What Cockpit? MK VI

[sycamore]

OKAY,let`s say pulse-jet powered ..?

[MReyn24050]

Not pulse-jet powered but used standard engines for their time.

[Sepp]

Fw187 Falke. (?)

[sycamore]

Is this a co-pilot /bombardiers position,as I see no engine instruments/throttles etc ?

[Sepp]

The Falke had a very slim fuselage; the engine instruments were mounted on nacelles.

[MReyn24050]

Sepp has it.
It is indeed the Focke Wulf Fw 187 Falke.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/fw-187.jpg

You have control.

[Sepp]

I have to say - that was a good one. :D Its good to see the Falke getting some rare time in the limelight. :ok:

I'm off on hols for a bit and may not be able to check in here so, open house!

[MReyn24050]

as you indicate Sepp the Falke was an interesting aircraft.
To keep the thread going here is another cockpit:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz371.jpg
Mel

[Cubs2jets]

Certainly not a Fokker F-VII as that has been done before (twice).

C2j

[MReyn24050]

Your right Cubs2jets this is not the Fokker F-VII, in fact is not from Fokker at all.

[MReyn24050]

Nearly 500 views only one taker. Time for a clue this aircraft was single engine and European.

[evansb]

Heinkel He-57 Heron ?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Heinkel He-57 Heron Bri. This one was a landplane and first flew a couple of years earlier than the He-57.

[evansb]

Focke-Wulf A20 Habicht ?

[MReyn24050]

Not the Focke-Wulf A20 Habicht, Bri. But similar and from the same country.

[larssnowpharter]

One is thinking one of Willy's designs. Perhaps the M18 or M 20?

[MReyn24050]

Not one of Willy Messerschmitt designs I am sorry.

[evansb]

Dornier Do K1 ?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry for the delay. Not a Dornier Bri.

[aviate1138]

How about a Gotha P-60A? Oooops not that design!

I will add a BV 141

[MReyn24050]

Sorry aviate1138, not a Gotha nor a Blohm & Voss aircraft. This aircraft first flew 1927.

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon Mel,

I had the Arado V I on my list of suspects last evening whilst whiling away time monitoring my SC challenge, however, I couldn't find any cockpit views and thought that Brian had prbably got it, so I stopped looking.

It does seem to fit the year as well as other characteristics!

Open House please if correct as I don't have anything prepared.

[MReyn24050]

TC you have it. It is indeed the cockpit of the Arado V1. First flight in 1927, It took part in exhibition in The ILA-Berlin 1928. Delivered to Lufthansa to in the Autumn of 1929. During the return flight from Tenerife it crashed outside Berlin on the 19th of December 1929. Lufthansa lost interest in the aircraft and the second prototype (V.1a c / n 55) was scrapped without being completed.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/AradoV1-1.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/AradoV1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/AradoV1Instruments.jpg

AS TC says Open House

[SincoTC]

As I said Open House over a day ago and there's been no takers. I've had a chance to sort one out, so try this one, should be fairly easy!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP001.jpg

[seb16trs]

hello, I'd bend towards one the small ekranoplans (see specific artificial horizon)...

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3130/bisc.jpg

[SincoTC]

Hello seb16trs and welcome!

You're bending it the right direction, but I need the name! :)

Please can you reduce the size of your image to approx 800 x 600 pixels as one that large upsets the page layout! (MAX is 850 square) Thanks!

[seb16trs]

hello, thanks for your kind welcome. My picture is from the Lun "Loon" Ekranoplan. About yours, I must dig again in my docs! ;)

[SincoTC]

Hi seb16trs (possibly seb for short),

Thanks for resizing the image, that's much better!

As you realise, it's not the Lun (Hen Harrier), but you're well on the way (nice Hi-Res Pics in your docs :ok:.

If you do get it, as I suspect you will; it's plain to see that you are well capable of uploading an image to the thread, but if you don't wish to put up your own challenge if you win, and then monitor any responses, please request an Open House when you submit your answer, but really we'd rather have a challenge!

P.S. Be aware that now you've given such a good pointer, someone else may beat you to naming the Challenge craft, so don't delay :)

Good luck and Good Night

Edited again to say sorry mate I did warn you, better luck next time!

