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Old 28th Oct 2015, 12:15
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Hi all,

Recruitment is continuing for the foreseeable future (although that may only be about 24 hours) onto the 767. This is because there is spare training capacity on the fleet and it allows those at the top of the fleet list to bid off.

The discussion of long haul hours for the 767 may be moot as we are down to only 3 long haul hulls as of December. The last LH 767 is planned to retire around Jul/Aug next year so it will become a short haul only fleet.

The 767 fleet is due to be retired entirely in mid to late 2018 although there are always rumours that it may go much sooner or last much longer. Be aware that if you come to the 767 and it folds before your 5 year engagement freeze is up you will be BA's bitch, to do with as they please. In all probability that may well mean being directed to the 320.

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Old 28th Oct 2015, 12:42
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Thanks binsleepen, has the issue of offers/start dates now officially recommenced? (Interested hold pooler who would absolutely love a crack at the 767, short haul or otherwise).

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Old 28th Oct 2015, 15:20
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Join Date: Jan 2014
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Anyone know of any pending roadshows in the middle east or Hong Kong?
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Old 28th Oct 2015, 17:57
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Any DEP on the 380
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Old 28th Oct 2015, 21:03
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I suppose if you're 'stuck' on the 'Bus you may as well be 'stuck' in the LHS.

There is always a reason when Commands go so junior. You will be stuck on SH for a very long time and at the bottom of the seniority list! Picking up every poorly constructed blind line going! Consider the fact that a lot of the Captains from Gatwick on the initial run of Airbii there went back to the RHS of LH!

Says something doesn't it!
Sigh.

I heard that every day when I was a TLH at LHR. "You won't have any control, Carmen screws everyone" "Gatwick will go under and you'll all be out of a job" etc etc, blah blah. I was just answering the question without adding an opinion, but seeing as you had one...

Personally I quite like being at home every night, with pretty much every weekend off. And I'm not remotely the most senior man there. I was at home before on-blocks time the other day. If you live close and it suits you, it's the best kept secret in BA!

You big-jet boys can keep your toys and your night time atlantic crossings, I'm happy as larry here.
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Old 29th Oct 2015, 16:51
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Up!
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Sim to job offer

Hello all,

just wondering how long it took BA to get back to people after completing the sim?

Neither me nor my Sim buddy have heard anything nearly 2 weeks later!

Cheers
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Old 29th Oct 2015, 19:01
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Picking up every poorly constructed blind line going!
Oops, I was talking about LHR, my bad.

Personally I think, for the Junior Captain, that Carmen is far, far better at balancing work/leave than the seniority 'fest' that is Bid Line. Junior skippers at LHR get screwed every time with the 'it'll be your turn soon' mentality when we have a stagnant upper echelon workforce.

The pay point capping is a relic from the past that needs to be addressed but you've got no chance of that with the ivory tower 'everybody must meet their individual cuts' mentality.

I like operating out of Gatwick, shame the management have screwed the crews though.
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Old 29th Oct 2015, 22:09
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People joining now will have a pay cap at PP24(ish) at LGW. Plenty of time to get senior on some other fleet if they so desire.
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Old 30th Oct 2015, 09:24
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Is BA SH realistically commutable on a full time contract? If not, how amenable are BA to offering part-time options?
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Old 30th Oct 2015, 12:19
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It depends on where you want to commute from
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Old 30th Oct 2015, 13:38
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Either Edinburgh or Glasgow would work.
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Old 31st Oct 2015, 08:49
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Commuting from Scotland can be made to work, though it can be hard work when junior. Many commute from both GLA and EDI for SH but you will spend a fair amount of time in hotels etc down in London while on reserve or for an early start etc. Remember that there is no staff travel for the first 6 months as well. Many pilots rent somewhere local for the first year or so to settle in and see how it could work for them.
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Old 31st Oct 2015, 15:30
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hi guys, any rumours doing the rounds if the current intake will extend beyond december 1st ? I know the closing for now is Nov 1st but historically they generally extend...any info anyone ?
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Old 1st Nov 2015, 13:06
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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SIM Assessments

Hello all, is anyone aware of what's happening behind the scenes with regards to SIM assessments? I passed Day 2 back in September and was told to keep an eye on the website for SIM assessment availability but despite checking everyday there has been nothing apart from a couple of cancellations which I was beaten to. When I contacted recruitment (end Sep) I was told Nov slots would be released imminently.
Would I be right in guessing the remainder of us in purgatory will be SIM checked along with the guys and girls going through the latest DEP recruitment campaign?
Any info would be appreciated - the wait is killing me !!
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Old 2nd Nov 2015, 10:12
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Slots were released end of September for November. They went very quickly! I have mine end of November. I'd call the pilot recruitment team and ask for an update, that's what I did! They are very helpful.

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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 09:46
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Any more inside information on what is going on? We were told by recruitment that allocation of non-rated DEP courses would have started by this week.

Are issues with internal bids holding things up? Any rumours for hold poolers to feed off gratefully received!
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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 09:57
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Are issues with internal bids holding things up?
Results of internal bids still not released (that's a definite)

Possibility of a problem because of a shortfall of internal bidders for short haul commands....(that's a strong rumour)


Any rumours for hold poolers to feed off gratefully received!
You're welcome
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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 10:01
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There are certainly issues with internal bids. Or more accurately the system (Crystal) that allocates courses to bidders. Many variables need to be input, such as the network plan, and training capacity, to name but two. Assumptions also need to be made such as rates of sickness, which are not easily predictable as they have grown rapidly recently. EASA rostering!? Retirements 'should' recommence in less than 12 months. Other factors such as part time availability/take up need to be considered. Finally, both type and engagement freezes are currently being waived as there are insufficient internal bidders for certain positions. Some of those positions may surprise you?

It's a pretty complex and fluid picture at the moment, that will definitely mean that in a few years time we will have another pilot surplus.
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Old 3rd Nov 2015, 13:23
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Is RHS on "the whale" one of those?
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Old 4th Nov 2015, 12:14
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Very unlikely.
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