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Old 12th Jul 2018, 18:30
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The EASA FTL issue in relation to leave has been tested with the CAA by another airline where the same question had arisen. The definitions of this in ORO.FTL.105 are quite specific in that you can only move between conditions of acclimatisation and non-acclimatisation via a duty, which is then defined as a task that the crew member performs for the operator. You therefore cannot become non acclimatised as a result of travel around your leave under the EASA FTL scheme and so insisting on the full minimum time at base after leisure travel is not a requirement. Clearly none of this removes the individual crew member's responsibilities (ORO.FTL.115) to be adequately rested before their duty and to plan and use their rest before a duty. However, any operator seeking to impose MTB between a period of leave and your next duty is on a very sticky wicket.

Commuting covers the same, but there can be no question that some current commuting practices of which I think we've probably all seen examples over the years are pretty outrageous. I always used to suggest that if you had to explain your movements over the last 24 hours over the PA to your passengers then if you could do so without all of them wanting to get off your aircraft as a result of what you'd just told them, you were probably on the side of reasonableness. I can't imagine many passengers staying seated to fly with you if you'd just arrived four hours earlier from a commute in from the US. Your colleagues probably wouldn't be too chuffed either. The folk who turned up and demanded first rest in the bunk due to the length of their journey to work were taking the p*** out of their colleagues, I always thought.
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Old 14th Jul 2018, 14:54
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Hi all!
On july the 3rd I had my assessment day 1 and I passed it.
I received a mail stating that no slots were available for day 2 and that they will be in touch with me soon.
Any idea how long could take that?

Regards

Angelo26
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Old 14th Jul 2018, 16:08
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Angelo how is it you were waiting for a day 3 simulator assessment December 2016, and now you're being made to start everything again? I thought you passed then and had entered the pool?!
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Old 14th Jul 2018, 20:45
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Originally Posted by angelo26 View Post
Hi all!
On july the 3rd I had my assessment day 1 and I passed it.
I received a mail stating that no slots were available for day 2 and that they will be in touch with me soon.
Any idea how long could take that?

Regards

Angelo26
I am waiting as well! I passed mine on the 2nd of July!
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Old 14th Jul 2018, 21:06
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Originally Posted by VJW View Post
Angelo how is it you were waiting for a day 3 simulator assessment December 2016, and now you're being made to start everything again? I thought you passed then and had entered the pool?!
Hi!
Unfortunately i didn't passed the sim assessment and yes I have to do everything from the beginning.

Regards

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Old 14th Jul 2018, 23:25
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Result day 1

Originally Posted by angelo26 View Post
Hi all!
On july the 3rd I had my assessment day 1 and I passed it.
I received a mail stating that no slots were available for day 2 and that they will be in touch with me soon.
Any idea how long could take that?

Regards

Angelo26
Hi gents!

Recently completed my day 1 assessment. Does anyone know when youíll get the result?

Cheers!
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Old 15th Jul 2018, 20:58
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Hi All,

any recommendations on where to stay around lhr b&b, guest houses and so on for the ground school of the training.

cheers
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Old 16th Jul 2018, 08:52
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Hi Mizar,

I would reccomend the Premier Inn at terminal 4. It's the most convenient option imo. Get yourself a business account and the standby rate is £51,-. If you're lucky and book early you can get the non-flexible rate for £29,- (that's not via the business website). It's a 20 min walk to the training centre or 5 mins by car/bus. Rooms on 2nd and 3rd floor have fridges and irons.
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Old 16th Jul 2018, 16:59
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I think Mizar will need his/her BA e-mail account to be up and running before he can get a business account..and Iíd second the advice about checking the general public rates before making a business booking.

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Old 16th Jul 2018, 20:27
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Hi,

Does anyone know if on joining BA you are issued a company flight/nav bag?

Cheers
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Old 16th Jul 2018, 21:46
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Originally Posted by fullhouse View Post
Hi,

Does anyone know if on joining BA you are issued a company flight/nav bag?

Cheers
Not now as far as Iím aware (I did get given a plastic one 28 years ago, so standards are slipping )

You do get a company iPad, which is much lighter considering the amount of charts it contains...
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Old 17th Jul 2018, 05:40
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Has anyone been invited for a sim assessment? Please send me a PM if so.
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Old 17th Jul 2018, 11:24
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Originally Posted by fullhouse View Post
Hi,

Does anyone know if on joining BA you are issued a company flight/nav bag?
Iíll admit for some reason that comment made me chuckle....

As has been said you get issued an iPad and a uniform, luggage etc is down to the individual...


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Old 18th Jul 2018, 06:18
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Originally Posted by wiggy View Post


Iíll admit for some reason that comment made me chuckle....

As has been said you get issued an iPad and a uniform, luggage etc is down to the individual...

you can claim tax back on flight cases as it's a business expense. Same with any active noise reduction headphones for use whilst deadheading or in augmented rest. Sun glasses too.

Speak to.your Balpa rep.
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Old 18th Jul 2018, 10:49
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VinRouge, I think that's covered by the BALPA negotiated FREA (Fixed Rate Expense Allowance) - no individual items will be claimable. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 18th Jul 2018, 10:54
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https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-man...anual/eim50051

(BA provide noise cancelling headsets on the flight deck)

As far as flight cases and HMRC are concerned, like overstress I've always thought that was covered by the FREA : "the industry wide FRE for airline pilots, and other flight deck crew (see EIM50052) does not include anything for items of normal luggage, although the pilot’s flight case is included"... that's from:

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-man...anual/eim50055
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 12:31
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Group assessment & Interview

Iíve just booked in for the group and interview stage in August.

Does anyone have any examples of questions or group situations, please?

PMs greatly appreciated
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 16:32
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Hi all,
I have just booked stage 2.

P.s.
I have a UK CAA issued licence but I want to renew my type rating in Italy with an Italian SFE.
Do you know what forms and what documents will be requested by the UK CAA.

Sorry for the Offtopic.

Regards,

Angelo26
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 14:21
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The BA website list all their salaries as 'Competitive' which makes it hard to try and make any sort of judgement on when deciding to move there from another airline.

Does anyone know what the Year 1 DEP FO (probably LGW) salary is? PilotJobsNetwork says £58,864 but not entirely sure how accurate this is.
TIA
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 14:38
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Originally Posted by GetTheQRH View Post
The BA website list all their salaries as 'Competitive' which makes it hard to try and make any sort of judgement on when deciding to move there from another airline.

Does anyone know what the Year 1 DEP FO (probably LGW) salary is? PilotJobsNetwork says £58,864 but not entirely sure how accurate this is.
TIA
That figure is very accurate.
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