibe SF 25B Falke:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/50mp01hb23645ak1.jpg

OPEN HOUSE

Fitter2
16th Oct 2010, 17:31
I thought it looked Falkish. (The stick and spoiler controls are a bit of a givaway, although panel/avionics vary enormously).

To keep the pot boiling, one which shouldn't last long:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2itogtd.jpg

Fitter2
18th Oct 2010, 07:23
Just to bring the thread back up the list, the aircraft is on the G- register (as you would expect from the cockpit labels), and has a current Airworthiness certificate.

evansb
19th Oct 2010, 06:15
Fisher Tiger Moth R80 ?

Fitter2
19th Oct 2010, 06:48
Definitely yhe right number of wings (I double checked this time).

However, not an R80 Moth.

Fitter2
20th Oct 2010, 08:55
The type first flew in 1963, but this example was built and flown within the last 15 years.

Fitter2
22nd Oct 2010, 11:08
And (just to bring it back up the page) there are 15 of the type on the G- register.

asw28-866
23rd Oct 2010, 18:55
Mr Issac's Fury?

866

Fitter2
23rd Oct 2010, 21:39
Isaac's Fury indeed. This one:

http://i53.tinypic.com/r9g4yr.jpg

Actually G-BWWN but they look much more 'authentic' in mid-war livery.

Over to you..........

evansb
28th Oct 2010, 22:37
Before October ends, here is another mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP101028.jpg

Harley Quinn
29th Oct 2010, 05:42
Guessing Scandinavian design

ASJA Viking?

evansb
29th Oct 2010, 12:23
Sorry not a Viking. Not from Scandinavia, but it is a taildragger.

evansb
30th Oct 2010, 10:51
Another clue:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP101028A.jpg

sycamore
30th Oct 2010, 10:53
A Hornet Moth ,perhaps ?

evansb
30th Oct 2010, 12:35
sycamore is spot on:ok: The de Havilland Hornet Moth. You have control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/gvfw-06-0711.jpg

sycamore
30th Oct 2010, 15:28
Open House...

Noyade
30th Oct 2010, 23:59
Open House... http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8826/whynot3101452.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/whynot3101452.jpg/)

aviate1138
31st Oct 2010, 06:42
A wild stab. Junkers Ju 290 perhaps?

Noyade
31st Oct 2010, 21:22
Good stab mate! But no vital organs. Not a Junkers but it is a German.

sycamore
31st Oct 2010, 21:45
Fw 200 Condor,Civil..

Noyade
31st Oct 2010, 21:53
Fw 200 Condor,Civil..

You're on a roll mate! :ok:

Your thread.

sycamore
31st Oct 2010, 21:55
Open House...

Noyade
1st Nov 2010, 10:35
You can just make out two prop blades through the cockpit window...

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/847/prope.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/prope.jpg/)

sycamore
1st Nov 2010, 10:44
Must be a Tri-Dak ?

Noyade
1st Nov 2010, 10:46
God that was quick! :ok:

sycamore
1st Nov 2010, 10:50
OPEN HOUSE ..again...

Noyade
1st Nov 2010, 11:05
OPEN HOUSE ..again...Got another tri-motor for ya mate...

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1068/trimotor9358062.jpg (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/trimotor9358062.jpg/)

sycamore
1st Nov 2010, 11:24
Lots of corrugations, a Junkers perhaps ?

Noyade
1st Nov 2010, 11:30
Not a Junker's mate.

Just out of interest, how do you go about solving these things?

If the situation was reversed, I wouldn't have the faintest idea.

Agaricus bisporus
1st Nov 2010, 13:31
Le Wibault-Penhoet 283 peut-etre?

Noyade
1st Nov 2010, 20:44
Not a Wibault, but you're in the right country. Only one built. The company responsible built a lot of fighters including a very well known one in WWII. The designation is a hundred more than this fighter.....

skytrain10
1st Nov 2010, 20:55
First time on this forum - Dewoitine D-620 possibly?
(= D520+100!)

Noyade
1st Nov 2010, 21:03
Ken?! As if by magic, how did you get over here?

Dewoitine D-620 :ok:

Your control!

dixi188
1st Nov 2010, 21:05
After the hints I think it might be the Dewoitine D 620.

Open house if correct.

Thanks for the thread, most of it is far too obscure for me though.

skytrain10
1st Nov 2010, 21:06
As if by magic, how did you get over here?

Multi tasking mate :)

Besides which you have duties elsewhere!

Have to be Open House as nothing prepared.

skytrain10
2nd Nov 2010, 14:39
Well as there are no takers here is my first image for this forum:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/Silhouette%20Challenge/de95efba.jpg

sycamore
2nd Nov 2010, 15:21
A-4 Skyhawk ?

skytrain10
2nd Nov 2010, 15:35
Well done sycamore, it is indeed the A-4 Skyhawk - the A-4M to be precise :ok:

All yours.

sycamore
2nd Nov 2010, 15:43
Got nuthin`, OPEN HOUSE...