TC

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

Is it an A-90?

[SincoTC]

Good Morning Kerling-Approsh KG,

You're correct, it is the A-90 Orlyonok (Eaglet or Sea Eagle), first flight 1972, five built, entered service 1979 and retired 1993. Well done :ok:

Do you want to post a challenge? If not, then please declare Open House to avoid a stalled thread!

Kerling-Approsh KG has Control :D

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

Thank you very much!

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h401/tasyg/Album%201/IMG_0310.jpg

[dash7fan]

Beech King Air C90?

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

Near enough, it's a 200.

Dash7fan has control!

[dash7fan]

Gentlemen pls open house

[evansb]

Gentlemen, I give you the next "What cockpit?":
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP110118.jpg

[evansb]

Clue: A trainer that first flew in 1931.

Here is another big clue:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP110120.jpg

[SincoTC]

Good afternoon evansb,

I think that last picture confirms it as an ANBO-5 ?

[evansb]

Yes, it is:ok:. Well done:D The pride of Lithuania, the ANBO V. Your turn.http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/1272403233_2_FT5196_anbo5-albumas15_1.jpg

[SincoTC]

Thank you,

Here's something a little more modern!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP002.jpg

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

That's a DA42, I believe...

[SincoTC]

You're quite correct; it is a Diamond DA42 TwinStar :D

Kerling-Approsh KG has control

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

Many thanks...

OPEN HOUSE

[BeRich]

Next one...

BeRich, please reduce the size of the pic to 850x850 so that it doesn't overun the page. -Done, sorry

http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx303/BeRich0519/U2Cockpit.jpg

[Cubs2jets]

U2S

C2j

[BeRich]

Yup-c2j has control

[Cubs2jets]

Challenge will be forthcoming. The photo I took with my blackberry was way too small. I'll retake with camera. Please stand by.

C2j

[evansb]

Yes, we continue to standby...http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/people_holding_hand_and_standing_together_side_by_side_0522-1009-0704-0008_SMU1.jpg

[Cubs2jets]

Thank you one and all for your patience.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/DSCF3869.jpg?t=1296168327

C2j

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

OV-1 Mohawk?

[Cubs2jets]

Correct!

The challenge is in your hands!

C2j

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

Once again down route, no pics to share...

Perhaps it's bad form to compete..?

Please let me know...

OPEN HOUSE!

[SincoTC]

Perhaps it's bad form to compete..?

Please let me know...

It's great if you can offer a challenge if you win, and the cockpit photos (unlike those for the Silhouette Challenge thread), often don't need any preparation other than re-sizing, but it's not obligatory and you're very welcome to compete! :ok:

It would be handy, if you think (or maybe it's obvious) that you've answered correctly and you don't wish to post a Challenge, to say when you answer "please declare Open House if correct", as this will keep things moving along and minimise the delays that are inevitable with a forum that attracts contributions from all over the world.

[Cubs2jets]

Try this.

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/DSCF3870.jpg?t=1296271578

C2j

[evansb]

Funk F-23 ?

[evansb]

I'm in a funk.:sad: This thread has stalled, spun and is about to crash.

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

Well, this sort of aircraft is not my main interest, but thinking aloud to give the impression of closing the throttle, applying full opposite rudder, neutral aileron, etc...

The red handle on the right seems to say OXYGEN, the word SUPPLY has been not-quite-photoshopped out at the top of the checklist, the altimeter is distinctive (was there a discussion about that design a while ago here?), it's a fast but probably very old SEP aircraft with a wide cockpit, the red stick top should tell us something, the yellow handle on the floor LHS is vaguely reminiscent of a de Havilland part, and the bright silver coloured handle is also distinctive...

That said, I have no idea what it is!

[Lightning Mate]

Check out the accelerometer!

[Lightning Mate]

Perhaps the "supply" is for smoke.

This is an aerobatic aeroplane.

[Agaricus bisporus]

VNE of 170 is fast??

[Lightning Mate]

VNE of 170 is fast??

Nah mate - it's VR in my world. :eek:

Wot about you?

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

Well, I dare say it's fast for an aircraft of this vintage which doesn't even have a DI... Agreed, it's probably aerobatic max +6g by the look of it, max perhaps 2525 rpm, which sticks in my mind but from engines which wouldn't fit the bill...

