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Old 28th Jul 2018, 06:26
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BA still has the appeal to many people. I used to always want to work for them but definitely would consider other carriers for a long term career if outside London or close to other airports. I can’t believe the amount of people willing to commute large distances just to work for BA. I currently commute (drive) 1-1.5 hrs to my current outfit and it is soul destroying, hardest part of the day.
For me I can get to LHR in 10-15 mins by car or can get the tube about 20-30 mins so BA makes sense. If I lived further away I don’t think I would consider them.
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 08:31
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Originally Posted by 8029848s View Post
unless you crave long haul...in which join Virgin and have 5 days rather than 1/2 off before your next flight in BA.
Maybe on the 787 with all the engine issues at the moment. Certainly not true for the guys on the A330 and this is before all the issues with the 787 engines kicked off. Trip two days off, trip two days off was certainly true for the Airbus roster that I saw at VS. Plus do you really think it’s a secure place to work now Branson has sold it? Even when he owned it if you were bouncing around the bottom of the seniority list you were in dire peril whenever someone so much as sneezed on Wall St.

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Old 28th Jul 2018, 13:43
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I have been looking at the whole BA/EZY deal for a while. I ran the figures a few days ago and it takes 21 years at BA to match the basic at EZY including their loyalty bonus. (SH Captain on PP34) Allowances are roughly similar so forget that one. The difference is pension. BA offer me 16.5% (avcís you see) where EZY offer you 7%. Essentially BA pay a lower basic but your pension or deferred pay is greater. If I were to change one thing about my position it would be to live closer to Heathrow. The commute is crap but honestly I canít live around London. That leaves a commute. Itís only just over an hour but itís a ball ache. Live near London I would take BA. Live near a regional airport I would take a LOCO with the hope of a base move one day. BA is a good company generally but if you are not fussed with LH or donít like living out of a suit case or a Van in a truck stop then there are better options.

Saw that managed path has opened which is great news.
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 13:46
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virgin has 750 hour annual limit, so there’s a slight advantage there. Absolute gold dust that kind of contract these day.
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 13:55
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bex88 said "Saw that managed path has opened which is great news. "
Whats that then ?
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 14:16
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Itís the specific pathway/scheme for those joining from the military (and yes I agree with bex...it is good news)...

https://careers.ba.com/military-scheme
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 14:19
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Originally Posted by 3Greens View Post
virgin has 750 hour annual limit, so thereís a slight advantage there. Absolute gold dust that kind of contract these day.
And then last year they posted a loss in pretty favourable industry conditions. Weíll see how long the contract lasts
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Old 28th Jul 2018, 15:59
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Well the 750 limit has been here for the 22 years I have been at Virgin, and management have stated they are quite happy with this arrangement
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 03:30
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Bringing the thread back to BA DEP issues.....

I'd like to add a couple of links that might be useful for anyone going to a simulator assessment, if you have never seen a Lido chart before. (in the sim, I found the assessors to be really helpful, but I still found it useful to know where to look on the chart for critical things like MSA, DA/MDA etc).

Approach charts:

SIDs:

STARs:
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 05:26
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Has any in the latest recruitment drive been offered start dates or is it still long term swimmers?
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 11:34
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All I know is we need you guys on board ASAP. Caps ridiculously high for months now.
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 11:51
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And the more we get, the better it becomes!
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 12:44
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Dupre...Many thanks for the links to the Lido videos. There was more tuition there than I received from BA on
the use of the Lido charts. I certainly learnt a thing or two.
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Old 29th Jul 2018, 13:40
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Originally Posted by zero/zero View Post
Has any in the latest recruitment drive been offered start dates or is it still long term swimmers?
Are there a lot of swimmers now then?
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Old 30th Jul 2018, 11:03
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Hi guys,
Been browsing the internet, but could not get any info on the BA rosters.
Can anyone tell how many days you can expect to be off on LH and SH per month?
I assume this will also differ in summer season and winter season?

Thanks!
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Old 30th Jul 2018, 11:11
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Pilloting: now there is a question. Extreme answer followed by a realistic one. CAP is 90hrs and minimum credit per day is 4:30 so if you are junior doing the crap nobody else wants then you will see 10 days off. If your senior and picking exactly what you want (JSS supposedly will allow this with some built in safe guards designed by BALPA to ensure fairness ��....yeah right) you could reach CAP in about 10-12 days. Ok the reality is probably somewhere in the middle. 12 days off if your junior and perhaps 15 days off if your senior and you bid for max credit trips.

Thats SH. Cannot really comment on LH too much. But some working days LH start at 8 or 9 in the evening or end at 6-7 in the morning so it can throw it out a bit. It’s like a night DME on SH. I don’t view it as two days work but officially it is
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Old 30th Jul 2018, 12:18
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Thanks Bex88! really helpful!
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Old 30th Jul 2018, 12:40
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At the risk of getting lynched by my SH colleagues, my junior LH roster has around 14 days off, plus or minus a couple. That said, my fleet is having a relatively quiet period due to certain, ahem, technical issues Ė I canít speak for the triple or jumbo guys.

And while some LH Ďdaysí might finish at 0800, Iím usually so knackered that the rest of that day is a write-off, and often the following day as well.
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Old 30th Jul 2018, 19:14
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Short haul junior trash - Above CAP and 13 days off in August and only one evening where I wonít be having dinner at home with my family. Pretty standard month, definitely canít complain about lifestyle. (Although I probably will)

Pay could be better and Iíve got high hopes for the new BACC, feel like the tide has turned and weíve got great expectations of what can be achieved if weíre prepared to get behind them.
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Old 30th Jul 2018, 19:36
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Originally Posted by WhatTheDeuce View Post
Short haul junior trash - Above CAP and 13 days off in August and only one evening where I wonít be having dinner at home with my family. Pretty standard month, definitely canít complain about lifestyle. (Although I probably will)

Pay could be better and Iíve got high hopes for the new BACC, feel like the tide has turned and weíve got great expectations of what can be achieved if weíre prepared to get behind them.
Gatwick I guess?
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