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Old 1st May 2016, 22:27
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Won't be happening for much longer, if at all. The 757 sim has recently been sold and is in the process of going.
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Old 1st May 2016, 23:18
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What are the proportion of recent fleet type allocations for new hires? What percentage are getting A380, A320, 777, 787 and 744?

Also, when are you expecting the first A350 on property?
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Old 2nd May 2016, 14:44
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DEP A350, what are the chances of that happening ....
Next seat/type bid window isn't currently open, will be in July (for one month) - that's when there might be the first signs of internal bids for the type being available.

In service dates vary dependent on source, but AFAIK first A350 to BA isn't due until late '17 at very the earliest.

Traditionally and for practical reasons the early courses on a new type are populated by existing trainers from within BA (both P1 and P2).

Last edited by wiggy; 3rd May 2016 at 17:19. Reason: Adding wriggle room.
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Old 3rd May 2016, 16:00
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Latest info on the 350 is sim arriving Jan 2018 and first frame Q3 2018. I doubt we will see any bid until next year.
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Old 4th May 2016, 13:06
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Hi all. Hoping someone can supply a few examples of a junior 787 roster. A brief outline of the type rating timeframe would also be very useful.

Feel free to pm.

Thanks
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Old 5th May 2016, 03:33
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Fishing

Anyone been fished from the pool this week? Waiting time and fleet?
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Old 5th May 2016, 07:13
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Does anyone know what the actual minimum hours are for Direct Entry is? The website previously stated 3000h and from memory a requirement for something like Boeing or Airbus time but that has since been removed and now just says the programme is for "experienced pilots". Any advice on minimums would be helpful.

Thanks
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Old 5th May 2016, 07:27
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Sim assessment

Hi all,

Had the day 3 sim assessment over 2 weeks ago now but still not heard anything. Does anyone know how long to wait before a reply?

Many thanks
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Old 5th May 2016, 09:04
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Hey did mine on a Saturday and found out on the Wednesday late afternoon. I thinks it's a bit random. People go for weeks without hearing then get a yes. Not sure of the internal workings! Keeping my fingers crossed for you! :-)

Originally Posted by bobbyboblington View Post
Hi all,

Had the day 3 sim assessment over 2 weeks ago now but still not heard anything. Does anyone know how long to wait before a reply?

Many thanks
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Old 5th May 2016, 09:51
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Originally Posted by flyer101 View Post
Hey did mine on a Saturday and found out on the Wednesday late afternoon. I thinks it's a bit random. People go for weeks without hearing then get a yes. Not sure of the internal workings! Keeping my fingers crossed for you! :-)
You're a gentleman, thanks
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Old 5th May 2016, 22:54
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Hello chaps, just done day 1 of assessment for DE long haul.
Has anyone got the pay scale for FO's please, I can't trawl through 148 pages at this time of night!!
Many thanks,
Stu
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Old 6th May 2016, 00:54
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They'll show you the most up-to-date version at Day 2 assessments as part of the lunch break-out presentation.
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Old 6th May 2016, 08:09
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Would a BA Longhaul F/O take home close to what an EZY or RYR Captain does?
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Old 6th May 2016, 09:02
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With some of the recent junior Airbus commands at LHR (pp2!!!), you will now find EZ and RYR pay their skippers considerably more than BA pay their own.
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Old 6th May 2016, 09:15
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Day 1 FO L/H takes home about 4000 net, I've been here just over a year and have got a bit more of a grasp of bidline and take home 4000-4500 most months now, couple of months have hit ~4800.
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Old 6th May 2016, 10:10
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Thanks HPbleed, about what I thought. Just wanted to see a table to give me an idea of about 10 years hence.
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Old 6th May 2016, 10:21
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Thankyou all for the info.
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Old 6th May 2016, 10:39
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Originally Posted by VJW View Post
No way- not a day 1 BA FO. I've a friend in BA for 8 years on the 787 making about 5900
Net he said. That's about what a EZY/RYR 'takes home'. Course it doesn't included the added extras for which there aren't many/any with RYR at least.

Bottom line don't expect a higher pay leaving LHS in Easy or RYR to go BA RHS.
That's almost 120,000 gross assuming he pays into the pension.
That's not bad for an 8 year FO which is what I presume he is with that length of service.

Is that still realistic for a new joiner??
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Old 6th May 2016, 11:28
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Unless I'm mistaken he's a FO and also a TRE... Don't duppose every FO makes that, but the option is there I presume.
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Old 6th May 2016, 12:35
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I also imagine that they are on the 25-point pay scale, not the 35-point system which applies to new joiners. So the comparable rise for an pp8 LH FO would be about two-thirds the amount over 8 years. Not taking in to account the TRE increment which I imagine wouldn't have changed.

Not BA, so I'm sure somebody will be along to refine my calculations shortly
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