BA Direct Entry Pilot.
Joined: Oct 2010
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From: UK
Recent developments? One test has changed! One that was pretty ridiculous anyway.
Plastic787 very easy to sound high and mighty and make those that failed sound of a poorer standard, but trust me, someone who can pass a verbal test is not automatically a better aircraft operator. So to suggest that all you need 'nowadays is a pulse'....is a ridiculously arrogant statement, one I almost expect.
Plastic787 very easy to sound high and mighty and make those that failed sound of a poorer standard, but trust me, someone who can pass a verbal test is not automatically a better aircraft operator. So to suggest that all you need 'nowadays is a pulse'....is a ridiculously arrogant statement, one I almost expect.
Joined: Mar 2008
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From: Somewhere
Seems tongue in cheek doesn't translate well to the written word! It seems some of those accusing me of egotism have a rather fragile ego if they're taking my comments seriously. In any case apologies for the offence caused by a throwaway comment (which was pertaining more to BA's high requirement for pilots at the moment rather than any comment on the standard of individuals)..
Last edited by Plastic787; 14th May 2016 at 21:08.
Joined: Oct 2010
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From: UK
Well I take comments on face value, unless it's clear tongue and cheek was intended. Without knowing you and without reading every post you've ever written I was not going to assume anything. Don't have a fragile ego- don't even have an ego...just think those type of comments while pretending to be a complete joke are always laced with an undertone of true feelings from the person posting it. So don't really want to see it, and will gladly call someone out even if they use the excuse they were trying to be funny.
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: Unknown
Totally agree with VJW - not passing which is my case I admit, but it does not make you any less significant, there are over hundreds of pilots in BA who come from airlines like BMI for example who didn't have to do the selections but yet very high standards pilots and a integrated asset within BA, some of the pilots at BMI when it was up and running attended BA and failed the selection but now integrated within the company post BMI and again are of high standards including pilots integrated directly from LGW Cityflyer after the year 2000, so the test does not prove anything but simply an excersise that you have to do in order to satisfy BA recruitment team.
I am sure if you make a very senior TRE Captain who has been in the company over 25 years and ask him/her to sit the selection they may not pass, does that mean they are not BA material, who knows maybe even if the pilot recruitment manager sat the test the results may or may not be favourable.
I am sure if you make a very senior TRE Captain who has been in the company over 25 years and ask him/her to sit the selection they may not pass, does that mean they are not BA material, who knows maybe even if the pilot recruitment manager sat the test the results may or may not be favourable.
Joined: May 2011
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From: Europe
For those that didn't make it through Day 2:
1) Anyone been called before 12 months for a re-assessment?
2) Do you have to go through the whole process again, i.e. Day 1 as well?
Is recruitment likely to continue till May '17?
1) Anyone been called before 12 months for a re-assessment?
2) Do you have to go through the whole process again, i.e. Day 1 as well?
Is recruitment likely to continue till May '17?
Joined: May 2005
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From: France
Hi Angelo,
I'm not sure which type BA are using at the moment, but this might help if it's a 757/767:
It has 2nd generation EFIS with an EADI and an EHSI which can display VOR/ILS full rose, expanded rose or Map.
The other flight instruments are conventional round-dial ASI, Altimeter, IVSI and DDRMI. The primary engine gauges are on the upper EICAS and are round-dial EPR, N1 and EGT.
If you have a brain fade:
60% N1 and 5 degrees nose up will give S+L clean at about 220kts;
65% and 4 degrees will give S+L with F5 at about 180kts; and
55% and 1 degree will give an ILS profile with gear down, F20 and about 155kts.
The main thing to watch is to keep it in trim! Very powerful thrust/pitch couple which can cause 'reverse trimming', e.g. on a go-around, you apply TOGA thrust and pitch to 15 degrees but you have to trim nose down to stop the attitude increasing further. Then, when you level off, lower the nose and reduce thrust to 65%, you have to trim nose up to stop the attitude reducing too much.
Please note that I am not rated on the 757/767 but have been rated on 737 and 747 and also have access to some 767 manuals which allow me to make 'educated guesses' regarding generic handling techniques. Good luck!
I'm not sure which type BA are using at the moment, but this might help if it's a 757/767:
It has 2nd generation EFIS with an EADI and an EHSI which can display VOR/ILS full rose, expanded rose or Map.
The other flight instruments are conventional round-dial ASI, Altimeter, IVSI and DDRMI. The primary engine gauges are on the upper EICAS and are round-dial EPR, N1 and EGT.
If you have a brain fade:
60% N1 and 5 degrees nose up will give S+L clean at about 220kts;
65% and 4 degrees will give S+L with F5 at about 180kts; and
55% and 1 degree will give an ILS profile with gear down, F20 and about 155kts.
The main thing to watch is to keep it in trim! Very powerful thrust/pitch couple which can cause 'reverse trimming', e.g. on a go-around, you apply TOGA thrust and pitch to 15 degrees but you have to trim nose down to stop the attitude increasing further. Then, when you level off, lower the nose and reduce thrust to 65%, you have to trim nose up to stop the attitude reducing too much.
Please note that I am not rated on the 757/767 but have been rated on 737 and 747 and also have access to some 767 manuals which allow me to make 'educated guesses' regarding generic handling techniques. Good luck!
Joined: Oct 2007
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From: southern england
Angelo I did my sim 5 years back on 747. To my mind I was ropey handling wise at best. I'm Airbus rated as was my co-conspirator. We failed to land on either approach, forgot to get the weather and were briefing the Sid and approach into ema as we flew down it. BUT the one thing we did was stay calm, jollied each other along , laughed a little and stayed safe. We both got in. Don't sweat the big stuff , do your best but above all show them you are a calm , professional affable pilot who has a sense of humour under pressure. Good luck. Ps my trimming was abysmal.
Joined: Jan 2012
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From: UK
Massiveheed
From the feedback I have had, from a number of people who have not got through the sim assessment, you would not get away with that now.
Feedback that they have received has been relatively minor points compared to what you have admitted to.
Different assessors look at things in different ways, though. They shouldn't - but they do.
From the feedback I have had, from a number of people who have not got through the sim assessment, you would not get away with that now.
Feedback that they have received has been relatively minor points compared to what you have admitted to.
Different assessors look at things in different ways, though. They shouldn't - but they do.