Reference the idea that it might be a crop-sprayer, the black handle on the left with the leather gaiter looks incongruous, and possibly a retrofit.

Anyhow, at least the rotation has stopped... Will C2J ease us out of the dive?

[evansb]

Instead of a Funk, I'm thinking it could be a Timm N2T-1 Naval basic trainer, hence the robust nature of the cockpit. Still guessing though..

[MReyn24050]

The list of challenges has been updated.
Mel

[Cubs2jets]

Post WWII. Involvement of two major airframers. Think racing.

C2j

[SincoTC]

Hi C2j

Just going to take a pot-shot at this, it sorta fits the clues, but not great!

The Rollason Beta of 1967 ??

Collaboration between British Aircraft Corporation (but ony trainees) and Rollason Aircraft and Engines (hardley be described as major players). Described as a Racer, placarded speed match OK and it was stressed to +6/-3G, it did have a stick and looks like a 'chute pan type seat. I found a photo of the cockpit, it doesn't fit great, but is is the prototype and they stated there would be changes in the following A/C, so who knows!!

So assuming I'm wrong, does your cockpit come from your side of the "pond" and is it before or after my shot?

[Cubs2jets]

Not the Rollason Beta.

Some shapes give rise to comparison with an iconic airplane.

C2j

[evansb]

This is quite a challenge my friend. I'll guess the original Long Midget Mustang ?

[Cubs2jets]

Well...not the ORIGINAL Long/Schwietzer Midget Mustang, but it IS a Midget Mustang built in 1962. Recently hideously adorned in a pseudo "Cripes a' Mighty" paint scheme to give the museum a "WWII airplane". Ouch!

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/DSCF3874.jpg?t=1296786170

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/DSCF3872-1.jpg?t=1296786433

Over to you EvansB !

C2j

[evansb]

Thanks C2j. Too bad Mr. Long perished in 1950. Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP110204.jpg

[sycamore]

Curtiss Helldiver ?

[evansb]

Sorry, not from Curtiss.

[evansb]

Clue: Only two were built.

[sycamore]

Brewster XA-32 ?

OH if correct...

[evansb]

sycamore is correct.:ok: The dismal XA-32 from the equally dismal Brewster Aircraft Company.

As he said OPEN HOUSE

[Noyade]

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4249/polem.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/polem.jpg/)

[Cubs2jets]

Junkers JU-290?

C2j

[Noyade]

Mate I don't know how much different the cockpit layout is between the civil Ju-90 and the military Ju-290, so control is yours. :ok: It's the Ju-90.

[Cubs2jets]

Er...Uhhh...well, I'm caught flat footed! I threw out a wild guess just to stimulate thinking and I got it (nearly) right. Not prepared with a challenge so Open House. :O

C2j

[Noyade]

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9028/notonlist0074951.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/notonlist0074951.jpg/)

[sycamore]

L-29 that`s had a `makeover`...

[aviate1138]

Wild stab at a Rutan ARES perhaps?

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

In haste, could it be a Bede BD-5J?

[Noyade]

`makeover`...

I see your point mate - not the original instrumentation? Makes it more difficult? Sorry.

This is a Russian aircraft and I found the image from one of those "walkaround" sites on the web.

[sycamore]

I`ll guess it maybe an Su 26,29,or 31,although the nose appears to be more pointed,but maybe lens distortion..

[Noyade]

Not a Sukhoi.

Panning back....

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5977/furtherback.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/furtherback.jpg/)

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

Yak 30 perhaps?

[Noyade]

Yes it is mate! :ok: Your control.

ßê-30 • Yak-30 Magnum (http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/avia/rus/yak/yak-30/index.htm)

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

Thanks Noyade,

An interesting aircraft...

OPEN HOUSE!

[evansb]

Now for something equally interesting but a bit of a change of format. I couldn't find a photo of the instrument panel, but there is sufficient information on the photograph to enable an educated guess as to the identity of the aeroplane.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP110211.jpg

[evansb]

Clues: Only two were built. The designer had a well established aeronautical firm construct the airframes.

