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Old 17th Jul 2018, 04:40
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Has anyone been invited for a sim assessment? Please send me a PM if so.
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Old 17th Jul 2018, 10:24
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Originally Posted by fullhouse View Post
Hi,

Does anyone know if on joining BA you are issued a company flight/nav bag?
Iíll admit for some reason that comment made me chuckle....

As has been said you get issued an iPad and a uniform, luggage etc is down to the individual...


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Old 18th Jul 2018, 05:18
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Originally Posted by wiggy View Post


Iíll admit for some reason that comment made me chuckle....

As has been said you get issued an iPad and a uniform, luggage etc is down to the individual...

you can claim tax back on flight cases as it's a business expense. Same with any active noise reduction headphones for use whilst deadheading or in augmented rest. Sun glasses too.

Speak to.your Balpa rep.
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Old 18th Jul 2018, 09:49
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VinRouge, I think that's covered by the BALPA negotiated FREA (Fixed Rate Expense Allowance) - no individual items will be claimable. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 18th Jul 2018, 09:54
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https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-man...anual/eim50051

(BA provide noise cancelling headsets on the flight deck)

As far as flight cases and HMRC are concerned, like overstress I've always thought that was covered by the FREA : "the industry wide FRE for airline pilots, and other flight deck crew (see EIM50052) does not include anything for items of normal luggage, although the pilot’s flight case is included"... that's from:

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-man...anual/eim50055
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 11:31
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Group assessment & Interview

Iíve just booked in for the group and interview stage in August.

Does anyone have any examples of questions or group situations, please?

PMs greatly appreciated
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 15:32
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Hi all,
I have just booked stage 2.

P.s.
I have a UK CAA issued licence but I want to renew my type rating in Italy with an Italian SFE.
Do you know what forms and what documents will be requested by the UK CAA.

Sorry for the Offtopic.

Regards,

Angelo26
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 13:21
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The BA website list all their salaries as 'Competitive' which makes it hard to try and make any sort of judgement on when deciding to move there from another airline.

Does anyone know what the Year 1 DEP FO (probably LGW) salary is? PilotJobsNetwork says £58,864 but not entirely sure how accurate this is.
TIA
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 13:38
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Originally Posted by GetTheQRH View Post
The BA website list all their salaries as 'Competitive' which makes it hard to try and make any sort of judgement on when deciding to move there from another airline.

Does anyone know what the Year 1 DEP FO (probably LGW) salary is? PilotJobsNetwork says £58,864 but not entirely sure how accurate this is.
TIA
That figure is very accurate.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 14:15
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I have a mate DEP on LH type LHR based, joined couple or so years ago. Nearer £70G now with all the add ons.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 14:32
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Repeating Dupreís Post the figure is very accurate. Yes all in youíre potentially looking at over £70k but that very much depends on many factors now that theyíve taken away the fixed flying pay. For instance sickness, multiple reserve periods that arenít particularly busy, months with leave and/or pre-assignments, theyíll all dent your take home. Plus if youíre looking to buy a property you can forget borrowing against the variable elements of the salary any more (at least not until youíve been with the company for two years and can produce twelve months of payslips and even then banks will only take into account half of it). So that figure is very relevant despite being seduced by the extras.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 17:47
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It would take you 28 years in BA to break even with Easyjet in terms of total income based on time scale to command as it stands.

All depends on what you want from life / a job.

BA is not the answer for all.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 18:48
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Originally Posted by 8029848s View Post
It would take you 28 years in BA to break even with Easyjet in terms of total income based on time scale to command as it stands.

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Absolute nonsense.

You can make all kinds of assumptions about things like time to command, time to long haul, whether you should include the roughly 1000 GBP/month downroute allowances BA pilots get paid that easyjet guys to not, the fact the BA total pension contribution is around 50% higher than easyjet, easyjet loyalty bonus, money earned per actual day at work etc. We could argue those things till we are bored to tears. Lies, damned lies and statistics (and all that). Frankly you can argue it both ways.

However, how on earth you came up with 28 years to break even takes some doing.

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Old 27th Jul 2018, 17:10
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Response Time

Hey guys, does anyone know how long they take for any initial response, after the submitting CV part? I got the immediate email to say the application was in, but is there a standard response time?

Thanks!
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Old 27th Jul 2018, 21:43
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I waited about 6 weeks from the intial application received to a response. Some people I know had a response within a week.
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Old 27th Jul 2018, 21:46
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28 years to break even with easyJet? Donít think so.
I know a few LH FO 10 years at BA on 6 figures.
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Old 27th Jul 2018, 22:27
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Not on PP34 you don’t.
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Old 27th Jul 2018, 22:52
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Its not rocket science guys...use excel......2/3 years to a command in Easy Jet Ryanair, considerably longer in BA to achieve the four figures in BA which is actually on SH command below the others carriers and yes...bingo...28 years plus or minus.

Ok the pension in BA is slightly better but we are almost identical on BA SH in terms of hours / productivity than Easy Jet / Ryanair.

If you live in the regions, even Jet2 makes more sense unless you crave long haul...in which join Virgin and have 5 days rather than 1/2 off before your next flight in BA.

Trust me...at the present caps, and we are 400 pilots short, you are highly likely to be ill, fatigued, or divorced in BA if things continue as they are.
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Old 27th Jul 2018, 23:28
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It’s not that bad at BA, shall we steer the thread back to BA DEP recruitment as opposed an easy v ba v jet2 thread, there are other places for that. If it’s money you’re after go and fly in China. BA has a new CC, so things may or may not get interesting over the next few months. DEP recruitment opened up again, now requiring just 100 sectors with a TR which satisfies the ZFT requirement. This may or may not be less than 500 hours.
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 06:26
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BA still has the appeal to many people. I used to always want to work for them but definitely would consider other carriers for a long term career if outside London or close to other airports. I can’t believe the amount of people willing to commute large distances just to work for BA. I currently commute (drive) 1-1.5 hrs to my current outfit and it is soul destroying, hardest part of the day.
For me I can get to LHR in 10-15 mins by car or can get the tube about 20-30 mins so BA makes sense. If I lived further away I don’t think I would consider them.
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