SloppyJoe
2nd Nov 2010, 15:53
http://www.flight-manuals-on-cd.com/March2009.JPG

sycamore
3rd Nov 2010, 13:47
Is it a `dockyard` job from Belfast ?

SloppyJoe
3rd Nov 2010, 14:06
Nope. Wrong continent. Only two still flying in Europe as far as I know.

SloppyJoe
3rd Nov 2010, 16:48
Not from North America either although the US customs service used to have some, should be easy to get now.

skytrain10
3rd Nov 2010, 17:00
GAF Nomad I think?

SloppyJoe
3rd Nov 2010, 17:03
Yeap thats what it is, over to you.

skytrain10
3rd Nov 2010, 17:24
Thanks SloppyJoe. Here's one to consider:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/Silhouette%20Challenge/52b784d5.jpg

sycamore
3rd Nov 2010, 19:23
Does`nt look too sopisticated,so we`ll start with F9F Cougar,fo single engined from USA....

skytrain10
3rd Nov 2010, 19:29
Hi sycamore. It is single engined, but not from the US. Newer than the Cougar.

sycamore
3rd Nov 2010, 19:44
Not enough pixels,so it maybe a bit of a `Mystery` ship ,from the other side of the `ditch`....

skytrain10
3rd Nov 2010, 20:23
Assuming I'm following your thinking correctly you would be in the right part of the world :)

sycamore
3rd Nov 2010, 20:45
Okay,Mystere IV,or possibly Super Mystere..

skytrain10
3rd Nov 2010, 21:05
Thats what I thought you were thinking :).
You're very close but not the Mystere/Super Mystere.

sycamore
3rd Nov 2010, 21:25
This screen is so bright ,Imust be seeing a `Mirage` then,an early one...

skytrain10
3rd Nov 2010, 21:58
Imust be seeing a `Mirage` then,an early one...
And the model is......?

Noyade
3rd Nov 2010, 22:00
MD-550...Mirage1...?

sycamore
3rd Nov 2010, 22:19
I`d say ,based on the fact it`s only got `un moteur`,then it`s probably a IIIA,`as the earlier protos were bi-moteurs..and it`s in a museum,I guess...

If so ,Ouvrez les portes`...

skytrain10
3rd Nov 2010, 22:30
Sorry Noyade, not a Mirage I

But it is a Mirage III sycamore. Well done:ok:

sycamore has declared Open House

Noyade
3rd Nov 2010, 22:42
It' hard to find one not on Mel's list...

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8840/anothergo4047858.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/i/anothergo4047858.jpg/)

skytrain10
3rd Nov 2010, 23:41
Is that an Air France C-47 out the window? And if so does that mean its French?

twochai
4th Nov 2010, 01:06
My guess it is French, because this cockpit is laid out with 'Commandant' on the left, with Mechanicien de vol/Pilot's Assistant on the right, it seems. This was a very common arrangement, at least on former/still 'Colonial routes', right through the sixties and perhaps later.

I remember riding frequently on Air Ivoire, as a passenger, out of Abidjan to Bouake on single pilot operated DC-3's on domestic flights in 1965. Seemed a perfectly practical arrangement, in fact.

Hmmmm.... thinks: Don't anyone tell O'Leary!!

Noyade
4th Nov 2010, 05:13
Not French.

aviate1138
4th Nov 2010, 07:34
A Fokker T IX perhaps? - not holding breath........

Noyade
4th Nov 2010, 09:18
Not a bomber mate. An airliner. Here's the layout...

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1439/cabinh.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/cabinh.jpg/)

GAZIN
4th Nov 2010, 11:28
"Not French". Swedish perhaps?:)

sycamore
4th Nov 2010, 11:53
Airspeed Ambassador, peut-etre ?

MReyn24050
4th Nov 2010, 12:12
SAAB 90 Scandia perhaps

Noyade
4th Nov 2010, 21:24
SAAB 90 Scandia perhapsYah! Sveedeesh!

Your control Mel! :ok::)

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/2894/saabscandia90thumbnail.jpg (http://img607.imageshack.us/i/saabscandia90thumbnail.jpg/)

MReyn24050
4th Nov 2010, 22:18
Thanks Graeme.
I was surprised that one has not been posted before. Great challenge :ok:
Here is the next one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz359.jpg

Noyade
5th Nov 2010, 10:45
An Axis (German?) fighter of WWII? Sorry mate, it's all I've got. :(

MReyn24050
5th Nov 2010, 12:22
A fighter but not from the Axis.
Mel

sycamore
5th Nov 2010, 13:21
Russian, Yak,or possibly French Dewoitine ?

MReyn24050
5th Nov 2010, 14:28
Sycamore you are getting there but this one is not French.

sycamore
5th Nov 2010, 16:36
Yak-3,original,not `new-build`..

edit; Belay my last; it`s a MiG -3,trim wheels on right...
OH if correct..

MReyn24050
5th Nov 2010, 17:47
This one is not the MiG 3 you are close with the Yak 3.

sycamore
5th Nov 2010, 19:11
I`ll go with Yak-1m

MReyn24050
5th Nov 2010, 19:33
According to my source this aircraft was later.

sycamore
5th Nov 2010, 23:11
Must be a -7/9 then....