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

No idea, but a bit of research led me to the following fascinating site:

Gevers Aircraft - Genesis Triphibian (http://www.geversaircraft.com/index.html)

[Noyade]

Bri is your man in the Gnosspelius Gull?

[evansb]

Yes indeed, Noyade.:ok: It is Baxter Ellis at the controls of the 5-hp Blackburne Tomtit powered twin-airscrew Gnosspelius Gull. Taken at Cramlington Aerodrome. Your control.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/4079059926_607258b589_o1.jpg

[SincoTC]

Good call Graeme :ok:, nice Challenge Brian!

Regretably, it seems that Baxter Ellis was not long for this world! :sad:

From Wiki "The second aircraft was unregistered and was flown at Lympne as No. 19, it crashed at Cramlington on 18 June 1926 killing the pilot"

[Noyade]

Thanks Bri!

In a similar vein, maybe?...

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/3875/cockpitl.jpg (http://img810.imageshack.us/i/cockpitl.jpg/)

[Noyade]

No idea, but a bit of research led me to the following fascinating site:
Gevers Aircraft - Genesis Triphibian (http://www.geversaircraft.com/index.html)Saw that in a book mate from 1996. I'm guessing it never flew? Make an interesting Silhouette Challenge though and it's on the net! :ok: (Shhh...don't tell anyone).

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8588/gevers.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/i/gevers.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Samuel Franklin Cody in his biplane "Cathedral" with the passengers.

[Noyade]

Samuel Franklin Cody in his biplane

All yours Mel. :ok:

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Graeme. Here is the next one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz372.jpg

[Noyade]

A kitplane Mel?

I'm sure I owned a bicycle that had hand grips similar to those on the joysticks.

[MReyn24050]

No, Graeme, this was not a kitplane.

[evansb]

Kari-Keen Coupe ?

[MReyn24050]

:ok: That is the one Bri. The Kari-Keen 90 Sioux Coupe, the subject of a recent Aviaquiz challenge.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/136_3637.jpg

You have control.

[evansb]

Thanks Mel! Fun challenge! Here is the next "What Cockpit?":
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP110215.jpg

[NutherA2]

Gardan GY-80 Horizon ?

[evansb]

Sorry, not the Gardan GY-80 Horizon.

[Cubs2jets]

Cessna 190/195

C2j

[evansb]

C2j is correct.:ok: The photo is a Cessna 190. Your control.

[Cubs2jets]

Errr..one must be careful if one wishes to play. NOTE TO SELF: Be ready with a challenge!!

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/Cubs2jets/WhatcockpitB.jpg?t=1297941054

C2j

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

Just a wild stab...

Miles Martinet?

[Cubs2jets]

Not from the miles stable.

C2j

[sycamore]

Looks a bit Hawker-ish..a Henley target-tug perhaps ?

[Cubs2jets]

Not from Hawker. To my knowledge it never served in "ancilliary" roles - though I could be proven wrong. Does the shape of the instrument panel remind anyone of anything?

C2j

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

So if it has machine guns, and a cable drum, but you say it didn't serve in ancilliary roles, what was its prime role, I wonder?

[sycamore]

Unless it`s an HF trailing aerial system...Brit/Euro/USA ?

[Cubs2jets]

I can't say for certain that it is NOT a cable drum, but can you say for sure that it IS? Could be ammo feed for the guns, couldn't it?

Some spent a lot of time tied up in formation flying.

C2j

[Kitbag]

RAF squadrons in the late twenties, early thirties performed aerobatics tied together so using that as an extremely tenuous link, how about the AW Siskin?

[SincoTC]

I'd go for A Hawker Fury ?

[Cubs2jets]

Not an AW product, Kitbag, but your train of thought is heading in the right direction.

To move things along, it is NOT of European origin.

Apparently the site I originally downloaded the picture from some time ago has gon on the blink and this particular picture is no longer on the internet (except here, of course).

C2j

[Kitbag]

Ok, now shooting in the dark, how about a Boeing F2B?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/F2Bs_3Seahawks_1928_NAN4-79.jpg/800px-F2Bs_3Seahawks_1928_NAN4-79.jpg

[Cubs2jets]

We have a WINNER !!! Boeing F2B. Thanks for playing.

