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Old 3rd Apr 2012, 18:48
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Hey kbill, well done on getting through, may I ask if your 73 or 75? Ive been in the pool since christmas as a 73 f/o...I'm hoping for a start this year to....fingers crossed for 'May' time maybe...

all the best
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 11:02
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The chaotic shambles that is the recruitment system gives you a pretty good idea of what lies inside the company. However, for those of you naive/stupid/ desperate enough (delete as applicable) to want to find out the hard way, don't worry as the attrition levels are so high they'll always need more.
I don't often use PPRuNe, but just happened to have a browse at this thread as I'm a Capt with Jet2, and find your comments a little confusing!!!

I've been with Jet2 for several years and can not complain too much about it. I've worked for other airlines, and they are all pretty similar. They all have their faults and all are up against it in these testing times.

Jet2 as an employer are young, probably some 10years behind most, that said they are trying and I'm hopeful, as many are, the airline will be the preferred choice for many - especially those with desires to live close to home and progress quickly. It won't suit everyone, and for those who have become accustomed to fluffy terms and conditions - well, don't bother - it may be some time before we have them!!!

I can only take from your post you have had a bad experience with Jet2, that said, most bad experiences usually go hand in hand with some self blame, so if things didn't work out for you for whatever reasons, it doesn't mean to say it will be the same for others.

To summerise - Jet2 are in their infancy and with that goes a steep learning curve, yes HR and other departments probably haven't got it quiet right, but every year we are seeing a large influx of experience from other airlines, a great deal of talented people who will I'm sure drive the company forward to in my opinion one of the largest most succesful lowco carriers in the UK.

Please don't be put off by negative posts, if you look at all the airlines there are always negatives - there has to be as you can't please everyone!!

Good Luck

ps - Attrition levels are now pretty low compared to other carriers, as those who had desires to fly out of the desert seem to have all gone!!! Recruitment levels are so high as we are expanding and increasing our fleet sizes

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Old 4th Apr 2012, 13:42
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When exactly are Jet2 going to stop peddling the "we're in our infancy/ give us time to sort things out" routine. As a commercial operation they originally began in 1978, and even in their current form have been operating for NINE years. Now I've got kids and from memory they stopped being infants way before they reached nine.

How many heads of training have you had in the last 5 years? How many ops directors? How many chief pilots? HR directors? While I'm asking and as your North West based.....how many base captains at MAN in the last 3 years.......let me help you with that one....the answer is FOUR! with the latest having a command for less than three seasons.

But not to worry the company's an infant and it'll all be sorted......at some time in the future.
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 14:33
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Yes Jet12345678,

You are almost correct in your synopsis of areas to be concerned about, but as I said it is not unique to Jet2 - people swap and change, some more than others.

My guess is Jet2 was your first company and you have moved on to bigger and better things - good for you, but please don't come on here rubbishing one of the few loco's in the UK to be actually recruiting pilots and giving a wage rise!

I've been flying for Jet2 for 6 years now and have had very few complaints. If you were unlucky enough to be someone who has had to move base or didn't quiet make the cut for command then I understand your bitterness, but I ask again, please don't taint everyone with your misfortunes or experiences as I can honestly say you are in the minority as most people here enjoy the job, especially the people we work with!

For what it's worth the current management team is by far the best we have ever had, and from what I and most others can fathom have no desires to leave their current posts soon.......

Did you jump too soon
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 15:00
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Endofeng- you're partly right in your assessment of my career. The correct part is that I left for a better place.....much better. However it was the combination of blind sycophants, infighting, total lack of career structure, and management bullying that lead to my bid for freedom.

I notice that you haven't posted any answers regarding the revolving door that is Jet2 management. I guess you must have run out of fingers!

Just wondering, as Jet2 wasn't my first airline which meant I had a yardstick with which to compare it, how many previous companies have you flown for? I only ask as in my experience those most willing to volunteer their unconditional support had only ever worked for Jet2/ channex.
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 15:02
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How many ... HR Directors ... have you had in the last 5 years?
Only two, and I think just about everybody agreed that she really had to go!
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 17:39
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I notice that you haven't posted any answers regarding the revolving door that is Jet2 management. I guess you must have run out of fingers!

Just wondering, as Jet2 wasn't my first airline which meant I had a yardstick with which to compare it, how many previous companies have you flown for? I only ask as in my experience those most willing to volunteer their unconditional support had only ever worked for Jet2/ channex.
I'm not sure what you mean re answers regarding revolving door. As I've said it isn't for everyone, and if you are referring to Training Mangers etc....well, yes there have been a few, but at the moment as I said in my previous post there now seems to be a stable Management structure who are well respected by ALL the pilots - good news for us who have stuck it out and now reaping the rewards ( 9% payrise for Capts this year!!).....

Thanks for asking about my previous career, if I was wrong with yours it seems your assumptions are too, I've worked for other airlines including loco operations and as I keep saying they are ALL the same . There is never complete harmony, people will always want more/moan and inevitably move on. For the vast majority of pilots at Jet2 they joined, stayed, grew with the company as it ticks the boxes for them ie base, rank t's and c's etc.......