MReyn24050
5th Nov 2010, 23:44
That is the one sycamore, the Yak 9
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Yak9.jpg
Is it still Open House?

sycamore
6th Nov 2010, 11:19
Open House

Noyade
6th Nov 2010, 22:45
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8965/frontxyq.jpg (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/frontxyq.jpg/)

MReyn24050
7th Nov 2010, 00:16
Graeme
Nakajima C6N Saiun perhaps?
Mel

Noyade
7th Nov 2010, 00:29
Nakajima C6N Saiun

It is mate! :ok:

Your control Mel.

MReyn24050
7th Nov 2010, 00:33
Thanks Graeme
Here is a nice easy one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz361.jpg
Mel

sycamore
9th Nov 2010, 13:08
Some kind of autogiro ?
weird control layout,possibly German ,or Russian ?

MReyn24050
9th Nov 2010, 15:02
Not an Autogyro. It is German.
Mel

evansb
9th Nov 2010, 18:21
AGO Ao-192 ?

MReyn24050
9th Nov 2010, 20:05
Not the AGO A0-192, Bri.

Noyade
9th Nov 2010, 21:45
Then the Lord looked down and took pity on the poor pathetic soul in a lonely part of the planet and whispered the answer.

Then the dimwit smiled and typed as fast as he could...

The Arado Ar 79.

MReyn24050
9th Nov 2010, 23:07
Graeme.
I am not sure that is allowed, getting answers from such a high authority. Well he was correct it is indeed an Arado Ar 79 :ok:.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/arado_ar79.jpg
You have control.

Noyade
10th Nov 2010, 07:50
Thanks Mel. Possibly just voices in my head because I missed today's medication, but I'm sure I heard "She's an Arado cobber! :ok:"....:ooh:

Couldn't find this on your list mate.....

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3080/andagain2733693.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/andagain2733693.jpg/)

Noyade
10th Nov 2010, 19:11
Need a clue comrades? :)

evansb
10th Nov 2010, 22:48
Beriev MPR-2 ?

Noyade
11th Nov 2010, 08:07
Russian but not from Beriev mate.

Noyade
11th Nov 2010, 22:11
Caption says this is the same aircraft cockpit...but there are differences...?

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1623/cockpitce.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/cockpitce.jpg/)

evansb
11th Nov 2010, 22:46
Tupolev ANT-6/Tb-3 ?

Noyade
12th Nov 2010, 04:56
Tupolev ANT-6/Tb-3 That's the one mate! :ok: Your control.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1378/aero59g1.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/aero59g1.jpg/)

evansb
12th Nov 2010, 07:33
Thanks. I'll be back at approx. 1600Z, otherwise it is open house for those who can't wait!

MReyn24050
12th Nov 2010, 12:54
Geame. Something does not seem to tie up. The following photograph was taken from a Tupolev ANT6/TB-3, which ties up with your earlier cutaway drawing.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/3.jpg
You say that the challenge photograph is identified as the ANT6/TB-3 I would love to know what version. Looking at the photograph it looks as though the cockpit is located off centre also there is no sign of the corrugated skin as shown in the photograph above. Interesting.

evansb
12th Nov 2010, 16:00
Yes, I agree. The clue drawing is an ANT-6, but the original photo is perhaps a version of an ANT-4. I am presently searching for a cockpit photo of an ANT-4, ANT-7, and ANT-21.

I note that the ANT-4/7 versions, the R-6 and PS-7 had off-centre single-seat cockpits, but I can't be certain of the MP-6 configuration.

evansb
12th Nov 2010, 16:15
In the meantime, here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP101112.jpg

con-pilot
12th Nov 2010, 16:34
Well, it kind of looks like a Falcon 50. Believe it or not, we've not had the Falcon 50 according to the list.

But something just does not look right for a 50. Unless a very early serial number.

Could be a straight Falcon 900, haven't had that one either.

It's the speed brake handle that's throwing me off.

evansb
12th Nov 2010, 17:00
Sorry, not the Falcon 50, nor the Falcon 900. Perhaps we had the Falcon 50 recently but the list hasn't reflected it.

con-pilot
12th Nov 2010, 17:45
Sorry, not the Falcon 50, nor the Falcon 900

Not surprised, there are only five types of three engine jet aircraft* in the US and I've flown three of them. The cockpit looks too small for the DC-10/MD-11 or the L-1011.

So, I'm still scratching my head. When it is reveled, I'll probably hit myself.


* I included Dassault in that number.

Oh, and DUH! The cockpit in the picture shows three thrust reversers. Okay, just how dumb am I?



mumble, mumble, mumble, mumble.........................

innuendo
12th Nov 2010, 17:58
That sure looks like the L-1011, (-500), to me, especially the speed brakes and gear lever/switch and the two autopilot engage switches, but I don't see the FMS panels.
I looked at the list of previous flight decks and can't find the L-1011 listed so I have to go with some version of the Tristar.

If correct, I have to go open house as I am away and have no access to post anything.