C2j

[Kitbag]

Thanks C2J

Not been used before according to Mels' list:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/WCPFeb20.jpg

[evansb]

Guessing a HAL HF.24 Marut ?

[Kitbag]

Sorry, not from India, though a similar timescale, it had quite a mixed ancestry, rather like the Marut.

[Noyade]

What's Egyptian for "scary looking dude?"

The Helwan Ha-300

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8262/yshha300ckpt1im9.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/yshha300ckpt1im9.jpg/)

[Noyade]

Kitbag?

If your challenge is/was the Helwan HA-300....open house.

[Kitbag]

Noyade has it - OH

The HA300 was designed by Willy Messerschmitt in Spain bfore the project was sold to Egypt. Financial constraints following the 6 Day War killed it off after only 3 prototypes. The Marut was designed by ex Focke Wulf chief Kurt Tank drawing on his experience in Argentina and achieved series production.

[Noyade]

Thanks mate!

To keep the thread away from page 2, here's another....

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6300/doubledutch.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/doubledutch.jpg/)

[VX275]

Given the promenance given to the four sets of engine instruments I take it the engines weren't all that reliable. Something WW2 German jet then.

[Noyade]

German, but no jets involved.

[Kitbag]

Going by the simple layout how about the Heinkel He 116?

There were two variants of this but this is the only image of the challenge type I can get to link:
http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/germany/he-116.gif

[Noyade]

Heinkel He 116

:ok:

Your control Kitbag!

[Kitbag]

Thanks Noyade, haven't picked 2 on the bounce for a while. Surprisingly (to me anyway) this baby hasn't appeared before.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/What%20Cockpit/WCPFeb28.jpg

[sycamore]

Avro CF-100 `Clunk`?

[Kitbag]

Yep Sycamore is spot on :D, the CF 100 Canuck, known as the 'clunk'.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/24/CF-100-Alberta_Aviation_Museum.jpg/800px-CF-100-Alberta_Aviation_Museum.jpg


You have control.

[evansb]

Well sycamore, its been 24 hours now, we're waiting...

[sycamore]

Sorrryeeeee!!!,OPEN HOUSE .....coat and flak jacket...

[evansb]

Thanks sycamore:) Here is the next challenge:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP110227.jpg

[aviate1138]

Looks like a Saab Draken???? Been googling like mad but can't find the solution to this intriguing pic. :)

[evansb]

It isn't from Scandinavia, but it is a delta-wing aircraft. Unfortunately, I was unable to source any instrument panel photos of the mystery aircraft.

[Noyade]

Bri it looks like the Argentinean IA.37...

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/5976/hortenybaladoenelia37mn.gif (http://img641.imageshack.us/i/hortenybaladoenelia37mn.gif/)

Having modem problems, so if it is, open house.

[evansb]

Spot on Noyade:ok: Well done:D. The FMA I.Ae 37 Planeador. As you said, it is OPEN HOUSE.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/0002zd1.jpg

[clunckdriver]

Small point, the CF100 cockpit is a MK4B, the aircraft shown is a MK5, a very different aircraft, {No guns, only FFAARs, extended wings, more thrust , almost 10,000lbs lighter} Spent 1750hrs of my miss spent youth straped in various Marks, Oh to be eighteen again!

[evansb]

So it was more of a "Clank" than a "Clunk"?:)

Sadly, many CF-100s were shipped by rail to Lethbridge, only to be broken down and scrapped/melted.

[Kitbag]

Clunkdriver, thanks for that clarification. I have always found the CF100 an attractive aircraft that never received the attention it deserves, sadly open source Mk4 photos are pretty rare but see here (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Canada---Air/Avro-Canada-CF-100/0752578/L/). At least I avoided the Mk3!

[Kitbag]

As it's an OH, this hasn't appeared before either:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/WCPMar1.jpg

[evansb]

I'll keep the thread moving by guessing a Junkers K.47..

[Kitbag]

Like your thinking, but no. Right country, wrong role, wrong decade.

[evansb]

Blohm & Voss Ha.137 ?

[Kitbag]

Right country, right role, right decade.

[SincoTC]

Hi Kitbag,

That looks like it's a Henschel HS-123 ?