My only concern is we turn into a training organisation for new F/O's who join us for a few years to gain jet experience/hours then leave, not that I'm suggesting you did that!!!
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Old 4th Apr 2012, 18:11
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Respected management by all pilots?? dont make me laugh! I left that dreadful company for a much better place too, however i still have many friends there, the Chief pilot (who i believe is about to step down) is and was utterly despised by many and filled most posts with his cronies, the ops director is considered a bumbling clown (when i was in BA blah blah etc). I hear at least you are getting a decent guy with the new Chief pilot though.
Well ok with maybe the exception of one or two

You are correct, a new Chief Pilot took over on the 1st, and is well respected as are the rest of the flying managers now, so things have changed since you left. All looking a little better now even through those rose tinted glasses
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Old 5th Apr 2012, 01:49
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Well I hope your new man kicks the HR department into the North Sea and takes overall charge of the unfathomable and chaotic recruitment selction process.
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Old 7th Apr 2012, 03:44
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NEWSFLASH: All flightdeck generally bitch about their employer, even the two guys who always fly together in PAN AM who look like they have a pretty good deal - I wish I could see a 60's US pilots T&C's updated to reflect inflation, I reckon there would be no need for viagra (disclaimer: I am very virile, the viagra reference was for comic effect ..... OK?).

Jet2 will eclipse TCX this summer in terms of hulls and certainly outlook. Granted they don't have other group airlines servicing additional markets (and in some cases subsidising them). However with that in mind and fewer and fewer qualified TR'd pilots itching to get a job, T&C throughout the whole industry will pick up.

Its maybe testament to the way the company has been run that things in Jet2 are looking so perky, but its also a reason some will use to move on elsewhere. They really are getting to the stage that they claim they are young cheeky upstart any more, they are now an established and significant UK airline.

Consequently they have to start acting like one and a start has been made with union recognition and pay increases this year. Things will improve further but that will be determined by CAPITALIST ECONOMY NEWSFLASH #2: supply and demand - of available aircrew and a healthy supply of passengers wanting to go on city breaks, holidays or business trips.

As for the post holder changes mentioned, the implication, correct me if I'm wrong, is these roles either have an undue level political interference or are simply a stressful poison chalice. However no mention of personal circumstances or other mitigating factors of the post holders and their tenure. While it may serve an agenda to band eyebrow raising figures about it serves no other purpose to emphasise any anger or bitterness held at a previous stage in the development of the company.

NEWSFLASH #3: All airlines are like Marmite to their employees, do I need to add the tagline? Alternative employment will always be pursued for a multitude of reasons whither it be salary, desire to fly bigger planes further, longhaul layovers, geography, company ethos, outlook, command time, the list is endless.

If you move on elsewhere and you're happy, is there any need to look over the fence citing issues from x years ago while singing "nah nah nana nahhh"?
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Old 7th Apr 2012, 14:05
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^Well said Sir
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Old 7th Apr 2012, 14:37
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Personally i like it here! Sure there could be improvements, but as the company grows and learns with that will hopefully come maturity.

HR have had a hell of a time with recruitment, not just pilots but loads of cabin crew, engineers, grounds staff etc etc, all needing references , passes issued. I appreciate that its not nice on the people waiting to hear or frustrated with the recruitment process, but give the guys a break, they have limited resources and are working flat out to try and make it work.

To all those that have been successful welcome! I hope you enjoy your time here as much as i have.
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Old 9th Apr 2012, 15:16
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"how many base captains at MAN in the last 3 years.......let me help you with that one....the answer is FOUR! with the latest having a command for less than three seasons."

Jet1234, a couple of points on your comment above, firstly, are you talking about 73 or 75? Or both? I only ask as there are currently two Base captains in MAN, one for each fleet. Secondly, as I know both of these guys in a professional capacity I know you're referring to the 73 BC, and correct me if I'm wrong but I think you're inferring he hasn't got the experience to do the job as he's only had a Command for 3 seasons? Well, it may have escaped your attention but Base Captain is a Management position and as such, the skill set required is not specifically learned sitting in the left hand seat. He's just as good at his job as the 75 BC, and he's a former Chief Pilot and DOF at another UK airline. For your information, regarding any 'lack of continuity', the BC before him was only asked to fill in for the short term after his predecessor moved on to another management role. Things aren't always what they appear.
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Old 28th Apr 2012, 13:35
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Jet2 Recruitment

Hello all,

I'm currently working for another LCC and looking to move to Jet2 over the summer. I've tried searching on here for any info and most of it is from the dark ages.

If anyone has any info regarding flight deck recruitment for experienced type rated crew such as time scales from application submission, interview details to whether anyone was able to get their requested base.

Anything would be much appreciated.
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Old 28th Apr 2012, 18:11
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I look at the website the other day and it seems that recruitment is now closed, they were looking for people a few months ago, but keep on looking, I might be wrong.
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Old 12th May 2012, 09:02
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I am planning ahead and thinking of doing am JOC as I seem to remember there was a requirement for any low houred people who apply to have completed one.

I would like to have that box ticked should jet2 ever advertise for low houred pilots again.

Was there a minimums hours requirement I.e. time spent in the sim for the JOC and do jet2 favour a particular course. Or is it just a matter of completing any JOC.
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Old 12th May 2012, 14:31
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Olicana,

Although they don't specify a minimum time requirement, they don't like the 1 day JOC courses, so look at doing a 2 day one.
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Old 12th May 2012, 15:07
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Thanks nuke. For some reason I was under the impression they required a joc that had at least 20 hours in the sim. Is that not the case?
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Old 12th May 2012, 20:56
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I have been reliably informed that the JOC needs to be a minimum of 16 hours.
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Old 13th May 2012, 06:26
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Thanks ek4457, and are they bothered what type of jet you do it in?
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