[Kitbag]

SincoTC has it

http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW3/hs123-002.jpg

[SincoTC]

Thanks Kitbag,

Here's the next cockpit!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP003.jpg

[Kitbag]

Bristol Type 142 'Britain First'?

[SincoTC]

No sir, not a Bristol.

[Kitbag]

Ok, looking at the rudder pedals they seem German, there appears to be some sort of reflector sight on the instrument panel coaming. The transparency frames do not appear symmetrica, and what is happening in the lower fuselage?
How about Dornier 217 night intruder/night fighter series?

[SincoTC]

A good follow-up shot! It is the Dornier Do-217 J :D

Do-217 cockpit interior, pilot station on left (seats removed for photography purposes), radio/navigator on right, dorsal gun post in front of photo, ventral gun post below deck.

I thought when I posted it that I was taking a chance following on after your previous challenge!!

Kitbag has control

[Kitbag]

TVM. Yet another that hasn't appeared before, and I guess it won't last long.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/What%20Cockpit/WCPMar3.jpg

[SincoTC]

Supermarine S6B ?

[Kitbag]

Yet another that hasn't appeared before, and I guess it won't last long

See, I told you so!

Absolutely correct: Supermarine S6B.

You have control

[SincoTC]

Thanks Kitbag,

Let's see if this one fares any better! I doubt it will, but it's nice to keep things moving!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP004.jpg

[aviate1138]

I'll prove I'm an idiot......Jian-10 perhaps? :)

[SincoTC]

Not an idiot aviate, you've got the right part of the World, but the wrong aircraft!

[Kitbag]

AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo (its the single seat one at the back of the hangar)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/100B2033.JPG/800px-100B2033.JPG

[SincoTC]

That's the one Kitbag :D

The AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo, although, according to wiki, where both you're image and mine appear, the cockpit is captioned as belonging to the F-CK-1 C/D Hsiang Sheng, which from the evidence of the red carpet and other clues is wrong!

Let's hope AIDC never produce a -U2 version as that would give serious concern to "net nanny" software trawling for naughty words :uhoh:

Kitbag has control :ok:

[Kitbag]

TVM SincoTC. Lets see how this replay from a few years ago plays out:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa154/Kitweston/What%20Cockpit/WCPMar4.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Bristol Buckmaster Cockpit perhaps?

[Kitbag]

Right! That's it! I'm retiring!

Mel is quite right, it's the Buckmaster advanced trainer

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Bristol_Buckmaster.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Kitbag. Here is one I am sure you will get in no time:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz373.jpg
Mel

[Kitbag]

Blind flying panel and spade grip make it seem British to me, screen frame makes me think of Blackburn Roc or Skua. I'll guess at Skua dive bomber, but don't have any idea if they can be differentiated

[MReyn24050]

This one was not from Blackburn.

[Kitbag]

But it was named after a bird? Fairey Fulmar?

[sycamore]

Something wild, a Barracuda ?

[MReyn24050]

Nothing wild from Fairey either.

[Kitbag]

This is getting silly. (and I'm getting desperate!)

Miles Master?

[sycamore]

Did it see operational service in wartime ? after ?

[MReyn24050]

Kitbag, not the Miles Master.
sycamore. Yes the aircraft did see operational service in WWII.
Mel

[Noyade]

This one was not from Blackburn. Nothing wild from Fairey either. not the Miles Master. But you didn't deny it was from Miles Mel.....? :)

A Miles product?

[Kitbag]

Some talk of Alexander, and some of Hercules,
Of Hector and Lysander, and such great men as these;

Westlands Lizzie?

[MReyn24050]

Sorry for the delay. This aircraft is not a Miles product or from Westlands.

[Kitbag]

Its not Fairey, Westland, Miles or Blackburn. I'm wondering if it might be the Boulton Paul Defiant.

Nope, scratch that, I'll go for Short Sturgeon as it hasn't appeared before.

That's my last word tonight because my brain is turning to cream cheese and starting to dribble out of my ears.

[MReyn24050]

Sorry for causing you such trouble Kitbag. I am about to add even more pain. This aircraft was not from the Fairey, Westland, Miles, Blackburn, Boulton Paul or short stables. I too am going to hit the sack, see you tomorrow.
Mel

[Noyade]

Mel, there's a section (see below) that looks very much like the Hawker Hurricane.

Maybe yours is the Hawker Henley/Hotspur?

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/3940/cockpitquiz373.jpg (http://img825.imageshack.us/i/cockpitquiz373.jpg/)
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/9971/hurricaneg.jpg (http://img560.imageshack.us/i/hurricaneg.jpg/)

[MReyn24050]

Graeme, this one is not a Hawker Henley or Hotspur.
Mel

[skytrain10]

I'm sure it has to be a Hawker...too many similarities not to be.

I would say Hawker Typhoon, but thats been done, so maybe the Tempest?

[MReyn24050]

Ken, you are correct in saying it has to be a Hawker...too many similarities not to be It is indeed the cockpit of a Hawker Tempest Mk V. :ok: You have control.

[skytrain10]

Thanks Mel...process of elimination really!

This one's a little newer:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii457/kendyer/Silhouette%20Challenge/4d3d765a.jpg

[MReyn24050]

Beechcraft B60 Duke perhaps?

[BSD]

Haven't checked in for a while, but really good to see this fascinating thread still soldiers on.

My money is on MREYNE, A Duke without a doubt; after nearly 35 years, the sheer terror of flying one in and around Western Australia still brings me out in a cold sweat. Fabulous aeroplane at say 17000', just beginning to enjoy a little nibble of decent wind behind the tail. Getting it off the ground at Newman, Mt Tom Price, Paraburdoo in 40 plus centigrade was another matter. Lord knows how one managed it. Great aeroplane for short legs in the US for a man and his briefcase, but heavy, with lots of fuel in the bush in WA - character forming comes to mind.

Best wishes to one and all,

BSD.

[skytrain10]

Apologies for the delay gents...yes Mel has it, its the Beech B60 Duke. Well done:ok:

Your control Mel.

[MReyn24050]

Thanks Ken. Great to see you back on the thread BSD, you used to be a star player.
Here is another nice easy one:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Cockpitquiz374.jpg

Mel

[MReyn24050]

:{ Obviously not that easy!

[sycamore]

Something `Continental` about it,possibly Polish,Czech,high wing ,from the struts,and the `organ-grinder` looks more like a mechanical u-c winder,than a trim wheel ?

[evansb]

I'm guessing the handle cranks the engine.

[MReyn24050]

I believe the crank was to raise and lower the wheels. This aircraft was from a country a bit further east than Poland.
Mel

[evansb]

Shavrov SH-2 ?

[MReyn24050]

That is the one Bri. You have control.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/0906937.jpg

[evansb]

Thanks Mel. A very enjoyable challenge! Here is the next one:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP110307.jpg

[HappyJack260]

Taylor Aerocar?

[Noyade]

Lockheed Big Dipper.....

Lockheed : 34 : Big Dipper | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/4589888931/)

[evansb]

Noyade is correct.:ok: Your control.

[Noyade]

Thanks mate!

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5414/oneoftheabove.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/oneoftheabove.jpg/)

[evansb]

Westland Welkin ?

[Noyade]

Westland Welkin ?

Don't know how you do it mate, but spot on ! :ok:

Your control Bri.

[evansb]

Well, my deductive process may be convoluted, but it is obviously British, (the aeroplane, not my process). Several clues here, like the joystick, standard blind flying panel, compass, etc., all say British. It is twin engined, non-jet powered, pressurized cockpit, (given the thickness of the canopy and windscreen frames). The ovoid frame of the windscreen, and the downward slant visibility (low to no glare shield) starts to narrow the selection of candidates. After eliminating the Vickers 432, I looked closely at some Westland cockpits and noticed similarities, although I never found a photo or diagram of the Welkin cockpit, I supposed it may be that beautiful beast. I do enjoy the hunt. Thank you for that.

Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP110310.jpg

[Noyade]

Hate to see your challenge on page 2 mate, but I've no idea what it is, even with the generous wide shot.

Aerobatic?
European?

[sycamore]

It`s the `flying duck`,Lockspeiser LDA-01,G-UTIL.. Open House if correct...

[evansb]

sycamore is correct. As he said, it is OPEN HOUSE.

[Noyade]

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/7601/smallerc.jpg (http://img832.imageshack.us/i/smallerc.jpg/)

[VX275]

A tail sitter?

[Noyade]

I tried to crop it! ;)

Yes mate.

[sycamore]

XFV -1 LOCKHEED SALMON,with Herman R Salmon

[Noyade]

Yes mate. Your control. :D

[sycamore]

Open house...

[Noyade]

Any good mate or do we prefer the inside bits ?....

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/278/640o.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/640o.jpg/)

[sycamore]

USA, NAVY,experimental/prototype, piston ?

[Noyade]

G'day mate!

American.
Not Navy.
Jets
Very big.
Never went into production.

[skytrain10]

Graeme, you're two timing us mate :)

Martin XB-51 possibly?

[Noyade]

Licence says I can post anywhere! :)

Not Martin.

Here's the mock-up from the front....

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1939/frontygs.jpg (http://img577.imageshack.us/i/frontygs.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Mock-up? So not actually built then?

[Noyade]

Sorry.

Mock-up shots.

Two prototypes built (Wiki) but the front framing was slightly different.

This will clinch it...

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4314/oiuf.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/oiuf.jpg/)

[Noyade]

I think the mock-up guys were smoking pot when making the middle shot, but the throttle count is correct...

(...and top photo at right...look at the large engine nacelle....)

[Noyade]

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2426/moresd.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/moresd.jpg/)

[skytrain10]

Well I'm sure the answer to this must be obvious, but I'm missing it completely. 4 jets, 2 per "pod" I presume...so similar era to the B-45/XB-46? Covered all the B- and XB- sequence and can't see anything there:ugh:

[sycamore]

Curtis-Wright XF-87 Blackhawk...OH ,if correct

[Noyade]

Curtis-Wright XF-87 Blackhawk

:ok:

Sycamore has requested open house.

[evansb]

Here is the next mystery cockpit:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/WCP110318.jpg

[evansb]

I'm underwhelmed by the response. Powered by a Lycoming O-320. Early versions crashed during spin training, resulting in a mod.

[skytrain10]

Is it a Thurston Teal?

[evansb]

Sorry, not a Thurston Teal.

[SincoTC]

How about the Aerotec T-23A Uirapuru ??

[evansb]

sincoTC is spot on:ok: The cockpit of a former Brazilian Air Force T-23A Uirapuru (Wren) was pictured. Your turn.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r68/convair640/56-12.jpg

[SincoTC]

Thank you, I wouldn't have come anywhere near without the spinning clue!!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP005.jpg

[Noyade]

American......?

[SincoTC]

Not American!

This was the only photo I could find that didn't show a very obvious feature that would be a certain giveaway!

[SincoTC]

The "feature" I mention, gives this civil aircraft's cockpit a rather military look!

[Noyade]

The "feature" I mention, gives this civil aircraft's cockpit a rather military look! I think the penny dropped. Tupolev Tu-104...?

Is the "feature" the navigator's position?

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/517/104wk.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/104wk.jpg/)

[SincoTC]

Is the "feature" the navigator's position?

Indeed it is Graeme! The Tupolev Tu-104

Noyade has control :ok:

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor!

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5782/newto.gif (http://img823.imageshack.us/i/newto.gif/)

[sycamore]

One from the `Ironworks`..? Grumman Guardian ? OH if correct..

[Noyade]

Yes indeed Syc. :ok:

Open House.

[RegDep]

OK, let's shoot for a double

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g472/RegDep/Bildschirmfoto2011-03-23um180005-1.png

[SincoTC]

OK, let's shoot for a double

The double being SC and WC Challenges, so it must be the Leningradets light-aircraft of 1962 ??

[RegDep]

Right you are TC!

Over to you!

Reg

[SincoTC]

Thanks Reg,

Here's the latest mystery cockpit!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n540/SincoSafe/TC_WzztCP006.jpg

[Kerling-Approsh KG]

Jet Provost? If so, OH...

[SincoTC]

Hi K-A,

Not a JP, we've already had that one, but you are close!

[Noyade]

BAC Strikemaster.

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[SincoTC]

Good evening Graeme,

You've got it mate, the BAC Strikemaster :ok:

Noyade has control

[Noyade]

Thanks Trevor.

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